Post PC My Ass, Continued: Gaming Hardware Sales To Hit $23.6 Billion In 2012

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livebriand

Yep, Post PC my ass. Does anyone actually take it seriously?

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jonnyohio

No

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JohnP

Not if they keep running out of parts. 1st you could not get your hands on a GTX680. Now the i7-3770K is out of stock on Newegg, Amazon, and TigerDirect. That didn't take long.
EDIT: Cripes, I just found out that they ran out on 4/29 for Newegg and TigerDirect, THE DAY BEFORE the official launch. I am lucky to get mine.

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aerotive

I'm one of the people doing the "super console" thing, just ordered a bunch of parts for one. But that's been a trend in the past too, whenever we're at the end of a console cycle.

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Mortal_M

lol, spam replying to spam

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jonnyohio

Never thought I'd live to see the day lol

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Bullwinkle J Moose

The "Personal" Computer is Going Bye Bye!

You will be locked and chained to your computer with one of the many new Operating Systems that prevent you from doing what YOU want to do on YOUR computer

DRM was just the beginning!

In 2012, you get to choose the Gov't sponsored spyware platform of your choice, to use as we see fit

No more XP drivers for your new motherboards
No more XP compatible hard drives
No more XP compatible software
No more XP-like behavior such as stopping the Gov't from coming through the back doors

These new systems are just what the Gov't ordered!

POST PC is Right....

See you in Hell

....or maybe you diddn't understand what "Personal" meant in Personal Computer?

It's over Dude!

That's not YOUR computer anymore!

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Engelsstaub

Jesus wept.

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Valor958

Hellraiser quote FTW.

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Engelsstaub

Post-PC Era: A time when people no longer need the desktop workstation to do ALL of the things they needed it for in the "PC Era." Many now use "Post-PC devices," such as smartphones and tablets, to accomplish tasks that were once limited to the aforementioned workstations.

Post-PC DOES NOT mean, nor was it ever intended to even allude to, a time when PCs are dead and useless.

You don't even need a course in Latin to get what "post" means. Judging by everyone's continued ignorance or willful disregard, perhaps bringing those classes back into schools would be beneficial. (...maybe not. Some people just define shit the way they want to, perhaps to fit some ridiculous dogmatic agenda.)

I think the fact that the originator of this term continued building "workstations" (or personal computers,) as does his company still, attests to the fact that THEY DIDN"T F___ING MEAN WHAT CERTAIN PEOPLE KEEP WANTING POST-PC TO MEAN. Or?

From Dictionary.com:

post- 
a prefix, meaning “behind,” “after,” “later,” “subsequent to,” “posterior to,” occurring originally in loanwords from Latin ( postscript ), but now used freely in the formation of compound words ( post-Elizabethan; postfix; postgraduate; postorbital ).

NOTICE this definition makes no allusion to "scripts, "graduates," etc. being rendered obsolete or ceasing to exist.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Satan RAWR'd

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jonnyohio

Regardless of definitions, there have been claims that the desktop pc is going to be obsolete soon because of tablets, smartphones, and console gaming units. But thanks for the definition though.

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Valor958

Though you are technically, and literally correct, you know that most people don't use MOST of the words in everyday language how they are actually defined for use. It's sad we can't expect more from those in the public eye (reporters, celebrities, news in general), but that's just the state of the nation right now.
For how they intend it to be used, as in PC's no longer being viable for anything... we are no where near there yet. PCs just have too much more power to offer that many people still want/need. Most people would be fine with just a smart phone for; calculator, email, basic internet, music, directions, googling things they're too dumb to remember from school.. etc etc.
Most people don't even know that words have an actual specific meaning, and just make things up as they go. Grammar and effective wordplay are a lost art.. thank god for the British, they've still got it.

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jonnyohio

My son's friends come over to our house and play games. They have an Xbox and a lot of games, and so does my son. However the Xbox tends to sit and the computers get a good work out a couple times a week. Post pc era my ass.

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rsaotome

We all know to avoid people who use the term Post-PC, or something to that affect, it helps to have a sh*t eating grin, since after all, we're the ones who know better.

As for me, like many of you, I'm planning my next PC Build, now that IVY Bridge is finally out. My, going on, 3-year build has served me VERY well, but it's time for a full fledged, money is sort of an object, PC build. ^_^

Don't know about any of you, but it feels like an exciting time to be a custom PC builder. :)

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Valor958

I completely agree here, and the funny thing is SOO many people still think it's special to be able to put a computer together. I compare it to a paint by numbers set... things can only go in one spot, just follow directions. If you have to force it... you're doing it wrong lol.

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JohnP

http://jonpeddie.com/download/PC_gaming_hardware_market_report/Total-PC-Gaming-Hardware-Market-TOC-Exec-sum.pdf
For Enthusiast PC:
http://jonpeddie.com/download/PC_gaming_hardware_market_report/The-Enthusiast-PC-Gaming-Market-TOC-Exec-sum.pdf
Enthusiast in North America last year was around $4 Billion.

No paywall for me. These PDF have charts that breaks down the sales by region.

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gothliciouz

yeah! just dropped $500 on new vid card an more ram.

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goodtime

I just want to know if this figure is worldwide or just the US

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JohnP

Worldwide, Its about 30% each for North America, Western Europe, And Asia.

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goodtime

A friend of mine once bought skyrim for the 360. Later, he came to my house to compare the graphics on that vs. skyrim on a radeon 5670.
Post PC my ass.

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noobstix

Unless you can BT on a 360 or PS3, "Post PC my ass" indeed. Last time I checked, uTorrent never came out on the 360 or PS3. Oh, and I guess the Gamebryo console only works on PCs which means that we PC gamers can "cheat" our way out of Bethesda's limitless glitches. Also, I think game trainers need to detect a game's .exe file and I believe the buttons to press on the trainers are CTRL/ALT/SHIFT + 1, F1, etc. not Up, Down, Up, B, Y, Down, Right...and so on. Probably the only real advantage consoles have over PCs is that you don't need Origin or Steam to play your games.

My PC by today's costs for the parts I have cost less than either a 360 or PS3 (the only up to date parts I have are CPU and GPU since everything else is being re-used).

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TheMiddleman

I'd like to see a tablet rip a DVD/Bluray and convert it to any format I want in 20 minutes or less, all while streaming HD Netflix movies AND running Starcraft 2 or The Old Republic at max settings like my home built i7-3700k watercooled rig can.

Post-PC my ass, indeed.

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HeartBurnKid

I'll be contributing to this figure in the near future too. I have my own "super console" to build.

PC gaming will not die. Ever. Not as long as there's one person looking to code a game without having to pay out big bucks for dev kits and app store accounts.

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Valor958

Don't forget though, those same people do have to pay for a license for whatever engines they want to use for their games, unless they write their own. I completely see your point though. There ARE benefits to console gaming, but I lean towards PC having more benefits for developers. Develop it for PC, set medium graphics setting as the standard for your console ports... done. No one will know the better.

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USraging

i am glade to contribute to the sales:p its more of a addiction for me than anything:P i want better performance and faster speed. i wont be happy tell i can pull up to work riding my full tower! well guess i got a little carried away... anyways i knew post pc was a myth, kinda like david hasselhoff's singing career.

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Morete

Plus all of the past, present and future FTP/PTW MMO-RPG/FPS games that are of course...PC exclusives, force consolers, tableters and smartphoners to buy a PC if they want to play. They have no choice.
Although I prefer purchasing games that are on a disk for use in a PC, the bright side of FTP/PTW is that it keeps the PC popular and in demand.

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JohnP

You pointing your finger at ME, Brad? OK, I admit that I have spent more this year on computer gear than I paid in taxes, a wanton disregard of fiscal responsibility. But I can't help it! Just thinking about Ivy Bridge and Kepler and big ass monitors at night...
My sister says that men brains light up the in FMRI in the same places when they buy new tools as they do for sex. Its in our genes dammit.

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Valor958

This will be the evidence I use when my pants get sticky after browsing Newegg for a few hours after a new generation of parts is released... my wife always gives me mean looks >.<

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kixofmyg0t

"OK, I admit that I have spent more this year on computer gear than I paid in taxes"

Yeah you don't brag AT ALL do you?

"Just thinking about Ivy Bridge and Kepler"

You really need your testosterone levels checked. As we get older our levels drop, I suspect yours is around 40.

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TheMiddleman

Did she mention women's brains respond the same way to Macy's?

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GuavaSauce

thats great that the hardware sales are booming. but really, what does it cost to produce some of these items? is the price we are gouged for hardware really required? is any of this being put towards any development of decent games to play on these systems? or research on why every buggy driver/technology requires a clean install of windows to fix? BF3 was cool......was. i still play it, but i, for one, am becoming very disillusioned.

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tweeve

the actual cost to produce a GPU or CPU is fairly low once the machines are tooled to produce them, its the years and countless hours of research in how to design a modern CPU and GPU that takes money, not to mention the tooling it takes for the fabs if they have to retool for the next generation of chips.

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I Jedi

There are other uses for a GPU other than simply playing video games. An example would be mining Bitcoins or folding. I don't know if this is what you were asking, but I just wanted to give reasoning to why GPUs are doing great, especially now with new uses for them coming out and being used more and more. If you asked me five years ago what a GPU did, I would say it displayed a picture and played games, but I would have been wrong.

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Valor958

Don't forget some supercomputers are using GPU arrays now as well. There is a lot of overhead years in advance of any generation of electronics. Plus the cost of retooling as needed. The cost is high, but you're paying in advance for next years shiny new toy. Plus, we've paid these rates for over a decade at least, so the industry has no compelling reason to change. Costs are only increasing on the R&D side as we get nearer and nearer to the threshhold of what current technology is capable of. Think of the retooling and research needed to change to silicene or graphene composites once they're ready for commercial use. I see prices jumping $100 per big item for at least a few years. After that I see them being cheaper since they're supposed to be anyways.

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I Jedi

Yeah, critics can kiss my technical ass, too. I just bought a new Ivy Bridge Core i7-3770, 1866 DDR3 RAM, ATI Gigabyte 7970 and finally a Asus Sabertooth Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77...

So kiss my skinny ass, console critics.

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