The Pirate Bay Gets a New Host - The Pirate Party

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Mighty BOB!

Go Sweden!

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Xerties

Worst lolcat ever, guys.

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snapple00

I agree. That one kind of made me embarrassed for whoever made it. 

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Overclockedx86

I agree with many of the points lurker has made.  Pirate Bay has certainly defied and even mocked the biggest names in entertainment and media.  This was done after their lawyers send half-assed C&D letters with no legal merit.  Bittorrent is an excellent p2p resource when used lawfully.  I also agree with PawBear that it is killing PC gaming.  At its core, the Pirate Bay is a search engine.  I mean, I know shutting down PB won't turn us into China, but I'd rather they find another way to thwart piracy than shutting down search.  Why not go after those that upload the content?  I hear of Ms Thomas and others that download illegal content and get sued for ridiculous amounts, but nothing of those same people that upload countless dvd or movie screenings every month.  If you let those that upload content know there are serious consequences, wouldn't that dry up the pirating well?

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kris79

TPB folks have achieved what almost no one has done since Robbin Hood. I
don't believe that it's the rich folks who pirate. I pay for all my
software so don't preach at me. Nevertheless, I laud their rebel stand
and cheer when they stick another defiant finger in the sheriff's eye.
And if any US soldier overseas wants to pirate anything - good on em'.
They should be given whatever they want for free anyway. Although, it's probably sad
to think that some poor recording magnate might not be able to afford a
new mistress back in the States if too many people don't download a 60 year old song that he owns the rights to.  I sympathize. Boo hoo! Gotta go -
getting all choked up now.

 

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lurker

I don't think running a torrent site is wrong, the guilt lies with the seeders & leechers, but the Pirate Bay crew are certainly guilty of putting some very inflammatory statements out there regarding their views on copyright holders. They seemed to revel in their bad boy status and possibly only made "the man" even more determined to shut them down. I do enjoy the constant cat & mouse game but by the time they do close down (or if they close down) it won't have affected illegal downloading one single bit.

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whynotout

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PawBear

 They're clearly aiding the distribution of copywrited material.  There's nothing innocent about what they're doing and they know it.  This discussion goes on time and again.  I'm not making any excuses for them.  Anyone supporting their actions should not cry about pc gaming going down the tubes.  This is probably the best way to pirate software.

     *** "Either we conform the Truth to our desires or we conform our desires to the Truth." ***

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vig1lant3

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Search engines don't pirate copyrighted material, people pirate copyrighted material.

Stop blaming the tools and apply general philosohphical principles to understand that not everybody adheres to a strict moral code.  Just because somebody shoplifts, you don't close the store.  You hold the shoplifter accountable for his or her actions individually.

And how exactly do you know the best way to pirate software?

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snapple00

Any more random analogies that don't really apply?

Try to think of one that involves a horse, the sun, and a space ship. I need a good laugh. 

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aviaggio

The problem is that the MPAA and RIAA have persuaded courts to see it like this:

Guns aren't illegal. But if I give you a gun knowing you're going to kill someone, then I'm guilty of conspiracy because I knew of your intent to commit a crime. So while TPB doesn't actually commit copyright infringement they are knowingly providing the tools for others to do so.

I'm not saying I agree with that premise, but that's how it's being pushed in the courts. 

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FuriousDre

That picture is hilarious! I don't condone piracy and I think TPB is perfectly fine with what they're doing. THey provide a service where people can host any torrent regardless of its content. Unfortunately it's used for infringement 90% of the time.

 

Oh well. If  that was against the law you might aswell sue Google too. It can aid a lot of illegal things :O 

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HockeytownWax

bikerbub .. i too am on comcast and if you use the right torrent client, adding and deleting trackers is easy. 

the 4 that are the fastest for me are:

http://denis.stalker.h3q.com:6969/announce

http://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80/announce

http://tracker.istole.it:80/announce

http://tracker.publicbt.com/announce

TPB (along with all other torrent sites) is quite the grey area because legal language makes it so. Housing the torrent file isn't illegal ... its just a txt file with instructions for the torrent client. Running a website telling you what torrent files are available shouldn't be illegal either because the actual data files are nowhere to be found. I would assume the only people breaking any law would be the 'seeds'. They are the ones with a complete copy of whatever the torrent is for etc.

Why the RIAA and MPAA keep going after websites is beyond me. They claim the owners of the sites are guilty of "intent to distribite" and "enabling others to distribute". What a pile of horseshit. Legal mumbo jumbo that creates the grey areas necessary to file lawsuits and clog up the courts.

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bikerbub

I use Torrentz.Com, because they give you a full list of trackers that i use instead of the TPB trackers. as long as i don't use the TPB trackers, i seem to be fine.

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bikerbub

then it would've been shut down by now. I think that the excuse that they're a "search engine" is strange, because they provide storage for all of the torrent data. Then again i'm not entirely sure how torrents work.

That said, i haven't used TPB in what feels like months, becuase Comcast blocks all TPB trackers, and they throttle mah internetz.

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aviaggio

The issue is that they facilitate copyright infringement by hosting the torrent files, which are essentially shortcuts to the allegedly-infringing material. So yeah, it is a legal grey area.

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Lummoxx

Your ISP facilitates copyright infringement, by providing the connection that enables you to visit TPB.  Dell facilitates by providing computers.  Your job facilitates by providing your income that you use to buy your computers and internet connection...etc.

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mrclean816

Thank you.  Finally someone that makes sense.

I can't believe they even shut down napster.

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