Pirate Bay Founders Find Little Sympathy in Appeals Court
Fredrik Neij, Peter Sunde, and Carl Lundstrom -- the three men responsible for The Pirate Bay -- were again found guilty of copyright violations, this time by the Svea Appeals Court, the Associated Press reports.
The appeals court did reduce their prison sentences from one year each down to 10 months, however the reduced sentences come at a cost. Instead of owing $4.5 million in damages, as assessed by the lower court, the appeals court raised the amount to $6.5 million.
The three men, along with Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, who didn't appear in the appeals court hearing because of an illness, have maintained that they're innocent because TBP doesn't host any copyrighted material.
It's not clear whether they will seek another appeal.
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nightfly
July 22, 2011 at 9:09pm
Do you really think anyone feels sorry for you while you're ripping all of us off on a regular basis? You've been selling CD's, tapes and albums with filler material for >40 years now. Movies that sell here on DVD for $20+ sell for a fraction of that in markets where you have to compete with pirates, so that tells us what it really costs to make them. Software giants like Microsoft let their products 'expire' so you have to buy new ones.
If you make a good product, and support it, people will support you. If you make crap, and sell it to us at an inflated price, the population will do everything it can to rip you off in return. Is that any real surprise?
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Zachary K.
November 26, 2010 at 8:16pm
send em to jail and replace the site with a big list of people hurt and put out of business by piracy, now that's justice!
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savage4naves
November 26, 2010 at 5:53pm
The Pirate Bay still posts new software and movies...it's like my one-stop online store. I hope these guys successfully appeal this and walk off owing nothing.
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TommM
November 26, 2010 at 2:05pm
They used to blatantly and openly scoff, laugh and taunt about how they were untouchable whenever copyright agencies would ask them to cease and desist. They get everything they deserve and more.
Hey MaxPC - you're supposed to be a high-tech website, but you can't keep these idiot sales spammers from posting on your comments sections?
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Danthrax66
November 26, 2010 at 4:38pm
Copyright laws are a bunch of bullshit, and lawsuits are based on damages that can't be proved. If I download a song the most that I should be able to be fined for is the cost of the CD I downloaded, anything beyond that cannot be proven. And as far as I can tell they are still untouchable they could just leave the country and say fuck it but they want a change to this bullshit corporate circus. Plus their site is still up. Basically they are currently losing but the battle is far from over.
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TommM
November 26, 2010 at 7:14pm
...your only concern is that you can continue to steal digital media any time you want and those that invest their time, money, talent and production costs to develop those products can go fuck themselves. Right?
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alabasterdragon
November 28, 2010 at 11:47pm
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mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}So if I used Pirates Bay to download a CD or a movie and then I decide I like it enough and I go out and buy an original copy from the store then what am I guilty of? Is that download really any different than if I borrowed the original from a friend who bought it be I bought it? Most of these, downloading is stealing arguments are complete BS. I remember years ago taking a cassette recorder and recording off the radio. My father has old real-to-reals from the 1950s where he recorded off the radio. The record companies knew damn well that some people would use the recording devices for that. They didn't stalk and hunt down every one of those people and prosecute them! So why was that considered an expectable lost and downloading is not? Yes there are a high number of people doing that now, but the population has grown, and thusly, and according to the records of the recording companies, still about the same percentage of lost that they have always had. I see that as using number most people don't understand to confuse and panic the public into allowing these companies to grossly pursuing greed. All because you thing 10 million copies stolen sound far scarier than 1% does.
How do I get my money back when they rip me off!?! If I buy a movie and it sucks I don't get my money back? I don't get to sue them for wasting my time. Hell even if I don't buy it, say I rent it for $1 and I feel it wasn't worth the dollar. I say that Hollywood and the recording industy might want to re-evaluate their product. They assume that their revenue is down because of piracy. How about, you just have crap and no one is buying it! Nothing says good business model like "The customer is always wrong, we know what they want, even if they are too stupid to realize it." Sounds like the government civial servant motto.
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d4m13n
November 26, 2010 at 10:18pm
What do you care? The record labels and movie studios make more than enough money to bother with internet piracy. It's just their way of penny pinching. Sure the actors and musicians and everyone involved loses *some* money, but wtf do they care. Internet piracy will always be there, it's just in the spotlight now ever since it's gone mainstream. If someone somewhere in the world wants a movie or an album for free, they're going to get it, and share it, because sharing is caring :). Why doesn't the US congress worry about other pressing issues like ACTUAL THEFT, murder, pretty much crime in general. Though I wonder why they are more interested in piracy, oh wait...it's because there's money involved! They should stop worrying about piracy and move on to something worthwhile. Anyway, thats my rant on the matter...
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TommM
November 27, 2010 at 1:41am
...if someone DARES to make some money, then that's your reason to steal stuff. How come you don't steal milk from the grocery store? That dairy farm makes millions off of their milk. How about a car? How come you don't steal a Dodge/Ford/Chevy? They're also millionaires. OH...maybe it's because of the anonimity of prosecution from the Internet that you can steal at will that you gives you the chickenshit excuse that "it's OK because they make plenty of money."
It's time for you thiefs (losers) to come up with better excuses than "I would have never bought it anyway so it's OK for me to steal it," or "it's OK to steal because they make money anyway." I mean seriously - how old are you fools? 12 years old?
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nemgrea
November 27, 2010 at 2:22pm
its interesting that no one seems to care about other forms of copyright such as photocopying music for your kids music classes thats equally as illegal as downloading pirated software! and thats done in public schools!
or copying more than ten percent of a book. i know that many of the people who pirate software do it not beacuse they dont want to pay for it but because many of them cant. i know i dont have $9000 of disposible income to spend on music and media
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Fecal Face
November 27, 2010 at 12:52pm
Pirating is nowhere near the same as stealing: If I stole your CD, you would no longer have your CD. If I pirated your CD, we would now both have that CD.
Comparing piracy to stealing a vehicle is ridiculous.
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carage
November 26, 2010 at 5:44pm
They could pack up and move to a more copyright-infringement friendly environment, say, China or Korea.
Or to some place where copyright law and enforcement is non-existent. Wasn't there a P2P service a few years ago that chose Palestine as their base of operations, because apparently with all the crazy things going on over there, chasing dogital pirates is the least of the authority's concern.
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joeking
November 26, 2010 at 12:08pm
"The three men, along with Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, who didn't appear in the appeals court hearing because of an illness, have maintained that they're innocent because TBP doesn't host any copyrighted material."
Haha, yeah right. BTW, it's TPB not TBP. Proofread much?
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