PC Gaming Alliance: Let's Use Piracy for Fun and Profit

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Dibola

anything coded can be recoded............pc games will always be cracked and hacked.........theres always some guy thats gonna show the pc industry that "lol you thought my ass wouldn't be able to crack it.

games have a weakness ....." files"  these file can be "altered" or reversed engineered....most the time when a game activates it writes some sort of data on your drive......and then you'd just copy it and boom you made a game crack........i think their fighting an already lost battle here.

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atomaweapon

I've just finish reading how far cry 2 will have that activation nonsense. It looked like a bad ass game that I was this close to purchasing, but then renigged because of the activation.

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thegamepro

Uhh...

How is this piracy if the developers are making money from this.  I think it would be a brilliant Idea to legally download a full game for free but with ads just as long as they give us an option to pay to get rid of the ads.  If the ads are in the load screens im fine with that.  Seriously, didn't they just accidently stumble over a new way to market their game.  Give it away for free with ads on bittorrent (so they don't have to pay for bandwidth) but also give us an option to pay without ads.  They'll probably make more money that way.

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Muerte

Your missing the point.  The people who get the intrusive adds are the ones that have already pirated the game.  The people who buy it will get the same passive adds that were going to be there anyhow.

Its actually a pretty good idea if it were implementable.  The whole idea of pirating a game is to be able to use it without people knowing you pirated the game.  So I doubt anything will come of this.

 If they could actually tell the should make the pirates cannon fodder by nerfing their weapons damage or whatever. 

But again, I doubt this is really implementable.

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horzo

If publishers have a reliable way to distinguish between pirated and legit copies of games, why wouldn't they lock the pirated games entirely instead of just increasing ad content?

 

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AntiHero

They do, if you have a pirated version, you are UNABLE to use the online functions, they can't do it any other way, otherwise you'd require an internet connection to play the games single player. Unfair to those who play single player when the internet is under maintenance or while downloading music, movies or updates.

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Velcrow

Going after torrent sites isn't that simple, and certainly not very quick. Servers may be hosted in different countries with different laws. But also don't forget that torrent is just a distribution method. There is plenty of free software on there too. So should the torrent site be responsible for copyrighted data posted by it's users? Or should the user be responsible? Should YouTube be shut down because people post copyrighted material on that site? It's just not that easy. Hell, the torrent isn't even hosting the material, just tracking seeds & leechers.

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samduhman

I say go after the torrent sites. They should be held accountable. They are linking people to stolen goods. There is zero reason why they can't look at their seeds and see that it is a retail copy of whatever game.

I'm sick and tired of seeing the "pirates" topic and how they are ruinning my favorite platform. I pay for all my games and I want PC gaming to flourish since I hate consoles. I say do whatever necessary to take them down.  

 

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Rltyg

As much as I would like to see an alternative to DRM type tactics, I just don't see this as being a viable solution.  Publishers need to start going after the ip addresses of the torrent downlowders.  What I don't understand, and maybe someone here can enlighten me on the subject, is why don't the publishers go after the websites with domain names and shut them down?  I wont go as far as naming these sites, but we all know which ones I am talking about.

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neo1piv14

The torrent sites can't be attacked because they aren't hosting anything illegal. They're a table of contents more than a file host. The people downloading and seeding the files are the only ones hosting the content.

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neo1piv14

How about instead of charging $50 bucks for the software in the store and then having to worry about activation and such, charge $20 bucks for the disc, manual, etc in the store and then you get home, you get online, enter the CD code, pay the other $20 or $30 and create a user name/password. You have to be online the first time you play the game and after that, it caches your credentials and lets you play ad-free. However, if you don't have a username and password to login with, then it floods you with ads. That way, legitimate users don't have to worry about how many activations you get because it's always tied to your username and password. Cached credentials would mean you only had to be online the first time you installed it, and pirates still get their free game: albeit a crappy ad loaded copy.

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orca11

I've never pirated a game, DRM or no (although I do use no-cd cracks on games I own).  This scheme would look to me like the developer endorsing "pirated" copies of the game and making that a legitimate distribution model.  I would actually be more likely to "pirate" a game under this model.

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flomp83

If you show an ad everytime you load a level in a pirated game, wouldn't that be just like clicking on "Read more" here on MaxPC? Seems to be woking out well for MaxPC, right?

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mpcrsc562

the game install disc doesn't even have to install anything resembling a dialer. the instruction manual could include the telephone number of an authentication server and a person could set up a dial up connection to include a username & password (probably the cd key) and -bam!- your in. just a bit longer to actually play your game (waiting for your computer to dial and access the server).

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Wareagle

CD key verifcation seems to work really well, unless it's not a multiplayer game.

Cracked copies of the game are actually better than the 'real' ones: you don't have to deal with CD checks, games that refuse to run if you have Daemon Tools installed, phoning home, etc.

Case in point: http://xkcd.com/488/

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soccer1105

Best idea i think i've ever heard on the topic. however knexkid makes very good points.  A one-time only online acctivation might work.  Every time you install a game for the first time on a computer, you must go online to activate it. I remember when XP first came out, you could call a certain phone numbre to get an activation code if you didn't have internet.  that could still work here.

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dankers

they had a version of far cry with some ads in it, you had to sit through like 1 minute of ads for a free full game
small change if you ask me

actually quite a brilliant idea if you ask me everybody wins

the only problem is WHO WAS PHONE

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That guy type p...

1 minute of ads is overkill for me and others like me that are patience-deprived.

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chaos.13037

I like it, it finally switches the tables and gives pirates a worse product than the paying customer.

Although, the pirates will probably find a way around it and then everyone will be playing the same game which is still better than pirates playing superior DRM free games now.

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knexkid

I think this is a great idea but once again here are your problems:

1. PIRATES WILL FIND A WAY TO GET AROUND THIS AND MAKE THE GAME SEEM LIKE A LEGIT COPY TO NOT RECIEVE ADS (It's hard to face that truth....)

2. The only way you could maybe prevent that would be having the game check online to a server everytime it is launched to see if it has a legit, one of a kind code.  Then you will have people complaining that you must be online to play the game!  

3.  The loop continues.....

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dc10ten

I like how someone is thinking outside the box. Not 100% sure if it will solve problems with pirating, I hope that it would. At least i see one person thinking beyond DRM's answer to piracy.

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Humpfester

Thats just too funny, rofl. What we have here is a comedian in the making.

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b_boy_69_00

I would gladly take a game like far cry 2 chock full of ads for free than pay $60 for the same game with just less ads in them.  If there are going to be ads then it needs to be free no matter what.  Don't make me buy something just to look at advertisements I didn't ask for. 

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Vegan

And what do they do about false positives? Because we all know WGA worked so well.

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Gailim

true, but this plan has too many positives. as long as its not based on something like a no cd crack (which many gamers use for convinience not law breaking) then it could be the solution weve been waiting for

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