OCZ's New SSDs Approach SATA II Speed Limit

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ka0s5150

If you have one of the drives affected with the stuttering issue your almost SOL, its the drive controller thats the problem, OCZ has went with a different controller called indilinx which stuttered at first but released a firmware patch to fix the issue with lower tier consumer drives. But it all lies in the fact that the lowest piece of data you can delete is a cluster, when in fact your data lies within the sector. So as your data is stored on the disk when a file needs to be written to a sector but the cluster doesn't have enough space for it the drive has to hold the cluster in memory , delete the space required then write the data to the drive, those steps alone make your drive crawl as those are seconds were talking about.. not Nano seconds, seconds are a lifetime in computing. Anandtech had a great article on ssd performance issues its long but check it out.

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periodhyphenund...

Unless you can market the 60GB drives for $100 - $150, I'd recommend going back to a 30GB drive that everyone can afford!

OCZ has been very understanding to what the customers want and has done incredible work to bring even the 30GB Vertex to a performance level of the bigger drives but at a price that nobody should complain about.

EVERY SINGLE SSD I buy will be used as a boot drive for my Operating Systems.

Since I do not own any O.S. that requires over 30GB of space for a full install + all my installed software, I think that OCZ and anyone else in the SSD business should pay attention to the $100 - $150 sweet spot for the smallest drive they make and then go up from there.

YES, I want the Fastest SSD available but I don't want to spend for the extra space that will never be used!

All my Drive Backups, Media and Software will be kept on a regular Hard Drive for the foreseeable future so PLEASE keep the Smallest SSD's in the $100 - $150 Range or start selling the 60GB SSD for that price.

Just pretend that the Economy Sucks, and the job market is nearly non-existant when you market these things and you should do Very Well with a $100 SSD for boot drives

Also, I have a question for the SSD Freaks out there..

If you have two older identical SSD's with the Stuttering problem, would you have less stuttering by going to a RAID setup than you would by Leaving one SSD for the O.S. and one for a Media drive?

 

 

 

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dag1992

I could care less about speeds if these don't become affordable within the next year or two, then again wasn't a decent graphics card $400+ and basic ram $100+ just a couple years ago?

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Keith E. Whisman

Hell great high end 3d graphics cards used to cost $200bucks and then they went to $350dollars for the Ultra kinda of card I think the last card to cost $350bucks the the Geforce 4 Ti300 or something like that. Ram has always been expensive.. However like ram video card prices are starting to return to the days of the $350 dollar Ultra high end graphics cards and $500+ reserved for the Dual GPU cards. This is something I can live with.

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ka0s5150

Although Toshiba holds the basic NAND flash patents, another important
player in the intellectual-property game is SanDisk. Acting in a
partnership with Toshiba, SanDisk developed MLC (multi-level cell)
technology, which allows each NAND flash cell to hold two bits of data
rather than one. This means that a chip with MLC technology has twice the
capacity as a similarly priced chip without MLC. Thus, MLC effectively
halves the cost of producing chips with a given capacity.

Because SanDisk holds the patents on MLC, any company that wishes to
be competitive in the NAND flash marketplace must buy licensing from
SanDisk in addition to a license from Toshiba for the fundamental NAND
technology. Neither company has been shy about enforcing its patents
against corporate rivals. Toshiba has recently filed suit against
Hynix, an important Korean semiconductor manufacturer, charging it with
infringement of the basic NAND flash patents. SanDisk has also been
active in litigation over its MLC patents.

Toshiba and Hynix entered into a patent cross-licensing agreement
in August 1996 that included semiconductor products. The companies
started negotiation of an extension of the agreement prior to
its December 31, 2002 expiration. At the time, Toshiba sought
to secure a reasonable fee for access to its patents.

Failure to reach a satisfactory conclusion left Toshiba with no
alternative other than to pursue legal recourse.

So, in Japan, Toshiba filed a suit against Hynix for alleged
infringement of its NAND flash memory patents. Toshiba's suit
in Tokyo seeks damages against Hynix's alleged infringement
of three NAND-related patents. It seeks an injunction against
infringing products.

In the U.S., Toshiba filed a similar suit against Hynix and its
U.S. subsidiaries for infringement of Toshiba's DRAM and NAND
flash memory patents

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darklordjac

yah i wish they were cheap and someone could make them cheap instead of these huge prices

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Keith E. Whisman

I wish a company would come along and manufacture their own nand chips and produce their own SSD drives and sell them with high capacities and low prices and just flood the market with them to really upset the SSD market. But I don't see this happening anytime soon.

Paul why is there only a couple of NAND chip makers out there? Are there Patent and License issues keeping others from making NAND chips of their own? 

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