Nvidia: Ion 2 Will be Better than Pine Trail

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MeTo

How long before they do SLI on this thing?

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WildmanCAL

As always, nVidia has to bash Intel because of their own shortcomings.  nVidia used to be a good maker of graphics chips but since they dropped the ball of late, all they can do is bitch & moan about what Intel is doing and how it's not fair.

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Jono

because apparently a year seems like a decade for you. Nvidia is hardly out of the running and ATI is lucky enough to now have a processor company working together under the same banner. Nvidia doesn't have that luxury and has to work around Intel's scheming to eliminate them as competition. Nvidia is a sleeping giant. They now are planning to take on Intel and AMD/ATI. They know what they're up against.

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Caboose

 Yes, because I'm going to be performing video transcoding and editing on an ultra portable/micro system.

 Maybe if I want some video to finish rendering in about 50 years after the 3rd world war, we've finally achieved faster than light travel and the Vulcans have made first contact, I'll use an Ion2 platform for more than watching a youtube video...

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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Jono

Who cares about having all these capabilities on such a small portable device. After all, "640 kb ought to be enough for everybody"

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Evolyptic

Captain's Log, Stardate 63427.6

The ability to play content of higher quality, also known as HD content. And the ability to play more mainstream games makes the Ion 2 extremely useful to the general public. Higher graphics power will also make it easier to carry around a little tablet to do your artwork on and not have to worry that photoshop or gimp is going to crash due to graphic stress.

 

I'm talking to you like you're an idiot because you are. You're complaining about advancements in technology because it advances something smaller then you'd like. I'm normally not one to defend small things but I see netbooks as a system that could become very useful if it had the right kind of power in it. Think about it. In the future we'll have little tiny laptops that rival the power of the 'current' main computer. It's time to give it up Caboose. Not all rigs have to be as thick as a tree, and as tall as your bed frame. You may be saying "but this isn't a rig, its a netbook!" Well, hook that netbook to an external monitor and what do you have. A rig. You just have a portable one.

 

Also, get off the Vulcans' dicks.  I know it says to go where no man has ever but come-on now. They're fictional creature. That would be like me dreaming over animation females, or Felicia Day.

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Caboose

 I apologise if I attempted to be somewhat humourous and failed, but I don't see how transcoding video or video editing will be easily performed on a netbook. Most people don't replace their desktop PC with a netbook. Netbooks have their place in the computing world. I've brought in a number of them in to my workplace and our sales team is using them with much success. I didn't say that it was a bad thing or terrible that it was an advancement in technolog. Those two items right there are still CPU oriented unless the app you're using is designed to use a GPU for the hard stuff. Mobile platforms (laptops, ultra portables, netbooks, and desktop replacements) perform much worse than their desktop counterpart when it comes to dealing with video editing. I don't know of anyone that would choose to do any sort of video editing, even a family home video, on a netbook when a desktop platform is readily available. Speed, capabilities, size (capacity) available on a desktop trump a netbook.

Seeing an IGP that will act as a descrete graphics solution is great, I admit that. And hey, with Asus including optical drives in their netbooks, it's only a matter of time before that DVD drive becomes a Blu-Ray drive, and then you'll have a portable Blu-Ray player plus computer to drag along on trip. Toss in an SSD and a battery with an ultra long life (as battery tech is poised to improve), and you've got a great little package.

However, in my opinion, marketing an Ion 2 as being able to do video encoding and transcoding, is stretching it a little. I don't doubt that you can do it, and if a netbook is the only available system you have and you need to edit a video for anything, well then, use it, it'll just take longer, but a desktop will work much better and faster. Besides, unless you're only using Windows Movie Maker (which is extremely limited in its abilities, but good enough for the average joe), you're going to need a desktop platform for optimal results.

 I look forward to the time when I can have the power and capacity available in a desktop, in the form factor of a netbook (with a battery that'll last more than 30min). Heck, the thought of a dual-core CPU in a mobie phone is exciting in terms of technological advancements!

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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Evolyptic

It doubled.

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Evolyptic

I commend you for such a swift response to my argument, and I must say I like the way you debate. It reminds me of my way just a bit, but you're probably older than I am so I might say your way. (I'm 18.)

However, with the ability to attack an argument from bothsides comes the confusion factor, and can lead to you mixing your concepts. In the first paragraph you go through and tell how netbooks have their place and that it isn't desktop replacement. Althought I agree. I believe we were speaking in future tense. Thus in the future maybe netbooks are considered viable options for desktop replacements. I don't believe it will happen as Laptops are next in line to take the crown. [Really looking forward to easier access in releasing laptop parts.] But you can never count out technology because it will throw some surprises at you.

That point you made about the CPU is something I've made in a old argument. Intel is currently trying to do as you said give netbooks a place and not allow them to invade other places. However, I'm currently in the belief that probably a new company or one old & forgotten will come out with a new CPU for netbooks, but as you said. Currently the netbooks can't be desktop replacements.

The point of them throwing in that Ion can encode and transcode video is to show the public that they are working on it. This is what they've gotten so far, but you can only go forwards from here.

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Caboose

 It appears that ultimately we are in agreement.

My excuse is that it's been a long day of IT work and support ~500 users!

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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DasHellMutt

Agreed!

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