No Internet? Then You Can’t Play Command & Conquer 4 (Also, How Are You Reading This?)

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darkking

 EA, wake up. It isnt going to work. Its like you have an infected nail, so you decide to cut off your own foot.

This type of security will be bypassed. There will be a tool to emulate your servers and play the game. Happened with valve and still happens today.

Stop milking a licence and make something of quality.

Look its "NFS Crystal meth Turbo maximum Burnout Speed"  It has more words in the name it MUST be better!!!

I pirate AND I Purchase. try it,like it buy it.  Try it, dont like it,delete it

Over 50 REAL games on my shelves but you constantly make me regret buying yours.

The 5 key thing with RA2 was a mess. I called at one point becasue i couldnt get on (some hardware issues) and asked for extra activations. I had said "I need extra activations, i didnt want to have to crack it with a chuckle"   I was told "heres 2 and thats all you are ever going to get. And you couldnt crack it if you wanted to"     And that was the last time i bought a EA game, and my friends did, and their friends did.

I play LOTS of games, and BUY all of them...OH except yours...

 

 

Technological progress is like an ax in the hands of a pathological criminal. --Albert Einstein

been around along time in the shadows. I don't post much..But I watch

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nekollx

 Anyone a member of EA.com and can get the email addy? you need to login to contact them and i'm not a member, but i'm planing to inform them they just lost a customer, i advise others to do the same. 

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starbuck

...(Also, How Are You Reading This?)

 I can read this because I have high speed internet at work.  No such luck at home where my gaming computer is.  What would be the point in paying for dial up at 40 kps?  That's the fastest I can get at home.  It might surprise many that many rural areas in US cannot get DSL/Cable broadband.  If I had known 10 years ago how my slow connection was affecting others online play, I probably would have been too embarassed to play online.  At least back then games still allowed you to play using dial up (Mechwarrior 4 :))

 So the only effect all this antipirating-online-activation and must-be-online-to-play has for me, is I don't buy those games.  I had bought a new computer so I could play Crysis and was looking forward to last years Crysis: Warhead, but it reqired online activation, so no Warhead (if they had a toll free number for activation, I still would have bought it).  They can spew all the BS about the terrible pirates, or how great it is not to have to keep a CD in drive, but that's a bunch of rationalizations.  So, I hope that since they eliminated the piracy that they sold a lot of copies to those who actually could play the game.  Of course, if online activation REALLY prevented piracy, then why scale up the draconian measures to must-be-online-to-play?

The other effect of such moves is further drive people away from PC gaming to consule gaming.  The third Crysis enstallment is supposed to be multi-platform, and since consules DRM/antipirating is built in to the systems and doesn't require online connection, I'll be buying it for Xbox.  Unfortunately, EA still makes the sale, but PC gaming looses.  It will suck that it won't have as beautiful of graphics as PC version.  The Xbox version of Command and Conquer 3 wasn't as good as my older version of PC C&C and I will never by another C&C for a consule.  It will be intersting to see how sales are if this really happens.

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Tenhawk

It's obviously an attempt to halt game piracy, because that's the ONLY reason for this move. If it were merely to track player standings then EA would simply in form gamers that to be ranked they had to be online when they played. Offline games wouldn't count. End of Story.

Instead they're hiding this antipiracy measure in behind the current trend toward social experiences online. It's deceptive, probably includes various invasive breaches of trust, and will probably be the gold standard for anti piracy attempts in the future. That's not to say that it will actually WORK, just that this is the new way to waste money and alienate consumers.

Up until RA3 I have *purchased* every C&C game except for Renegade, however starting with RA3 I couldn't gather any further interest in the verse despite being in the Beta Test... or is that DUE to being in the beta test? RA3 was... childish, even when compared to the tongue in cheek fun that was RA2. I don't know, didn't like it anyway. And I can't say that I'm likely to buy into C&C4 either, though this internet nonsense is merely a small part of that. EA simply isn't very good at making story driven games. And if I want to play just another RTS I'll load up RA2.

Let's be frank, RTS games are stale and not getting any better. I want a revolution in my favorite game category... Give me an RTS where I can play multiplayer and command other REAL people in combat. I want real PILOTS flying the Orcas, Tank Commanders who can think for themselves, and infantry that knows how to take cover without me micromanaging their motions.

Simply put? I want command of an army of real players working along with me to take out another army of real players working along with their commander. and THAT is a game I would be happy to be online to play. 

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Caboose

 You want to command an army of real players? GO play battlefield and be the commander! You can direct your units to various objectives, and they take care of themselves. Or become a high ranking general in the millitary.

 What you described would be a FPS/Flight Sim/Tank Sim/whatever with one person watching a minimap giving commands. I'll take an RTS like C&C or StarCraft over something like that any day.

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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bart3385

This is the new "forced invasion of privacy" strategy. Thinly vailed.

You got me at hello. I already knew this sly tactic the moment i read thru the first two words on the title.  The whole article did try to provide a nice tactical diversion. But in the end,  it still has to spit it out in broad daylight.

 

I see 2 likely scenarios:

1. A percentage of consumer (big or small? i don't know) will actively boycott this game.

2. Another percentage of consumer won't be able to play this game due to lack of internet connection, sluggish connection, or bad connections that keeps on cutting off. Which will unintentionally result into passive boycott of this game.

 

This is a very bad move on EA.

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nekollx

 3: EA will gloss over this fact, people who don't troll EA.com will try to play their game with their internet off and find they can't. EA will be hit with a lawsuit fiasco that puts Spore to shame.

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bingojubes

its bad enough my connection sucks - its one of the main reasons i sell my self out to single-player games mostly. its just a better experience for me, and not having to go onto the internet just because i wanna play a game seems ridiculous. bring back offline co-op, hunter: the reckoning style. online is good for multiplayer, but if its just to play single player so they can track my statistics, i would be way at the bottom under "these players' stats are not even enough to be considered noobs. cheaters." yes, i stink at RTS online and offline - but it's fun when i don't have to share my record of 8000 losses and 2 ties with the entire world. there are some things that shouldn't be made public, ya know? if i go online, i just not ready for that kind of ridicule, even from players i don't even know half the time.

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Caboose

I don't know of anyone that goes out of their way to find the worst player, or someone with the lowest score on ANY game to make fun of them, or harass them. If thats your only excuse to not play a game, is because you don't want someone to look at your overall score, thats a pretty bad excuse.

 I boycotted BF2142 for a while because of the in-game ads. I ended up buying it few months later, and it's just fine. I enjoy playing it, and haven't noticed anything adverse.

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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Nitecascade

I'll just add this to the growing list of games I will not be buying. +1 to the other comments

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Cage

You mean you'll add it to the growing list of games that you will not be pirating.

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Caboose

 ZING!!

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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Caboose

 I could see people being up in arms over this if they had dial-up, or only had so many minutes to use per month or a small amount of download capacity available, but with always on internet, and large download limits (or uncapped)why is this such a big deal? Most people that leave their PC's on 24/7/365 have various IM clients running, IRC maybe and a web browser open all the time.

If this is how EA will help deal with piracy (as we all know that is an underlying reason), and it's also encorperated in to the game in such a way that it doesn't appear to be an anti-pirating scheme then that's fine with me. 

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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MeTo

My game computer is "NOT" hooked up to the internet because of all the problems the internet delivers to a PC. I know people who turn off antivirus so they can play games. You "need  full" internet protection and it uses a ton of your resorces so they turn it off. This computer is hooked up to internet is mid to lowend and constantly updateing antivirus,spyware,adware you name it running in the background. I will be doing nothing at all not even at the PC and the CPU,HDD just starts churning away. If they wan't me to buy there games they better put them on a console im pretty much done playing games on the PC.

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Caboose

 Maybe if you're using Norton, AV uses a lot of system resources, but for the most part, they are pretty light on a system. As for the "PC being idle and start chugging away", if you're running Windows Vista, that's the automatic defrag. If you've got indexing enabled, then it's prob. indexing your drive. Heck, the AV app could be scanning while your PC is idle. There are a lot of apps that are designed to only work when the PC is idle so as not to affect your performance while it's in use.

Properly set up your OS and PC, and you won't have problems. Leave everything at it's default and then bitch and complain it's not working right, and you have no one to blame but yourself!

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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MeTo

My PC was at default from factory and was just plain annoying. Now my internet machine is default Linux/firefox thank you very much.

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habuza

Fail. Anyone see a trend going on with gaming? It's all going online all the time. I dont' like multiplayer gaming anymore, I used to. But I don't now, so much drama, so much asshattery, just isn't fun anymore. I'll stick to my singleplayer games.

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mdkplus

 

We already got used to this idea when half life2 came out, and you were forced to download and install Steam and log on to the server just to play quietly by yourself in your own little dungeon like den. It sucked. I don't know about anybody else, but when a game has to reach out and touch the internet just to function for my own private amusement doesn't make me happy. Soon I am sure that it will find a way to link to my wallet, too. It's like the servers are the pimps and the game is the prostitute. "No way am I doin this guy, boss! He's got some nasty pirated software thing goin on there and I ain't gonna touch it!" 

On the flip side, when I need an update, mod, or patch it is nice to have a server front end like steam to let me know and keep my affairs in order. (at least until i lose my password!)

I am pleased enough with EA games thus far and they have given a lot of developers paychecks, so I am willing to cut them some slack. For the most part I still enjoy being able to log on and almost instantly start fraggin smacktards on good ol' bf42

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nekollx

 the thing is with Steam you can (andi often do) play offline. You realy only need to be in online modefor the download and initial set up. Hell Fallout 3, which requires a Steam Account AND and Windows Live Account, can play complety offline.

 Sorry EA you just lost another costomer, cause my game pc is my laptop and i don't have internet on the go.

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Coming soon to Lulu.com --Tokusatsu Heroes--
Five teenagers, one alien ghost, a robot, and the fate of the world.

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squarebab

" While some may be taken aback by this, we’ve been testing this feature internally with all of our world-wide markets.”

TRANSLATION: We know we're screwing you, but it's OK because we're screwing everyone else too.

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D3lt4

Ever since I moved I have not had an internet connection (3+ months) at home, so I am bumming of off my university, everytime I come in over the summer. (living off campus)

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