NJ Principal Says Parents Should Ban Social Networking

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Don't Know

Facebook Is Fun To Play, No Way To Ban Them, i'm 11 years old and i play facebook since 9 years old

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coldroll

Face book is stupid nyway it's so pointless.

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fusobotic

Obviously this guy hasn't even touched facebook at all. If he had, he would know that there's something called a friend system, and If you know someone's a bully you can ignore their friend request. Don't you just hate it when people generalize, like parents saying video games and the internet are EVIL.

Come on MaxPC crew! FIX THE SPAM FILTER!!!! It's not just a few people, everyone's tired of it already! 

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Daemon

@Anthony Orsini, principal of Benjamin Franklin Middle School, New Jersey.
Leave the child rearing to Parents and we'll leave the academics to Schools. Your authority stops at the schoolyard. It may be enough to warn Parents of social networking trends and how it can affect children and schoolwork and school in general; what parents do with that information is ultimately up to them. Its a bold new world, adapt.

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BeEazy10

They can just pull facebook up threw a mobile broswer, go to there friend house, or even use some MP3 players to get access to the internet to check there facebook. Its hard to ban something from a child due to the way technology growing nowadays. There is just so many ways to by-pass it.... Just give up?

 

Lol like really, is there really going to ask for are social security number every time you sign up to a site just to know your exact age?l 

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yardGNOME

Hell before Iphones and Ipads, there was the  Sony Walkman and Coleco's Electronic Football that got me in trouble in school in the early 80's...damn I just aged myself.

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BeEazy10

lol so true man! now my teacher so to hell with it... you can use your mp3/ cell phone while ur doing my work not while im talkng. 

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mysterymantis

I'm not sure what all that crap is at the front of my previous post, but I tried to edit it out, and it still is there.  I guess it is jsut something for someone to gripe about instead of what I actually wrote. 

 

Who cares.

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mysterymantis

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2 points to make here.  First, do people still criticize each other
online for not writing in proper grammar and misspelling words?   Is it
still 1999?  If so, I am not sure that my computer is Y2K compliant, and I
need to stock up on water and ammo before it tries to kill me.  Seriously,
get past the retarded 8th grade English class crap, and argue an actual point.

Second, cyberbullying?  Really?  Here's a lesson to the guidance
counselor, tell anyone that brings this crap to you the alternative. 
What's the alternative?  Real life bullying! Which is stuff that happens
in a format that you can't just ignore.  Online, you choose to expose
yourself to whatever it is that happens, so stop doing that. 

Are you getting trashed in emails?  Don't read them, and also delete
them.  Someone leave a nasty comment on your wall?  Take them off
your friends list so they can't comment anymore.  Are they saying things
about you on their wall?  Well imagine that, immature morons talking about
you behind your back.  That honestly only started happening after the
creation of Facebook.  Seriously, it did.  (No, no it didn't...)

 "But people don't like me!"  Of coarse they
don't!  You respond like a tard whenever they bash you on the
internet!  Like I just did, and I don't even know you!  

Send me your phone number and I'll send you the most menacing text message
you ever got!  And then, like a tard, you'll open it and read the whole
thing.  When I get a text that I don't like, I delete it.  Why? 
Because I am in control of what I read, and it is just that simple. (Don't
actually send me your number, because I really don't want it.  But if you
do, I will text you about how dumb it was to do that, and also about how much I
hate texting)

What happened to this world?  I don't know what's worse, a generation
of pansies that get offended by getting cyberBSed, or the fact that the bullies
are such pansies all they do now is cyberBS.  For god's sake, someone give
somebody a wedgy already!  

 

That which does not kill us makes us stronger, though it often makes us wish
we were dead.

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COMMANDER_COOK

Half the time the parents don't even give a shit what their kids are doing. 

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imagonex

Facebook epically FAILS at the social and the networking part.  

One has to be among other people to learn how to socialize, not as a hermit huddled behind a keyboard. Facebook misses many real world socializing factors. We all need to socialize in the presence of other humans. Websites don't provide the proper environment for us to socially evolve. Banning Facebook has more pros than cons.

Facebook is all about making money and collecting data on people. 

Yes, the principal has a valid point. It's easy to type anything and be anyone on the internet. However, try the same tactic of bullying in the schoolyard and see how far that goes. Try mouthing off in front of someone in the same manner some people do on Facebook and see what the repercussions are. 

Facebook doesn't teach or educate kids on socializing or properly network. Children need to learn to socialize by being around other kids and/or adults, not webpages. In 20 to 30 years from now, they'll make for better adults. Besides, in the real world, you don't have 300 friends. You probably have 1 or 3 good friends. One also learns better social skills by being around other people.

Kids that spend more time with kids and adults in the real world will make better adults later on in life. That's what bullies are missing. Bullies need good parents, good friends and a proper environment to socially evolve in.

Yes, again, the principal is 110% right. Real Life proves it.

 

 

 

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Danthrax66

Written communictaion is very important in the business world if you can't socialize via written communication you are useless. Facebook can help you develop these skills so saying you don't gain anything from typing behind a keyboard is ignorant of you. Especially since most kids after they come home sit and play videogames with themselves  and thus have zero communication. Your vision of "real life" is flawed and appears to me that you do not work in a business environment. And you also clearly don't get Facebook or social networking. I don't think that you get networking in general the more people you know the more ooportunities become available and the better your life becomesDon't post a response to this article anymore because you clearly don't understanding the implications of social networking and every comment you made shows that Let your kids live their own lives and make their own mistakes There is no need to censor what they do all it does is make adults with no understanding of the real world.

Live, Learn, and Shut the Fuck Up. 

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imagonex

Dear sir/madam,

Uh...it's communication not communictaion. Not sure what communictaion is. With all that abounds in e-learning resources on the web it's amusing to see such a simple word be mistyped so atrociously!

Facebook doesn't teach kids proper social or business étiquette. They neither learn how to properly socialize, nor how to properly communicate on Facebook. The proof is on Facebook if you don't believe me.

The point I was trying to make is about socially evolving and cyberbullying. I pointed out what is necessary to make a well balanced adult later on in life and what bullies need are "real" good friends, good parents and a real environment to properly socially evolve in. 

Facebook is a poisonous environment for bullies as well as the victim.  

What is Facebook about? Well, it's main purpose is for corporations to find out what they can sell to you, how they can spam you or how they market whatever to you. If you're a big business, then yes, Facebook is a great way to effectively spam people. 

On a psychological and/or sociological scale it's merely an aggregate of solitudes.   

Networking on Facebook? No, it's the opposite of that. People shut out, lock out or live in these closed-up fantasy worlds. You call that networking? Check-up the definition of business networking in the dictionary.  

Facebook (or the web) fails at teaching anyone good manners. Another thing kids won't learn on Facebook.

As far as business goes, sorry, if you owned a business, you wouldn't have written such nonsense in the first place. I dare you to reply in such manner to business partners in the real world and see how far you go.

Then there's your insipid signature finish of Live, Learn and STFU. Wow...very immature & very unbusiness like of you. This only proves your low level of maturity plus your lack of a diverse & rich vocabulary to concisely and precisely explain your limited narrow thoughts into words (correctly spelled and lacking asinine expletives). Facebook doesn't neither teach good manners, nor business étiquette, nor grammar.

No, Facebook doesn't help anyone develop any skills. Fail again for Facebook.

One also won't learn any good networking business skills on Facebook. Going to college or university or working in a business environment teaches you how to network in the business world. Fail again for Facebook. Don't believe me? Just go look on Facebook.

All in all, one learns how to properly write, spell and communicate at school, among other people and with well educated parents. Bullies are people that need help and Facebook isn't going to help them get that proper help. Sorry for the redundancy of the word help.

I'll reiterate: yes, the principal is right in regards to what he stating. He's 110% right.  

Thank you for your time in reading my constructive explanation. I do hope it helps to clarify any misunderstanding(s).  

Best regards...

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Danielt876

Just wanted to make it clear that you have no right to criticize other people's grammer. In your post you wrote "Facebook doesn't neither teach". Dosen't neither is a double negative, and is therefore improper.

You also don't understand the fact that just because someone is involved with a business dosen't mean they have to treat dumbasses (you) like they would customers.

P.S. :P

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misha573

One hundred percent agreed.  Leave facebook for the adults with time to waste.  Kids should be out playing or in learning.  Facebook does absolutely NOTHING to help prepare them for the reality of living.

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Danthrax66

You old people can keep telling yourselves that because you have probably never used it and all you here about it is the horror stories of "cyber-bullying" let me tell you cyber-bulling is a bullshit term that the media used I can see that I am arguing with over protective parents that just don't get it. Oh and this isn't a business environment it's a fucking comment section of a website I don't have to check for typos or be appropriate. And back to your argument of Facebook doesn't help communication, lets look at the alternative: sitting your ass in front of the television. That is a great educational tool it teaches you a lot. But I net you let your kids spend an ungodly amount of time in front of it and if you don't you are probably in the minority.Now please stop with your dumbass argument that Facebook is evil it just shows that you aren't young enough to understand.

Live, Learn, and Shut the Fuck Up. 

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Danthrax66

also cyber-bullying is 100% avoidable you just don't friend them if anything it teaches how to avoid trouble and yeah some kids fail at it. If your kid gets cyber bullied they are a failure at picking friends. And this principle is wrong the school shouldn't worry about what happens on the internet if a kid gets bullied in school then yes deal with it but if it happens online it is completely avoidable and the kid should be able to deal with it himself.

Live, Learn, and Shut the Fuck Up. 

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thesmilies

Because OBVIOUSLY Facebook is the reason for all bullying...

*Facepalm*

If parents are proactive in their kid's life bullying shouldn't be a problem anyway. The creation of the internet did not bring bullying into existence.

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schwit

Imagine yourself when you are 70 or 80 and thinking back on your life. Will you have regrets with the time spent on Facebook or playing video games or some other useless activity?

When it comes to your time there are no do-overs and there are no refunds. I suggest you spend it wisely.

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Aiks22

Dude i dont know what planet you come from, but palying video games is NOT a waste of time

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steven4570

i wouldnt say facebook and playing video games is a waste of time, its a form of entertainment just like anything else, you can abuse it sure but most people dont

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Pokedex1010

the idiot thinks that he's freaking god and he can tell other people how to run their lives.  The fuck kids can't use the internet, let's just had them typewriters and send them to the library every time they want to do look uo something (an mind you i actually enjoy visiting there).  You cant just go and order people around like your in total control, let parents parent, and you run the god damn school.  Plus, it's not like the internet's going away anytime soon. Get use to it.

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jpwashere13

Well that will really not do anything. Facebook is keeping kids from doing other stuff, like acid, smoking and being asshole teenagers. (Being a teenager) I think parents would have other stuff to worry about. Like Education, health and sofourth. So parernts should take care of their own kids, oppesed to killing social networking for everyone. That is one step closer to being like China. What's next? Pornography ban? Banning people from speaking out agiants the Govermant?

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gendoikari1

And what if the parents are on Facebook? Just a quick peek at the News Feed tells you what idiotic things your child is up to. 

SPAM FILTER MUST DIE

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monkeykid753

Being a middle school student (7th grade) I don't believe this is necessary. I don't have a Facebook account because I know I will finish homework past 12 (and I currently finish at 10:30 on an average night). But these social networking sites help kids have more and better friends. Nearly everyone in my school has a Facebook page for this reason.

My exploding trick: Any iPad/Phone/Mac haters get a lot of silly putty, then clog up the speakers on iPad and iPhone or vents (if they exist) on an iMac and wait for a few minutes... then....

BIG BOOM!!!! 

 

The Creator of that

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Biceps

I dunno, you all.  I think that any way we can oppress the young and limit their access to technology would be good... I mean, how are we adults supposed to stay ahead in this world if we have all of these tykes starting up internet companies and becoming billionaires.  Or maybe we could all get together and start actively bullying these children together in shifts!  Then we could make sure that each one of them gets some special attention and is emotionally handicapped for life... HAHAH, NOW try being competitive in the marketplace, kid!

Seriously, parents need to teach their children to treat one-another with respect, and to be fully involved in their children's lives.  Banning Facebook is not the answer.

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monkeykid753

I work with kids around the world making an awesome game called Present Fear Online. 3D (graphics and.. well... pop out of your screen 3D). And the game making some good money... 

My exploding trick: Any iPad/Phone/Mac haters get a lot of silly putty, then clog up the speakers on iPad and iPhone or vents (if they exist) on an iMac and wait for a few minutes... then....

BIG BOOM!!!! 

 

The Creator of that

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auwingr1

I have addressed this issue before. Being a parent of four, I monitor them daily because I DO care about their well being. That's what a responsible parent is supposed to do. I agree with the principal. There is no need for social networking when it's used to bully other children.

Fix the spam filter for cryin' out loud!

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Pokedex1010

that the internet is just this evil demon that everyone on it is out to harm you in someway. Also, there's a reason for the "block" function on facebook, for these kind of people

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dabooks

Maybe the problem is that most parents don't spend enough time with their kids, and therefore don't know what they are thinking, let alone what they are communicating to their peers. I have three (ages 11, 15, and 16), and the only way to have a good handle on what they do is to know them well, and have their respect. Which, it seems to me, is pretty much the job description of a decent parent.

And the other thing is to fool them into thinking you are a tech-wizard. Which is where MaxPC comes in...

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JohnP

 It does not really matter how much time parents spend with their children, statistically it makes no difference. As if "monitoring" your children at home makes any difference in school, I think not. my bullying was in the parking lot for recess or in the locker rooms, did not need no internet for that!

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Danthrax66

How to deal with a bully:kick him in the balls. Most bullies are complete pussies just show you aren't a bitch and they stop. Seriously cyber bullying is bullshit sticks and stones may break your bones but names will never hurt you.

 

Live, Learn, and Shut the Fuck Up. 

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Danthrax66

Over protective parent alert! So has your teenage kid told you that he lost his virginity at 12 yet? Then he is probably lieing to you since that is the average age now a day. Shocking isn't it! Get over yourselves why should we give a fuck what teenagers look at when they turn 18 they will find out about it anyway.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6wOt2iXdc4 <--watch it 

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Neufeldt2002

I understand what this guy is trying to do, I just don't think it is the right way. I have banned facebook in my house because of the security risks that it causes. My son was famous for downloading and clicking everything, he has gotten better but time will tell. It is only through my constant watch with security and making him see the damage he is doing has he gotten better. He is now old enough to go on facebook (My rules) and he has to do it on Linux, if he uses windows I pull the plug forever. Facebook is not secure.

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Please fix the spam filter it does not work right.

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Neufeldt2002

Just a quick add on. My oldest (14) has decided he does not want facebook as he doesn't see the need now. He would rather buy himself a cell phone as all he would use facebook for is to talk to his friends. Also, as a side, facebook is the only site I black listed.

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Danthrax66

 The thing I like about facebook is that it syncs with my cell phone so when my friends on there update their phone number or email or picture it updates in my phone and I don't have to bother worrying about loosing my high school friends information if I want to get back in touch with them. The single most important aspect of facebook is that once you loose contact with the friends you have in high school (once you go to college and what not) you can still sort of keep in touch with them. When I was 14 I didn't see a point in (at the time) myspace but facebook has its use when I was a senior and everyone realized we wouldn't be in touch much after graduation/the summer. But when your oldest is a senior they will probably have something new out that will be better than facebook that will server the same purpose.

 

 

Live, Learn, and Shut the Fuck Up. 

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Neufeldt2002

Bottom line, my house, my rules. I have shown my child report after report of the dangers of facebook. I then explained why my child could not have one until my child was 14. My child is now more computer savvy and aware of the dangers. I now know I can trust my child with a facebook account. This has nothing to do with my dislike for facebook, this has to do with a child not being able to handle the tools that are presented to the child. You don't let a child drive a car until they are 16 because they have to GROW UP. This is what they article is about, albeit written very wrong, parents need to know what their children are doing, and say no to the ones that they feel the children are not ready to handle.

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Danthrax66

There is no fun in doing it if there isn't danger involved. And besides Facebook isn't myspace it has a lot more security in place to protect teens. And isn't the minimum age 14 anyway? So technically these kids are breaking the tos if they are younger than 14. But anyway who needs Facebook when there is 4chan. And I'm going to assume the spam filter is gone?

Live, Learn, and Shut the Fuck Up. 

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Neufeldt2002

I only clicked once

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Danthrax66

Yeah you're right kids under 16 probably shouldn't have facebook but once you become a sophomore/junior in high school it is a good thing. And I'm sorry but "grownups" don't get new things, it happened with rock and roll and its happening again with facebook and social networking. All you do is focus on the bad, you know what happens if you go on facebook and someone post on your wall calling you names? You hit the delete button bam problem solved. Over protective dumbass parents that don't let kids handle bullying by themselves is the problem with america today cyber bullying is a bunch of bullshit, if you are so fragile that some words get to you there is something wrong. America is raising a generation of over protected ball-less, spine less children that have no idea of how to deal with their own problems. If some kid calling you names on facebook is your biggest problem you should consider yourself lucky there are teens that have to steal in order to have food to eat and are living on the street and you want to get in an uproar over facebook? Seriously stfu, too many over protective sue happy parents that are trying to live their children's lives.

 

Live, Learn, and Shut the Fuck Up. 

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Zachary K.

you kiss your kids with that mouth? and if its not facebook it will be something else, at least with facebook they are socializing.

also, the guy is saying "perma ban facebook at home" he is telling you how to raise your kid.

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COMMANDER_COOK

At least he's bringing it to some parents attention. Some of them probably don't know what their kids are doing on it. Remember we're talking about middle schoolers! They should be playing kickball!

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Zachary K.

in other words, "i am old and scared of new things".

the same reason there are no cellphones or ipods in school.

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Vegan

No, the reason they don't want expensive electronics in school is because it's thief-bait and the administration doesn't want to waste time playing detective.

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SEALBoy

Can we extend the ban to everyone?

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