MPAA DRM Site Hacked by Anonymous

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nealtse

On one hand, if you keep stealing stuff from creators, they'll stop creating things.  But the RIAA and MPAA only seem to represent creators in the most cursory sense, with many layers of abstraction and separation from the actual spark of genius behind the act of creation.

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kris79

Here we go again... You own it. You should be able to do whatever you damn well please with it. When the law isn't reasonable, the law is reasonably ignored.

If Hiram or Mustafah want to keep getting money from you after you've bought something of theirs, show them the middle finger of either hand and continue to do whatever you damn well please with whatever you already own. Thank God for the clever rebels and brilliant hackers who provide them that lesson every day. I don't understand these rebels, but I sure admire them. Sure, the dark side will injure a few and win a few battles, but they will lose the war in the end. If copywritists don't like it, they can get the hell out of the business of providing us entertainment and go do something usefull like digging fence post holes. If we don't like it, we don't have to buy it. Suck out on both sides. MPAA - don't make us laugh. This is war... A treaty awaits the battle weary. Take a close look at www.gog.com to see what this is all about as they've come to realize the benefits of playing both sides. No copy protection... and they make money - what a surprise!

Let's see what the fat, opulent, shekel schilds want to do next...

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dhosborne

I think that the state of copyright protection and DRM has crossed the lines of ownership implications on numerous occasions.  However, crediting gog.com with not pushing DRM is giving them a little too much credit.  If you have ever been a fan or supporter of such sits as abandonia.com or several other classic game collections you will see that you are paying for something that at one time you could have got for nothing more than a few mouse clicks and maybe, maybe a donation if you were feeling so charitable that day.  Many of the titles that are on gog.com were once on abandonia.com, but now the download links are gone and they are considered protected since they are now being sold to you.

I do think that they are doing a great job of representing great classic titles to consumers, however they too are now profiting from buying the rights to someone else's work.

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JDorfler

These folks own the rights to do what they want with DRM or what have you, but we shouldn't go around destroying their property.  If you don't like what they are doing, don't buy their crap.  I don't.  I won't steal it either, nor destroy their crap.  It's like protesting and trying to destroy a Wal-Mart.  If you don't like a company or product for some reason, don't buy it or financially support them  As consumers we are more powerful than any corporation.  No one can force us to buy anything.

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R22000

i am big on reading comic books, peronsally i see 3 dollars an issue as a ridiculous price to read for about 10 minutes.  i also do not see the comic book companies trying to sell me digital downloads of such media, so what other choice do i have.  secondly with regards to music i'd rather have them set up some way for me to give a donation for music that i own than have to pay the corporations that just get filthy rich off the music.  secondly with regards to music how old is the cd now almost if not more than 20 years old.  i am sorry but i am not paying 10-15 dollars for a cd when the technology is that old and has not really been improved.  i respect and honestly wish to be able to support the authors or creators of things i download because they deserve something for it.  but honestly i do not see how the importance of so many middle men making all that money.  so i say get rid of the middle men or just shut up RIAA about piracy.

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Ghok

Well, it's not like they're wrong. These groups are powerful and influence Government. Look at some of the fines they've been able to deal out in courts.

And something is DAMN wrong if the easiest. most convenient way to get a quality video file of a movie or TV show is by pirating it. Don't get me started on bad DRM.

 

 

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whitneymr

Now is there any chance we can launch a donial of service attack om these spammers?

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I_pwn_newbz86

Go hackers! Fuck Yeah!

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Nimrod

Considering that the MPAA is a FACSIST organization, i say to hell with them. If a group like that cant even secure their own damn website, why the fuck should they be dictating to ME what I can and can not do with a DVD that i legally purchase?

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Walnut

I dislike the MPAA as much as the next guy, but you don't know what "fascist" means. Or, for that matter, how to spell it. As much as the media would like you to think otherwise, you can't just label things you don't like as "fascist," "communist," "socialist," etc. and expect people to take you seriously. This bugs me.

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anon5

Lets consider what all this is about. The US passed copyright laws in 1790. Their purpose was to protect from plagerism; taking someone else's work and calling it your own. The law was never designed to protect the profits of some corporation but to protect the author.

Next consider this: everytime you use the webs to view your favorite web site, you are downloading a file. That file was authored by someone else yet you are viewing it for free. You have been alllowed to view it. Suppose tomorrow, the host site decided that you have to pay to view their copyrighted material. Oh noes Try another site? Oh noes. they are asking for money too!!! Soon there is not a single page you can view that you wont be charged money for. Bet youll be bitching then.

Anonymous is not about downloading a song. Its about preventing corporations from getting a foothold in their ability to control the internet and thereby, begin to control the free flow of information which is what you all love about the web in the first place.

If its not stopped now, we're all in trouble. Think about it.

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ferariman

the only thing i get free is music. not through bittorrent. i go youtube and search for the song i want. i copy the url and then paste it at keepvid.com. save it as a flv and convert it to mp3 using freemake video converter. and there u have it free music

 

downloading cracked software from bit torrent is morally wrong.

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Havok

I can see how some people may not like your method of getting music, but anything up on YouTube is fairplay.

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dhosborne

Read again.

The act of downloading videos from YouTube.com is a violation of the YouTube terms of service 

http://www.youtube.com/t/terms

Section 5. para b.

Content is provided to you AS IS. You may access Content for your information and personal use solely as intended through the provided functionality of the Service and as permitted under these Terms of Service. You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content. YouTube and its licensors reserve all rights not expressly granted in and to the Service and the Content.

If you have ever signed up for a Youtube.com account or logged in with your google account then you have consented to abide by their terms of service including the passage listed above. 

This being said you are subject to termination of service and IP-ban from the site. 

There have been Federal court rulings that violation of TOS in and of itself is NOT a crime (Facebook V. Powers Inc); it is still possible that laws exist in your state that cover bi-passing code to prevent downloading may constitute a crime.

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dragonfang18

Back in the day of the early 2000's, I bought A LOT of songs... Years later, the computer died. I built a new computer, and a year later, decided to try my hand at recovering harddrives....

As soon as I recovered all the songs I bought from microsoft media player, I cant play them any more becuase I dont have the "rights" to play them. I was at least happy to play songs of old that I ripped from CD's still... But I have no rights, and they dont give me a clear way of activating my rights again...

So all my legally bought songs that I never played since years ago cannot play on this computer....

 

DRM is a fail....

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zNelson24

I know DDoSing sites is wrong and all, but I believe that the Anons are doing it for all the right reasons. Entertainment industry has been ripping off artists, collecting for works they never made, and trying to bully people in court rooms.

The way I see it, they're both wrong in a sort of way. I think of pirates as the Robin Hoods of the internet, and the entertainment industry as bandits who rob, scare, and torment people to get what they want.

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Extremist

 

http://tieve.tk/about.php - The Full Text of the Open Letter Directed at Whoever It Concerns.

 

 

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Zachary K.

there are proper channels for this stuff that does not involve being an ass. write your congressmen and ask them to loosen up copyright laws, if nothing happens, not enough people agree with you and no action is needed. this is just a small group of Aholes who are complaining that they don't get their way all the time.

can't afford it? you don't need it. thats my argument agents piracy. instead of pirating music, movies, and games you can get a job, or get training/education for a better one (or find a wire/husband and get double the income ((added bonus, happiness)) ).

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aviaggio

And of course it's a ridiculous argument. Why should I go thru all that effort when I can just simply take what I want? I think of it as payback for all the records and CDs I've bought over the past 30+ years that had only 1 or 2 good songs out of 10 or 12. Compounded with interest and adjusted for inflation I think I'm due a few thousand tracks at a buck each.

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Vegan

"I think of it as payback for all the records and CDs I've bought over the past 30+ years that had only 1 or 2 good songs out of 10 or 12."

That's strictly a matter of taste and opinion. I've been completely satisfied with the entirety of many albums, but I don't buy pop music. If you were hoodwinked by a radio single, that's your own fault. If you bought an album sight-unseen (er, heard?), you knew the risk.

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aviaggio

Back in the 70s and 80s you didn't have a choice. There was no way to preview an album before you bought it. And it's not like you could return it if you didn't like it (unlike 99% of other consumer items that have no return restrictions). So not only couldn't you preview it, but if you bought it and didn't like it, well tough shit, you're stuck with it.

And that my friends is why I don't ever buy music. They already got my money 30 years ago. If there is an artist I want to support I'll go to their website and buy merch. Cause otherwise you're just feeding the labels, not the artists.

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Zachary K.

and thats how you justify stealing from people who worked hard to create what you steal? you are a no good thief, hope you are proud.

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Ghok

Funny, the more music I download, the more music I buy. And the more concerts I see and the more merch I buy. I sure don't buy everything I download, but all in all, I pay more artists, and listen to more artists.

That's why so many people put up their albums online for free, on streaming on their official sites or myspace.

This business model is working just fine. People are still making music! Probably more people than ever! It's far better than the old one where studios held the artists hostage and dictated rules on both the artists and the listeners. Back then, we didn't have a choice, now we do.

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basilh72

I don't agree with the pirates but I also have a harder time swallowing the crap the recording industry is pushing with their groups. They need to embrace change, move with it, stop fighting it, and let the business model evolve. Then and only then will they be positioned to benefit. Current practices do nothing but hurt both sides.

Vegan and Zachary K both sound like they have the recording studio's hand up their ass and are puppets. Hope they used lubrication with that procto.

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Keith E. Whisman

Unethical? These are pirates and hackers you are talking about. You can't expect any kind of good ethics from these guys.

I'm not saying that they are bad and evil, I'm just saying that what they do is morally wrong. I'm a member of that crowd that can't throw a stone because I am not without sin so I'm not going to rant about how terrible thepiratebay is. 

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aviaggio

And a $1.4 million judgment for sharing 20 songs is morally right? Using extortion tactics to get people to pay $2500 "settlements" is upstanding? Paying artists pennies on the dollar for album/track sales is ethical? Sorry, but these assholes get everything they deserve.

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Keith E. Whisman

I'm not saying that I support MPAA or RIAA either. I just took issue with pirates having ethics. It's stealing. You can't be an angel and a thief at the same time. 

The MPAA and RIAA are trying to make lots of money off of people that didn't have the money to purchase what they stole. MPAA and RIAA have spent millions and millions of dollars and have next to nothing to show for all that cash spent. They spend a million dollars to sue for $2500 bucks for a song that costs .99cents. Sure that makes sense somewhere to someone. I don't know who or where. 

But to be honest, stealing is wrong. If you steal something, your doing something unethical. If your pirating something, your doing something unethical. It simply is not possible to be an ethical pirate or even a malicious hacker. Someone that hacks to cause harm to someone or something, like a website. To hack someones website in order to make unauthorized changes to it is an unethical act. It doesn't matter who is good and who is evil here, I'm talking about what is ethical and what isn't.

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aviaggio

So Robin Hood was evil and unethical? Sorry dude, but the world isn't nearly as black and white as you'd like to think. Take an ethics class and then get back to me. And do we really need to have another discussion as to why downloading is not stealing, but copyright infringement?

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Keith E. Whisman

Robin Hood took it upon himself to decide what the rich could do with their money, how is that right? He supposedly took from the rich and gave to the poor. Is that what you want to teach your children? It's OK to steal from rich people? Somehow it's different and less evil and less wrong?

When you download a program or song, it's called stealing. When you steal someone else idea and sell a product based off the idea without permission, that is called copyright infringement. When you violate the DMCA you are in violation of the DMCA. When you copy someone else words and put your name on it and claim it is your words and ideas, that is called plagiarism.

So downloading music, movies, and software is stealing. Taking other peoples songs and replacing the voices with your own and then selling those songs as your songs, that's Copyright Infringement. When you hack into a video game to make the game playable without the disk, that's called violating the End User Agreement and if it's because you stole the game, it's also called hacking for profit and stealing.

Heck I can teach a class on this and I'm sure there would be people justifying hacking and stealing. As I said I'm not without sin so I can't cast the first stone here.  

Robin Hood was indeed evil and the world does exist in black in white. Try to explain to a judge why you should not have to pay a fine for going 50MPH over the speed limit. Pretty black and white my friend. 

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WalkerTR

"Robin Hood took it upon himself to decide what the rich could do with their money, how is that right?"

A misinformed illusion Kieth.

Robin Hood "stole" generally from government officials who basically extorted money from the populous. In the Dark Ages; if you oppose the government you end up in prison or executed. His legendary stature did not rise from him stealing from the "rich" so much as fighting against the people that were basically untouchable and returning the money that was taken from the people who had hardly anything to begin with and would die without it.

The law is there for a reason and lord knows pirates are far from being paragons of morality, but people like the MPAA abuse the law by taking it to levels that could never have been guessed at their creation. Supporting the use of the law in this way makes you Lawful Stupid, not Lawful Good. Plus I think that the 8th amendment is pretty clear about not imposing cruel and unusual punishments.

 

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Muerte

So good and evil are a matter of perspective.

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Havok

As a famous detective once said,

"I hate the goddamn system, but until someone comes along with changes that make sense, I'll stick with it"

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eric0rr

we all know what anonity is capable of, and what it as done, and what is has been deduced to. giving 6 years ago I think this would be a serious threat, but now, knowing anonity to be a bunch of trolls capable to slanderize government sites isnt a threat, but more of an regretable decisions, but who knows, trolls can be both heartless and determined.

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TommM

 

...who continue to believe that software, music and movies should be theirs, free for the taking (stealing).  These people are not interested in fair trade for a product.  They just want something for nothing - as always.

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Danthrax66

Oh the pirates are stealing? No you have it dead fucking wrong the RIAA are the true fucking theves out of every $1000 of record sales an artist sees about $23 So If I am stealing about a $1 worth of the Artists profit from every CD I download I will gladly pay for a $40 t-shirt at a concert because they make way more fucking money from that than any album they sell.

 

Here why don't you learn something about how much the record company is ruining their own business: http://www.techdigest.tv/2008/10/radiohead_pay_w.html <-- they released an album without a record label and made way more money they even offered it as "pay what you want" quit defending these piece of shit record labels.

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Peanut Fox

If an artist didn't like the terms of a contract deal, they didn't have to sign it.  It's not like they were force.  Besides, at least they were getting something from record sales.  I have to ask.  How does getting something you want for free help the artist?

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TommM

That Radiohead album that was "pay as you think you should pay" you're busy thumping your chest over?  Oh yeah - 40% of the people couldn't be bothered to pay A SINGLE PENNY for it and additional 20% paid a lousy buck or less.  Don't insult our intelligence by woofing about how much the RIAA is ripping off the artist.  I haven't seen Jay-Z and Metallica driving economy cars lately.  I guess you have??

If you're going to throw up some bullshit stats, do it from a reputable source, not pulling it out of your ass to support the "we want everything for free" crowd.

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Danthrax66

Learn how to read they made more money in the single month that the site was up than on their previous three albums combined. You are fucking thick when will you realize that the record companies are fucking us and the artists in the ass. And why do they sign with them? Because it is easier than doing it on your own but in the end the record company controls you and owns all of your work which is why I say fuck them, also blow me and your reputable sources http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/arts/music/09pare.html?ex=1354856400&en=ec2f1c29937292be&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all But it doesn't matter because you will still try to defend the record labels, like a fucktard. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Rainbows#Sales_and_chart_placings

 

Oh and Jay-z and Metallica are talentless cunts that represent everything wrong with the music industry today, so don't use those assholes as an example.

 

In this day and age there is no reason to have to sign with a record label other than the fact that they have a monopoly on distribution and advertising in this country no Indy artists can get on a US radio station because they have a fucking monopoly. 

 

So in conclusion Fuck you, fuck the RIAA, and if maximumpc wants to ban me go the fuck ahead.

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Keith E. Whisman

I'll have you know that I am able to dig up some really brilliant shit out of my ass. Like that first sentence. 

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aviaggio

"I haven't seen Jay-Z and Metallica driving economy cars lately"

Which is why neither they nor their record labels need my money.

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Wareagle

I never buy music.  I just listen to Slacker when I'm at home or at work, and the good old fashioned radio when I'm in the car.  I even have a Slacker app on my Android phone.

All 100% legally

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