Motherboard Makers Don't See Desktop PCs Making a Dramatic Comeback

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HeartBurnKid

The desktop isn't going anywhere -- and I mean that in both senses of the word.  It will no longer be the one indispensable appliance in every home thanks to laptops, netbook, smartphones, and of course tablets, but neither is it going to die.

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sunrise

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gendoikari1

What I would really want is non-shite OEM computers... like that'll happen.

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RAMBO

The End User must stand up against Intel, Intel wants to stranglehold the market with it's ingtergated

graghics on a cpu nonsence, (Intel Graphics suck and will always suck, stick to grate CPU'S) so we must unite and buy

more Nvidia and AMD killer add in Grahpics Cards, to keep Intel at bay. I don't have anything against Intel, but I sure

don't want any Corp. with such power dictating how are personel computing rig is built; if the

powerful addins are out there for us to purchase, lets go grazy and get'em and put'em in are RIGS... Think about all

the JOBS saved by the people who design, manufacture, ship, and sell all are grate ADD IN Peripherals...            

Not oversea's jobs of course, but it will help them too. I want my RIG my way, not the CEO way.

Can you say BOYCOTT if things go arye???

 LOVE you all and Happy computing!!!

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jydie

For me, if they can make the PCI-E x16 port external and then sell video cards in an external enclosure (complete with a cooling system) then I could see the large desktop being replaced by laptops or very small desktop units.  You could use the integrated video for basic stuff like web browsing, spreadsheets, etc. and plug in the external video card for some serious gaming.  :) 

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oskar funes

sadly, power users dont represent the majority of pc users, I even know those power users who would rather carry around those god-forsaken tiny underpowered netbooks than own a kick-ass laptop. And for gaming go to consoles (ugh). Im looking forward to changing my laptop for a full powered touch-screen laptop and for gaming im going to built a desktop rig just for that. Steam carries enough titltes for myself going console. Maybe Wii but when it is cheaper, to play with my wife and friends. Bottom line, desktop pc's are going the way american muscle cars, just a memory of a great power era.

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Ace of Spades

They may have said that desktop PC's are decling and it maybe true. But I don't buy this from Intel. I think they want to get rid of desktops PC's and make the switch to laptops or All-in-one PC's. This is so that they can stop people from upgrading their hardware and buy a new PC that isn't upgradable. Since they get more money from a new PC than an upgrade it makes sense to decline desktops. Also you can't upgrade all-in-one PCs, so they'll push those into manufacture even more. And since you also can't upgrade a laptops hardware, they'll say get with the new and portable and forget the big rigs in commercials.

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billcipp

As long as there is a need for overhauling, by upgrading and/or replacing defective components there will be a need for desktops, maybe smaller, but still a need.  Currently, you see many more desktops in a business environment than laptops.  Yes, laptops are becoming more popular as it becomes easier to hook up your laptop to a business mainframe, but businesses that use desktops in a cubicle arena will continue to use them due to their repair/replace cost factor.  They may get smaller, but they will still be there.

 

Then there is the “Home Theatre PC”.  These are just now gaining popularity.  Once again, a powerful laptop may be able to play a DVD over the flat screen TV, but hooking it into a receiver for HD sound or playing Blue-Ray through it becomes difficult.   And as games which are still played on the PC become more intense so does the need for more powerful GPUs, CPUs, and memory.  These costs can be justifiable upgrades to a smaller desktop or HTPC format but are next to impossible with a laptop.

 

I just introduced a HTPC to my living room and the results are awesome.  This system plays Blue-Ray, can burn Blue-Ray, play my collection of mp3s, stream the internet, watch videos, slideshows, etc. all to an HD screen and sound system.  My investment… $1600.00.  And yes, I built it myself which was a lot easier than one would think!

 

Desktops on the way out?  They may get smaller as motherboards, memory, CPUs and GPUs get smaller but I don’t think they will go away.

 

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Bender2000

Be real, the article isn't talking about the MaxPC gamer, they are talking about OEMs and how laptops are outselling desktops. Gamers are such a small niche. Regardless, it is time for the Manf to step up and adopt a new standard, ATX is way old. Something in the size of a Micro ITX  is a start, build in micro GPUs and slimline stuff. Then we can dispense with the case and simply bolt the chassis to the VESA mounts on back of a display. All we need is a concerted effort to get there. Reduced size means reduced heat which means less energy needed and adds up to savings.

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doradus

cdj

I don't believe they will be going away anytime soon. Right now there is only so much room in a laptop. You can't upgrade easily, if you try to upgrade some components, which, most glaringly, won't be the system board, it is more costly than working with a desktop. Right now, with a desktop, it is a no-brainer. Pick your pieces and have at it. No such path with a laptop. What you see is basically what you are stuck with. I am not saying there is not an area for laptop use. It is a godsend for business people who have to travel a lot, or any one else needing portability. I have a laptop, I use it when I travel to Photo sites and can download the days photos and check them to be sure I captured the scenes that I wanted, correctly. Sure, I can check them on the DSLR screen and the histogram. But, until you actually look at them on a big enough screen, you can't really tell if the exposure is as you want it. The laptop serves that purpose. I can tell you when I get back home, I can't wait to get them downloaded onto my desktop so I can really start processing the images. I am not a gamer but I do need a fairly powerful machine if I expect not to spend the next week processing images. Just my thoughts and why my desktop will be around for a while.

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JohnP

  Its the SIZE that really is the issue here. As nettops have shown, size does matter. Throw in a way to upgrade GRAPHICS in a small form factor, cool down the components without large heatsinks and fans, use 2.5 inch hard drives, and the reason for a large cased desktop tower goes away.

  Think about what we have already REMOVED from the desktop. Network cards. Sound cards. RAID cards.

  Throw in a large disk array for storage and a really small case is all that is necessary.

   One thing that CANNOT change is a full sized screen and keyboard. Be a long, long time before those can go away.

   Desktops will not evaporate, just shrink.

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busatoad

AS THE CHILDREN OF THE INFORMATION AGE ARE NOW BECOMING ADULTS AND MAKING REAL MONEY A BOOM IN DO IT YOUR SELF COMPUTERS    IS SOON . But these young adults will demand a quality products that component manufacturer's do not have . Quality is a must to this crowd and if the mass production companies don't start building a quality product this new generation has the know how to build a product that meats their high standers. ( hay my 16 year old son built a sound card in shop class and it rocks )..

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Spider-Mom

This has got to be the stupides thing on here. Maybe if they didnt charge 300-400$ extra to get a few choice features because of all the extra crap the tack on all the time it wouldnt be such a problem. If they stoped being dicks about their products and offered tri chan DDR and SLI for around 1 or 200$ at the launch of a new platform they wouldnt be having such problems.

A mobo doesnt need 32oz of pure gold to be able to OC.

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MeTo

I am thinking the Gameing PC desktop party is over as more people are switching to a console. If they don't sell enough motherboards they will raise the price to try to make more money and when they do they will sell less motherboards. Catch 22

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CarmonaEnterprises

I'm thinking that the cost to make motherboards may have an effect on the manufactures. My thoughts are; start designing boards that have little or no design flaws, overheating chips and such. Seems like when I shop for mobos there is always a major problem documented in the reviews thus turn away to shop around or wait. Take the time to design a good quality board and forgo the onboard sound, network, let the makers who make those create them and perfect them. You'll save money in the end.

An idea would be to send the sunsetted Mobos back to the manufacters and let them recycle the parts to make newer and better products and offer a small discount to the consumers. Think brand loyalty!!!

I have a desktop and a home server and they consist of desktop parts, if any of the parts go out, I can either fix it or purchase a new part with little or no downtime. With my desktop I use two monitors to do my work like photo, video editing, homework, emails, gamming,  programming and virtual PC computing most of which take a lot of processing power.

With my heavy usuage on the PC I would never use a laptop in fact I fried my HP laptop and was lucky to get a new board for that under warranty but I had a lot of downtime during its repair. If this went out again I would have to recycle the laptop and have a longer downtime.

It's nice to have a laptop for traveling and using the apps that everyday folks use but in the end the true processing power for heavy applications is the desktop and there will always be a demand for it.

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CarmonaEnterprises

I'm thinking that the cost to make motherboards may have an effect on the manufactures. My thoughts are; start designing boards that have little or no design flaws, overheating chips and such. Seems like when I shop for mobos there is always a major problem documented in the reviews thus turn away to shop around or wait. Take the time to design a good quality board and forgo the onboard sound, network, let the makers who make those create them and perfect them. You'll save money in the end.

An idea would be to send the sunsetted Mobos back to the manufacters and let them recycle the parts to make newer and better products and offer a small discount to the consumers. Think brand loyalty!!!

I have a desktop and a home server and they consist of desktop parts, if any of the parts go out, I can either fix it or purchase a new part with little or no downtime. With my desktop I use two monitors to do my work like photo, video editing, homework, emails, gamming,  programming and virtual PC computing most of which take a lot of processing power.

With my heavy usuage on the PC I would never use a laptop in fact I fried my HP laptop and was lucky to get a new board for that under warranty but I had a lot of downtime during its repair. If this went out again I would have to recycle the laptop and have a longer downtime.

It's nice to have a laptop for traveling and using the apps that everyday folks use but in the end the true processing power for heavy applications is the desktop and there will always be a demand for it.

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Yusonice

OEMs are digging their own grave by selling cheap PC with crappy parts which has not much upgrade options. So looking at how cheap laptops and crappy PCs are, obviously most would choose laptops instead! most people cant be bothered to build own pc.

 

so its oem's fault of selling crappy pc at jacked up prices.

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RetiQlum

"Like my old Granddaddy used to always say, the less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect"

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wk

with times notebooks will be more powerfull and more efficient, combine that with portability and u have a winner.

for the past 3 years i had only used notebook for my work, net and games.

so, except in few limited cases which require a beefy PC, these days notebooks are powerful enough to do it all.

MPC is my home page

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wytworm

There will always be those who would rather work every day in their driveway on a 1960 s 'classic' fuel chugging car saying more or less the same thing the build your own PC crowd is saying now. At the end of the day 99.9% of the world just wants to get from point A to point B and dont care what the tech of the car is so long as it doesnt make itself an issue. 

Gamers should and do care about gaming experience. Undeniably the trend is away from the desktop limitations. How long it will take is the only question. Most people won't notice and wont care if they do notice, they will just be happily playing the holographic games from their iWatch wristwatch and paying no heed to the dinosaurs shaking their fists at the sky and dealing in a shrinking niche market for 'vintage motherboards'.  

 

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MRrelabled

This is why big business just doesn't get it. Sales may be down but in no way are computer builders going to lay down to allow no option to build your own system. Also netbook and laptop prices may be coming down but they cost more to support and only have a one year warranty. I'm sure Dell, Acer, HP, ETC would like nothing better than this to be true but if fact this is so wrong.

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Curtai

I don't think desktops will die off,But I also think they won't be relegated to Institutions like schools either, because at my local college they have a cart full of laptops that use wireless access...

 

I sincerely hope that motherboard manufacturer's do continue to create new boards and associated tech. Just because I like my desktop but I must admit I have been using my laptop as of late alot more because it is just more portable... I can play games on it also and have no troubles with it... I have an Asus 13" Running Vista 64 with 4GB RAM and a 2GHz Core 2 Duo Proc with a Nvidia 9300M GS  Graphics Card...

Unless they make laptops that are more customizable/interchangeable also? Like a desktop PC is now? More Standardization less proprietary components. I mean wouldn't it be cool to be able to change out a processor or add and remove components and other parts as easy as a Desktop, I could see that being an awesome future for laptops...

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Sovereign

While the majority of people might switch to laptops (leaving desktops a niche market), desktops will never die.  You can always get more bang for your buck in a desktop.  There are some components that just aren't available in laptops.  Find me a laptop that can drive a 30" LCD @ 2560x1600 with acceptable framerates.  Hard to do, isn't it?  Desktop tri or quad SLI (or CrossFire) would do much better.

I'm sure laptops will continue eating away at market share (heck my desktop doesn't even see much use) but there are just some things that are better done on desktops for the moment.  How many game devs, 3D animators or engineers rely on laptops alone?  I highly doubt that those professions will be chucking their workstations out the window anytime soon.

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bart3385

As prices of laptops and netbooks keeps going down, it will soon be senseless to buy desktops for personal use. 

I think the desktop will eventually be relegated to institutions. School labs, libraries, offices, etc.

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jrocknyc

my wife uses her pc mainly to watch shows from japan, and the usual email/blogging. she uses a laptop.

 

my kid plays flash games and watches hulu. she uses a laptop too.

 

i still edit HD video and play games, and demand and ergonomic keyboard and 24"-30" screen, so I'll always be on a desktop, but i can see how 90% of computer users --the email/web/Word/Excel crowd -- would find laptops completely adequate.

 

But even I'd like to "downgrade" from a tower to a Shuttle/HTPC-sized case.

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BRKKAB

Laptops, Netbooks and cell phones will never replace Desktop PC's. Desktop's have Quad Core CPU's. The others have Dual Core CPU's. Also, who wants to lug around a notebook or netbooks, plus 2 portable DVD/Blu-Ray Burners and USB cables just to copy dvd's, etc. Not me. Not to mention Desktops graphics cards and tv tuners are both better. Desktops also hold more memory for more speed.

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K0BALT

"Its like saying psp will replace consoles one day."

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Wildebeast

This really interests me, because a fair number of the desktops used for "office work," seem to be el-cheapo models that are only marginally more upgradeable than a laptop.

So, I wonder how much better would desktop sales be, if/when the OEMs stop selling gimped machines with crappy chipsets and limited flexibility upgrade capacity, just because they can get the crap components cheaper?

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ghot

...fire up Autocad on your laptop and answer your own question  ;)

 

Take an OS, and edit out all the efficiency, and what you have left is a post-XP Microsoft operating system :)

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mesiah

It just won't happen. For all the reasons people give and more. The major factor for me is ergonomics. For long term use I have to be on a desktop machine. Laptops with their often quirky key placement and screens 2 inches off the desk just inspire bad posture and make long term use very taxing. Add in increased cost, lack of upgradability, corporate security risks for secretive projects, and overall lack of computing power and I can't see laptops every fully replacing desktops. Its like saying psp will replace consoles one day.

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K0BALT

And what will they be replaced with? Laptops? HA! Laptops are overpriced piss-poor excuses for a computer. I would never sacrifice portability for a modest performance laptop that'll be obsolete, (for my use), in a year. What a douche theory this is.

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ZuluTiger

 Desktops are what make computer building fun. Sure you can modify you laptop but it is a thrill to make a mega desktop. With desktops the possiblities are endless!

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mls067

My wife tried to go to just a laptop for a couple of years and just grew tired of not being able to run some games. I think after the ooo and ahhh wore off she really missed her desktop environment. She is not a techie by any means so it really supprised me when she asked for a new desktop to replace it.

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mattman059

I am now and will forever be a desktop person. I will build desktops and gaming machines for as long as they make the parts to do so. period. end of story.

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I Jedi

Agreed. Something about the desktop enviroment just seems so much more natural?

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dXCZe

Desktops will always rule the computer world. They are where the real computing power is. I love my desktop and I am looking forward to building another desktop pc from hell. Semper Fi

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Sentinel137

 

  What will Happen in time is that as Parts are made smaller and more faster, People who live in small homes or Apt's, will use a lap top due to how much space it takes up, On the flip side, People who have homes will have like a server base closet with all the hardware is in a rack where you would slide an old bord out and a new on in, and will handle all your computor needs, Streaming data, tv, Movies, enternet, Control your A/C system, Lights, Water temp for your shower and so on, Talk about SLI Vid card, wait till your able to SLI Multi Mother boards with SLI Vid Cards and  Multi Core CPU's on them,  I really cant wait to get this my self, 

 There are already homes like this being Built and are around, Most have not see or even heard of this But thats the Future, The dest top as we know it to day will merge to the Main frame format,, 

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OregonTrail

You need to read up on Cluster Computing and Thin Clients. What you are describing can be built today for the cost of a few mid-range PCs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_%28computing%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_clients

Heck the VM server could dish up Windows environments to HTPCs to connect to Windows Home Server, it wouldn't be very difficult

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JMG760

I understand that a laptop is portable enough to have all the components that a computer needs to run as well as a screen but most of top high end laptops cost almost a dream desktop machine that have half of the performance, after 1-2 hrs you need to go stationary to give it some more juice. I will always have a desktop that manages all my needs but as long as motherboard makers keep making KICK ASS motherboards, its the heart of it all. 

 

"Let the chips fall where they may"

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I Jedi

Yes, I agree. While the IT industry will always continue to change and evolve from its current state, we're unlikely to see Desktop PC's go anywhere anytime soon. Laptops still cost a helluva lot more money for the high-end, decent ones. Idk, this seems propostrious, to be honest.

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pagen64

Ask the 11 Million plus that play WOW, If they want to give up there PC's. I have built a least 10 PC's for friends and family just for that very reason alone.

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Cooketh

It's a matter of physics. More Room means more power no matter what. Desktop PCs will neevr die. Military bases won't be run on laptops for god sake, and neither will extreme gaming. End of story.

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nekollx

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Enozo73

Desktops will be around for many more years. Too many businesses and educational facilities use them. Overclockers and PC gamers will continue to buy and they are a majority of the market anyways. Laptops are a long way from being as powerful and as price frindly as the desktop PC.

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LatiosXT

Most people like the portability of a laptop. However with the advent of console gaming matching PC gaming in terms of content and sometimes look (yes I know that PC games can do better, but to the average Joe, there's no real discernable difference), desktops don't have much of a bright future. But it's not like they have a bleak future either.

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nhskier4life

Desktops will rule the enthusiast market until laptop components become as readily available, powerful, and as cheap as desktop components. 

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CTskifreak

....but Motherboard Markers doesn't equal Makers :P

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nekollx

 Desktops will always be around, but not always in the way we see them now.

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pilot.blake

I am Building a "portfolio" DeskTop, and slim box, like a U1 server, and a 24" screen. "The Box" is capable of total upgrade to any current hardware, mother boards and vid cards, that lay flat by use of ribbon tape connector cables, even low profile liquid cooling, front load hot swap 14 slots for SSDs, Desktop and Laptop combined, Hay, it maybe Big and perhaps abit heavy, and rquires a electric motor jack just to rise the vidio Screen, or left that attach a 32" screen, but, hey, still protable. If Boxes like this are made avalable, and new layout of hardware to support the home laptop, desktop, server builders like me would enjoy the building of "Flat Boxes" V. Tower Boxes. If Motherboard builders go "Low, Low Profile" U1 style or lower on I/O, Power connnectors, USB, Vidio out, instead of everthing standing vertical, Up, arrange around the edge of the motherboard, like some Intel 4 CPU sloted server boards. Just make them more afordable. it could kick start a new market for the mobo makers.

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nekollx

 i'm think iMac/All in ones will be the way of the future. At least for the low/office/midrange user, probably with a touch screen, hell mabe even a touch keyboard and touchpad/trackpad sort of a laptop with the keyboard and monitor sperated.

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