More About XP Mode for Windows 7

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PsiSoldier

Ok let me point out that if the only reason you are thinking about upgrading to the professional version over the Home premium is because you are afraid some of your XP programs will not work in 7 then it would be kind of stupid to even go with the Professional version instead of the Home premium.

 Why??  Because you probably already have a full version of XP and if you do you can buy a full version of Home premium for the same price as the Professional Upgrade version.

What does that mean?  It means you can upgrade to windows 7 without invalidating your old copy of XP and then dual boot or have XP on one computer and 7 on another and both copies will be valid according to microsoft.   So for the price of an Professional upgrade you instead get Windows 7 and get to keep your old copy of XP which you appearantly would loose if you tied it to an upgrade version of 7.  And I'm pretty sure an actual copy of XP would be more compatible with XP programs then a Virtual XP.  And you get it all for the same price...

 While if you instead pay for an upgrade copy of Windows 7 Professional you will loose your ability to go back to Windows XP or use it on another computer. Seems like a loose loose situation to me.

 So yeah it seems pretty much like a no brainer to me if the XP mode is all you are worried about

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RavenStandsAlone

Q: "If humans are evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"

 

A: I case of failure of the experiment, nature does not want to give up the "fallback" position.

 

These are the InterWebs? Where's the bicycles, babes and beer?

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MeTo

I thought Microsoft learned a lesson guess not. You have to buy a very expensive version Win 7 and have your own copy of XP with SP3. Why not just keep XP SP3 and forgo Win 7? They did it to vista.

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MyMojo

Excellent point! MS not so smart with this move!

 

 

If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?

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Seana7a7

I have a simple solution its XP and if you really want Windows 7 just setup a dual boot.

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anonuser

Virtualbox (free) already does this, and has for some time. This is very dumb move by MS. I thought it was going to be something like OS X did with rosetta, but they are just trying to sell more XP licenses is all. Bah.

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DoctorX

ok... this is nothing than marketing speak for VirtualPC.  If you have to supply your own copy of xp... Then WTF is the difference of downloading virutalpc and loading winxp yourself?

 Or better yet, why not use Virtualbox?  It runs about 98% native speed plus 3D to boot.

 

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xs0u1x

but is it really -that- groundbreaking?

 

 i mean come on, i can get a virtual machine NOW. granted this is geared toward businesses, i really see no need for this to be shipped in home editions.

im not knocking windows 7, im just being realistic.

 have they announced if we'll be able to get a bare bones edition with no extras like virtual machine?

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Marcus_Soperus

Two things about XP Mode make it much more interesting than running Virtual PC 2007 along with a copy of Windows XP:

1. XP Mode supports  (requires) hardware virtualization, which makes for much better performance (VPC 2007 doesn't). It should be noted that you might need to enable hardware virtualization in the BIOS on systems with a suitable processor - it might not already be enabled.

2. XP Mode runs each legacy program in its own virtualized window. With VPC 2007, legacy programs must run inside the virtualized window for the operating system.

For anyone who must rely on fussy legacy software that won't run right under compatibility mode, XP Mode will be a godsend.

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scdlin

What you've mentioned has been done with the currently available virtualization product, such as VirtualBox, for free.

 

For example, VBox has a feature called Seamless Mode where the individual applications run inside the guest operating system appear as individual windows on the host (not completely the same, but works ok).  So this is really nothing new.

 

Also, hardware virtualization (by using AMD-V or Intel's VT-x/VT-d) has been supported by VBox too.  Bear in mind that it is not necessarily faster than software solution, dependent upon the underlying architecture.  Ultimately it is all about the tradeoff of capturing instructions and shifting priviledge levels of the guest OS.  Older processors' hardware solution can impose a huge clock cycle penalty than some clever software solutions.

 

MS should just really put up a very compatible WOW64 (or even in 32-bit Win7, a "WOW32" just to handle all old applications' peculiarities) so to allow all XP applications to run.

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Caboose

 I am absolutely LOVING Windows 7. I don't want to go back to Vista now. The redesigned task bar is awesome! And the new "tab' windows is so nice. Even the smallest thing, such as icon view size in a folder has been tweaked and much nicer. Once XP mode is released, I'll be giving that a go. I might be able to play a few of my old games easily then (Star Trek Armada 1/2 and Final Fantasy VII anyone?).

 I really think that Windows 7 is going to become the new XP. XP changed a lot with how we use an OS, and for the better. Things were easier, more streamlined and smoother. Windows 7 looks to be doing the same thing! I can't wait until the final build is released.

 I think I'm going to use Build 7100 until that time!

 Now ghot, tell us how shitty Windows 7 is, and how Microsoft should scrap it and make it a service pack for Windows XP and stop trying to replace an 8 year old OS that is showing its age! Please tell us all how stupid we are for liking what Microsoft is doing with Windows 7 and how we all suck and are geah for liking Windows 7, even in it's RC state!

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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AndyYankee17

if you're playing a game that's so old it's not compatible with vista or windows 7 I'm sure you're hardware would be fast enough to run it virtualized

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yogurt80

I would hope that anything I've nought which was "vista compatible" is going to be "win 7" compatible as well.  We'll see....  I'm very anxious to try the full version of 7, as long as it gets support and doesn't become the next "ME."

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