Microsoft's Adam Orth Gone Following Twitter Outburst

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jonnyohio

First time hearing of the guy...probably would have been forgotten about in a few weeks. He should have taken vacation, and then should have gone down to the Winchester, had a few pints, and waited for the whole thing to blow over.

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maxeeemum

Please get rid of Ballmer next!

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Aquineas

His comments were insensitive, insulting, and moronic. That doesn't mean his situation was irrecoverable, however. Microsoft and Adam Orth missed a golden opportunity for a PR win here; they could have set up an interactive fan experience in some of the "why would I want to live there" locations; letting the people in those places take out their frustrations on him during a deathmatch session. That way he could have: a) stayed on at his job and learned a valuable lesson, b) eaten some humble pie, c) even had fun in the process.

That being said, I do *NOT* agree with forcing games (SimCity anyone?), nor gaming consoles, into unnatural state of connectedness for the purposes of "enhancing the user experience" (which we all know is a euphemism for preventing secondary game sales and game renting).

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jedisamurai

The dude was fired because he was unprofessional and making the company look bad. Anyone remember the sales phrase "The customer is always right"? Apparently this idiot thought it was a GREAT idea to make fun of HIS OWN CUSTOMERS. Hopefully, he will learn a valuable lesson from his dismissal and do better as the local PC repair shop learning some customer service skills.

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Sonic98

I think it might have been overkill, but like someone said, he is a rep for the company, and someone in that high a position should know how to pick their battles. That being said, I'm not sure I agree with him. I don't think any of them should you to always be connected, especially considering that all 3 consoles required you to buy extra equipment if you wanted to use both a wired and wireless connection. Heck on the original Wii you couldn't even connect to an unsecured network at first.

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hzatiger

as i sit here in afghanistan it would be quite tough to play xbox if it required and always on connection. granted we are a minority but even my house back home in the US my new subdivision doesn't have internet yet either. so id hope they would have a work around of some sort....

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Kelz

Damn, they completely let him go? That seems a little harsh, maybe demoting him or putting him on a suspention but to complete let go of someone in such a high position for an incident on twitter makes me feel like wow, microsofts either been planning this for a while or they're having some troubles internally way deeper.

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jgrimoldy

It's because he's at such a high position that MS let him go. If he'd been an intern or a mailroom clerk, nobody would've really cared what he said; it'd have had little gravitas.

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Slugbait

This is incorrect. If you work the docks at MS and post a pic of Macs, yer getting canned: http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2003/10/23/even-microsoft-wants-g5s/

Joe Marini's tweet looked innocent enough, tho. And he was a great guy to work with, but he also "violated" the company's social media policy. http://allthingsd.com/20110920/microsoft-employee-who-tweeted-about-unreleased-nokia-windows-phone-now-an-ex-employee/

Tolerance at MS isn't low...it's non-existent. No one gets out alive.

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PCLinuxguy

I agree. someone in his high of a position should have known better than to make such trollish and harsh statements on social networking, even more so since he's not some stupid kid in terms of having better Nettiquette

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Scatter

Sad.

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unGOOD0127

Social Darwinism at its finest and most boring. How many careers have died/ been aborted due to an idiotic post on facebook/twitter/myspace/etc.

I'm sorry that I can't feel any pity because he screwed himself. (nor do I find particularly funny [My one-word response is.. Meh.)

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AntiJohnny

If the new xbox does indeed require always on internet to play games, then it was overkill, even though the guy seems like a jerk.

If it doesn't come out with it, then i think it was spot on.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Microsoft is fucking Crazy Town since Gates left.

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FireGarden

I think it is probably overkill. A good talking to by management should have sufficed just to remind him of his responsibilities and to be mindful of the companies reputation. His comments did wind me up - but I think we all make mistakes - just not so publicly.

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pastorbob

+1

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Architek9

The asshole got what he deserved

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Scatter

The problem as I see it is people on the Internet can say things like you just did but if anyone responds while on the job or even off the job if they're known they're fired.

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jgrimoldy

The crucial difference is that he said this as a representative of Microsoft -- a representative connected to the project. If he had made these comments while hiding behind an anonymous pseudonym, nobody would've cared -- even if he did it while on the job.

Freedom of speech (I'm all for it) comes along with freedom to face the ramifications. This guy sounds like a condescending douchebag to me. He could've easily plead his position without being such a cunt.

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nHeroGo

Had it been Steve Jobs who said it, then it would have been a different thing. Steve Jobs would not have lasted 10 minutes in middle management. But that is a "non issue".

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nHeroGo

And the culture inside Microsoft is such that you have to fight for your opinion verbally so hard that you might forget to whom you are speaking. Arrogance spanning from FU-I'm-Fully-Vested to shouting matches. Some say.

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Satchboy

For someone who was advocating always on internet he sure didn't know what that truly meant.

The internet is indeed always on and ready to tar and feather those that don't treat it with fear and respect.

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Business Direct

My opinion? Well since you asked his views are those of the company as a whole and was fired for Microsoft to save face.

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insomnia

One troll down.

Ten trillion to go.

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Straegen

His tweets were meant to be sarcastic but did not come off as such.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

According to him. If he had a history of vocally opposing "always-on", etc., it would be easier to believe the sarcasm angle. However, I haven't seen any proof of that so I find that to be a lie to save face.

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Erris

Microsoft probably feel the same way, but he just said it without any Politically Correct gloss.

Should have known being blatant about the truth would ruffle feathers.

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stradric

Or, you know, the fact that he essentially leaked details about an upcoming product launch publicly on Twitter while also trivializing legitimate concerns from a position of privilege. It's a potentially very costly lapse of judgement at a time when Microsoft really needs to nail the Durango announcement and launch.

To what "truth" are you referring?

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QUINTIX256

https://twitter.com/manveerheir/status/320064992080691200
>A dear friend of mine @adam_orth is getting a lot of flak, some unfairly. Let me say he's one of the good guys and cut him some slack please
https://kevin-dent.squarespace.com/blog/2013/4/11/2460ubpvrvupilqgdthk86v9wcdel7
> Guess what? Even when he pissed me off I recognized the fact that he was a supremely talented guy –way more so that I will ever be.

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jgrimoldy

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jgrimoldy

Being extremely talented does not give a person carte blanche to be a douchebag.

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PCLinuxguy

he may have been talented but that does not always mean bright. if the guy was turly as smart as people claim then he'd not have made any statement to begin with and avoided this crap all together instead of fanning the flames

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praack

most probably got the option to resign and kept his platinum parachute.

so in reality depending on his paygrade is not out of much money - so i won't be shedding any tears- it is not like the guy will be looking to Mc'D's as his next job flipping burgers.

i am only hoping that Microsoft is actually taking a real look at always on as a DRM measure- since this is not possible in much of the country.

unfortunatly it is late in the cycle- so it might not be an option for them to change the new "feature".

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ZayLay

Today's lesson is to think BEFORE you speak, or type that is hehe.

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Leo Scott

So many people think before they speak that we don't get the truth anymore. Do we all need to become politicians?

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LaughingGravy

Expressing an opinion supported by reason and facts is one thing. Publicly dismissing the objections of customers as "drama," and belittling those who live in less-connected areas, is quite another - not to mention the (possible) leak of an unannounced hardware spec.

Making an effort to determine if what you're about to say (or type) is appropriate is not the act of a politician; I'd argue politicians do this not nearly enough. It's just common sense. Despite what the internet teaches us, it is actually possible to express nearly any opinion without being a jerk.

Still, having his job pulled out from under him for this seems rather harsh.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

We certainly don't need to become politicians, but accepting a level of personal accountability for everything that may come out of your mouth is definitely necessary. It's called being socially aware. Making an off-color joke at work in front of people who may be offended by it is a prime example.

I would expect someone at his level to have realized that by now. The worst part for Orth is that this will follow him for a very long time and most definitely affect his future employment.

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DerfMcWoowoo

Justice has indeed been served! I'm guessing his little Twitter tirade is only the peak of a bad personality/work ethic iceberg.

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jgrimoldy

It's safe to say that he was "given the option" of voluntarily resigning. But it really wasn't much of an option. MS most assuredly strong-armed him into voluntarily resigning. He likely could've said, "No, I won't resign," and then MS would have fired or demoted (likely fired) and given him less of a severance package (if any).

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Tyger

Indeed, let us have more devices and games that require an always on connection to use or play...because that worked out SO well for EA and the new Sim City. wtf?

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Sparx10

Or Blizzard with Diablo 3, or Ubisoft with a few of their games..

Until 99.9999% uptime broadband is within reach of the entire population, always-on isn't really a good option. And even then, why would you waste your money having loads of servers just dedicated to DRM to keep your customers "happy"

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jgottberg

If I'm Microsoft, I don't want an employee in upper management that doesn't have thick skin. Someone in his position HAS to be smarter than that. If he can't handle some users flexing their twitter muscles, how is he going to react in a real situation?

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ZX9RDan89

what he said ^

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