Microsoft: Xbox One Available in November for $499

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John Pombrio

I just bought the Amazon preorder for the XBox One Day One Edition to be delivered on December 4th, 2013.

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vrmlbasic

Are the screenshots in the article really from the Xbox One?! Those zombies don't even look as though they're on par with the graphics that a today's midrange PC can deliver.

I didn't expect to see stunning, top-of-the-line graphics from a mobile-class APU but reading this thread, trudging through the rants about how PC GPUs have been outdone, I thought that I might have missed something.

If those screenshots, and the screenshots I've seen elsewhere on the internet, are truly from the Xbox One then I didn't miss a thing and the discreet GPU-bashers here must be smokin' something strong.

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xRadeon

Well, just because you have a good system doesn't mean the devs have actually put good textures on the models and/or have modeled high vertice characters.

We all know this as well, it takes awhile for game devs to start using the new console's power.

Plus I think the Forza screenshot looks pretty nice. :)

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spoonard

@John Pombrio

Spoken like a true armchair analyst! lol

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limitbreaker

Yeah, Sony just steamrolled microsoft with this one. They'll sell a less expensive and much more powerful console that's not restricted in used games. I say it's obvious which generation will lead this one :-)
Microsoft is going to use 8 GB of DDR3 ram with a total of 60GB/sec bandwidth... what was their answer? use some of the APU room that would otherwise be dedicated to GPU cores for 128MB ESRAM that runs at 100GB/sec which if you combine with the ddr3 you can theoretically get 256MB@ 160GB/sec. PS4 will simply have 8GB GDDR5@ 160GB/sec and will have a more powerfull GPU both on the memory front and also on the amount of cores. :-)

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John Pombrio

You cannot talk about console hardware without talking about the Wii. Its specs were terrible in comparison to MS and SONY but outsold them for a long while.
The reason I bought a PS3 was for a Blu-Ray player and not for a gaming console. When Blu-Ray had a meh factor in my movie watching, the PS3 never got used.
As for the price, the difference could be solely for the Kinect. Time will tell if that is enough to offset SONY's superior specs.
I feel SONY's star is in eclipse. They are depending heavily on the movie business and the sales of PS4s for any profit they will make in the next year. Like AMD, they are dropping the price of the PS4 to try to grab market share, a gamble that can cost them.

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Danthrax66

Yes the Wii sold more consoles but the xbox and ps4 sold more games which is where Sony and M$ make money from licensing. The PS3 was sold at a loss for the first 4-5 years because it didn't matter due to making it all back plus some from licensing. Besides no one really played the Wii after the gimmick wore off, and all of the people I know traded that shit in for store credit to buy something that was worth their time. A console can't live on first party titles alone but they can certainly offer an edge over the competition.

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limitbreaker

You're not wrong but if i was a betting man, i would put all my money on the ps4 leading this one. I think the biggest selling point of the wii was its price tag, do you think it would have done even half as well if they sold it at par with the ps3/xbox in price?

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John Pombrio

I had already decided to buy one when it first comes out. The price is reasonable for the hardware inside. With the PS3 gone from my a/v rack, I have the room, network ports, and an extra HDMI port in the receiver.
$60 for Live? Check Amazon, $46.90 for a year card.
As for online access, I can sympathize with the folks that do not have the ability to connect, but there are so many people that can, 78.6% last year and rising fast. Not much downside for MS to insist on some sort of connection (even a mobile hotspot would do).

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vrmlbasic

I'm still at a loss as to why you would truly want this. What does it do that is worthwhile, that 500 dollars + $49.60/year couldn't get you were it otherwise spent?

The price may be reasonable for the hardware inside, but does your assessment of "reasonable" take into account the limited useability of the hardware afforded you by Microsoft?

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John Pombrio

At $120/MONTH, cable TV was a terrible deal and I got rid of it (the cheapest plan is $60/month for some basic OTA channels). If nothing else, Netflix on the XBox360 live gold is a steal in comparison.
Netflix on the 360 looked so much better than on any other media (including my HTPC). I expect good things from the new box besides its ability to play games.

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vrmlbasic

How/why would Netflix look better via the 360 than anything else? I can't say that I've come up with an answer to that lol.

I suppose that you've already explained that you have other reasons for getting the new xbox, reasons that might justify the 500+ USD expenditure and dealing with all the controversial rigmarole that M$ is foisting upon XB1 buyers. Perhaps the problem I'm having is that I just can't fully comprehend the biggest of those reasons: that there are those who would, given access to capable gaming PCs and a console, choose the console; the concept is completely foreign to me. I liken that choice to being offered a Benjamin or a Hamilton and choosing the Hamilton. No one should but yet... ;)

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John Pombrio

I never use consoles, they are for my sons. NEVER got the hang of the controllers, feels so foreign compared to mouse and keyboard.
I too am completely puzzled why Netflix and the XBox360 work so well together, an act of the gods of technology. But its beautiful, crisp, and no dropouts on our 40 inch 1080P TV.

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dgrmouse

John said, "Not much downside for MS to insist on some sort of connection."

Except complete loss of sale to folks like me. They want to put an advertisement-riddled device with a camera and microphone in my house with EULA terms that pretty much let them monitor and report whatever they care to, and I will absolutely never be buying into it.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

LOLemming

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wolfing

I don't care about the always online requirement, my PS3 is always online anyway. My problem is with their restricting the pre-owned game market. Most of the PS3 games I have, I bought for $10-$15 on Gamefly. I highly doubt that they will be able to reach that with developers controlling used game prices (by charging stores for 'reactivating' the games).
And think about it, consoles last what, 7 or 8 years? That makes the Xbox one about $900 compared with $400 or whatever the PS4 will be, when you count $50/year for Xbox Gold.

I see nothing that attracts me to the Xbox. Maybe Microsoft can convince developers to make exclusive games for them considering their used game restrictions, maybe that's their bet (that people will forget the cost once the game they want can only be played in the Xbox). If so, that would make me hate Microsoft even more (and to think only a couple of years ago I loved Microsoft, how things have changed!)

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John Pombrio

I have never bought a used game, I just wait a bit and buy the game when the price has dropped. MS will also have the ability to set up a Steam like service where the game developer can sell the game at a lower cost by a digital download with periodic deep discounts (and huge number of sales). I have not bought a PC game on a disk in years, I would love to do the same on my consoles.

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vrmlbasic

They will, but they've had that capability for some time now with the Xbox 360 and they have yet to do so. They sell games for digital download for 360, granted, but the prices were rather out of touch with reality, last I checked, and they lacked a Steam like sales policy.

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froggz

The always online requirement is a no sale for me, I go to way to many places that have no internet so I might as well carry a cinder block around for entertainment because that's about as useful this thing will be. I know the Military is a small demographic to cater to, compared to the population of the United States, but I know for a fact every single troop, sailor, marine, and Airman I know have a steady paycheck coming in and a nice amount of disposable income to spend on gaming that will not be going into Microsoft pockets if they don't figure something else out.

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amystall

Pros:
Better Graphics
Bluray
Bundled with Kinect (maybe we will see some games that use this without being garbage)

Cons:
Used games
Price
Live subscription (I have to pay more money for playing with other and watch netflix? Nope, even with the games thrown in)
Phone home

I see nothing mentioned that makes it any more appealing than when it was first announced.

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CaptainFabulous

Ummm, nope. Not only is that stupidly overpriced but I'm not goign to reward Microsoft and publishers for their attempt to strip consumers of their rights granted by the First Sale Doctrine.

Just say NO.

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xRadeon

You know, it's not a bad price really. There's been a lot of hate around it, but I'm going for the optimistic approach. I think people will actually be surprised by what it can do.

I mean think about it, you've just got done playing CoD and now you want to watch TV. Instead of having to switch all your stuff over to TV (or in some peoples case, unplug hdmi cables) you just say Xbox watch TV and it goes right over.

I don't know, I think it might be nice to have. Maybe a 400/450 price tag might be nicer, but it does have a kinetic.

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Jaeger_CDN

umm

a $10 switching box from Amazon or a $500 Xbone which does the same thing if you tell it to?

Not to mention that your HD TV likely has alot of the same functions (Twitter, FB, Netflix, etc...) without having to pay a special member's rate for access (Xbox Live) on top of your monthly internet charges?

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xRadeon

But the 'switching box from Amazon' nor your TV can play Halo/CoD, so that's why. Also that's why I don't mind paying the ONCE A YEAR fee of just 50 bucks. Also not to mention your TV usually has a sh*ty interface and/or is painfully slow when using Netflix. That's why I don't mind the Xbox One, something powerful to put behind that nice HD TV....until you hook up a PC of course. ^.^ Also it can do everything your TV can and more when they get apps for it (which is like a million time more likely to happen)

I just think the world hates change right now, maybe it was Obama that did it for us...He messed up and now everybody hates change.... Or maybe everyone just wants their stuff to just work. I don't know, regardless it kind of pointless until they release the dang thing anyways! How do I know that I'm right? And that your side is just retarded thinking?

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Renegade Knight

Plan A. Something that costs about 499 and doesn't have a 50 a year fee.
Plan B. Something that costs about 499 and doesn't have a fee.

Both do about the same thing.

It's an easy choice unless there are must have exclusive games (which for me come out on PC anyway).

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cc3d

$499! I'm all over it? PS4? Guess I'll buy it too!

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Biceps

An xbox only costs $499 and what little privacy you might have remaining. If you buy one of these, enjoy having the NSA checking up on your emotional state when you watch the evening news. Oh, wait, they would never do that.

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praetor_alpha

I guess the only alternative is the PS4. It's not like Sony has ever been epically hacked.

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Fenthic

I think Biceps was more referring to the point of the always connected Kinect camera. Not so much being hacked. Yes the camera has that "privacy mode" but the only real sense of privacy is with no camera connected at all which you cant do.

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Fenthic

Double Post

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HiGHRoLLeR038

wtf, there's a game being debuted called Halo Xbox One..??? wow....

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wolfing

$500 + $50 or so per year for Xbox Gold and more expensive pre-owned games (if at all possible).
Xbox handed the torch in a golden plate to Sony this time, which reportedly will be cheaper, AFAIK still free online services, and freedom of buying pre-owned games. Sony is probably saying "well, that was a freebie" right now.

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Refuge88

I don't think I can stomach the $500 price tag. I might just have to wait a year for it to come down in price.

I figure I can get a good deal on a new system on black friday next year.

Also, I really do have problems with how Microsoft is handling second hand games.

But I won't bother voicing those concerns, as there is nothing that will come from it other than wasting your times. :)

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Carpnter

Neither new console impresses me.

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Glycerin

Rather get a PS4. Get an xbox if you want another cable box, get a PS4 if you want a real next gen console.

I'm gonna stick with my PC. And when the price goes down far enough.... I'm gonna get the GTX 780 :P

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jgottberg

Looks slick but I'm waiting for the PS4 - I don't game a ton anymore so paying the Live subscription would be a waste.

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Hey.That_Dude

Not Terrible, I remeber the PS2 being about that price when it came out. But no, I still don't want one. For $500 I can almost buy a GTX780 which will smack this thing down in 5 seconds flat.

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limitbreaker

well, the downfall of US economy had at least one silver lining. In canada the PS2 was 500$ on release and the ps3 800$, this one will be dollar to dollar for us here :-)

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Glycerin

Uh the PS2 was $299 when it debuted.

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TheFrawg

Using a quick web search, inflation has converted 1999's $299 into about $412. So not that big a difference.

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AbuJaffer

I think he meant PS3 (which was $599).

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Hey.That_Dude

ACK! typos... Thanks for that catch; you're right.

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big_montana

$499? No thanks as it is about $100 more then I expected it to be considering there is now a Kinect in the package. Maybe MS was emboldened by the Amazon pre-sales and decided to bump up the price.

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