Microsoft Tweaks Windows Update's Automatic Restarts In Windows 8

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reutnes

I disabled automagic restarts through the group policy editor on my Windows 7 machine.  I shut down at the end of the day anyways, so I don't feel the need to get haggled all the time.  I like that W8 promises to be more passive about it.

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livebriand

I want the way Windows 7 does it, except without it automatically restarting. Forcing me to restart after 3 days will be annoying, for me at least.

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rb3m

I just set it to nag me again in four hours and restart when I need to take a break. It's never been a problem.

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jawspinkid

I took the Developer's Preview for a test drive. Didn't like it at all. My next computer is going to be a Mac. OSX Lion looks and feels great, and has features benefitting photography workflow. I'll still have to run Windows virtually for some things for some time, but it'll be Windows 7.

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Nimrod

Im a photographer. Please explain to me why i should buy a sub-par machine when for the same money i could buy a high end SB-E computer with all the fixins? Or a Xeon workstation for that matter. My workflow consists of Adobe Camera Raw, Bridge, Lightroom, Photoshop, Proshow and a few other things from time to time.

 

Adobe typically releases their stuff on Windows first as well. New hardware is released on Windows first.

 

I really get sick and tired of people saying that Macs are better for photography. Do you plan on using the stock Mac monitor for editing your photos as well like all those other yuppies? I have to use a mac at school and it just sucks.

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Engelsstaub

Can I take this one? Thanks.

He never said you should buy a Mac. If you get sick and tired of other people saying that Macs are better for photography, you should know that he didn't say that in his post. I think he was basically indicating that the trackpad gestures were more beneficial to his unique workflow. Are you a photographer or a student? Both??

It seemed as though he was saying he just liked it better. We're all entitled to our preferences.

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Nimrod

Correct me if im wrong but he never said anything about a track pad. He said work flow. That pretty much means hes using iPhoto or some other such crap as the Mac has nothing special to offer for photography in terms of its "work flow".

Im a part time student just taking classes in this and that and also a photographer.

And you know, i GET that people might just "like it better." But in the real world i see $ and %. And if i can spend the same amount of $ for a high end mac and get a lot more % out of PC hardware with Windows7 then why bother? The truth is that i WANT to like Macs. It would be nice if i didnt cringe at the thought of the computers people are working on. But i need some convincing.

 

His post was about not liking Windows8. I dont really plan on on moving to W8 either unless the new optimizations are worth it. But i just cant see myself spending the same huge amounts of money (3K) on a computer and getting LESS hardware when i already wish i could have more. For the cost of a Mac with the same hardware i could buy a 5D or some L lenses

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Engelsstaub

You're not wrong, per se. He said Lion had features benefitting photography workflow. I'm assuming, but I'm reasonalbly certain, that would mainly involve gestures on the trackpad. As a user of botn Snow Leopard and Lion I can tell you that that's one of the main new things along with full-screen apps. (This is why Apple markets the trackpad as a mouse-replacement for the desktop. It is IMO that good.)

iPhoto is just basic photo orgainzation software. Aperture is more for photographers though it couldn't replace Photoshop (which you likely have for Windows. PS is no single reason for owning a Mac.)

The expense of a Macintosh is a valid point against it. I know this site/mag is dedicated to powerusers and PC gamers. I admit one gets a far better value with a PC in many instances. I have a PC that does heavy-lifting and Skyrim. Lately now that's all it is: a specialized machine for certain tasks. For general use, efficiency, and portability I find my MBP to be the go-to.

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jawspinkid

Thanks Engelsstaub,

Yes, the trackpad gestures were a tipping point for me. I've been a winows user since my 1st computer in 1997, and Windows 7 is solid and works well for me, but Windows 8 looks and feels wrong for the type of work I do. I tend to read up and study and self educate before jumping into something. Also, my current computer was hand-built by me, and performs exceptionally. We have an Apple store in my city, and I've dropped in, asked questions, tried out an iMac, my wife & I attended a 1 hour workshop, and there are programs and features that would benefit her as an educator as well. One thing the Apple store Workshop leader mentioned, was that Adobe writes Photoshop on Macs, so it performs and is optimized for use on a Mac. Some of the latter info may be biased, but I found that to be true when I took Photoshop classes at our local Comm. College, and had to use iMacs. I recently had some issues with PS on my PC, and had to de-activate, uninstall and reinstall. It ran a lot smoother on the iMacs, in my opinion. As you pointed out, I never said anyone should switch over. My decision is based on my needs, experience, convenience, and researce and self education. I also have some photographer friends who have used Macs for years, and swear by them and have answered some Qs. I use a Windows 7 laptop at work, but for personal use moving forward, I think I'll benefit more with an iMac. And after attending the workshop, my wife agreed with me. I didn't sell or try to talk her into it. After seeing the features and knowing what I do, she could see the benefits as well. And she is also a Windows user. And I'm not completely moving away from Windows. I'll still have to run a virtual Windows XP to run a film scanner I have, and Windows 7 for other software I either can't get on macs, or need time to find alternative software. As Nimrod pointed out, yes, Macs are a little pricier, but for my needs, I can get the best of both worlds by running Windows virtually, while having the functionality of available features on a Mac. It's not my intention to tell anyone what's best. Everyone has their likes and dislikes on both sides, and I have respect for people's opinions on both sides of the fence, and I personally don't see a problem utilizing the best of both worlds, if I will benefit from it.

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Engelsstaub

That's where I was at as well. Windows 7 is pretty decent, but OSX is way better for me. (Anything but gaming, obviously.) I didn't think it would work out so well, but I actually managed to find an app to replace every critical Windows app. 

The resale value on your Mac will be much higher than even an Alienware. I know this from experience. If it works for you, go with it ;)

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Cregan89

Holy fu**, people on this website are actually retarded... If you have a system where shutting it down within 3 days is an issue, then obviously you shouldn't have automatic updates enabled on that system!

And for those complaining about interupting their workflow yet didn't read the article (I'm going to assume 99% of you): "Having a restart notification or dialog pop up in the middle of an important presentation, a game or a movie is not a pleasant situation, to say the least. When attempting to automatically restart the PC, if you are in presentation mode, playing a game, or watching a movie full-screen, WU detects this state, and delays the automatic restart until the next available opportune moment".

Also, for those complaining about loosing the state of all the programs they had running, the Windows 8 Metro framework was designed with this in mind. Metro apps keep their state when they're closed. And for desktop apps, Windows has included a "Windows Restart Manager" API since Vista which allows applications to keep their state on restart. It's unfortunate that very few desktop applications take advantage of the API, but you can't blame Windows for not providing the ability to do so. And if it's a collection of web page tabs you don't want to loose, I'm pretty sure every major browser has some sort of session manager plug-in that will let you save your tabs.

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pocketdrummer

"so you won’t have to worry about a prompt interrupting you in the midst of a streaming movie – or an important business presentation."

Yes, it'll wait for 3 days and then ruin your next business presentation with a "you have 15 mins to save" dialog message. MUCH BETTER!

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bautrey

Its wonderful when your playing BF3 happily and then Windows Update decides, "hey lets screw this guy over", and everything goes off......  then I'm pissed.

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biggiebob12345

I don't like rebooting not because I'm busy gaming, but because I'll often have dozens of windows open that I don't want closed (research info for ex. that I don't want to find again or save offline).

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pocketdrummer

There needs to be an option to DISABLE THE $^@&%(^#$ AUTO RESTART ALTOGETHER!

If I want to download an update and wait 6 months to install it, that's my choice because it's MY COMPUTER!!! What if I'm in the middle of rendering something that will take 5 days and windows decides 1 day in that I have to restart the computer? How am I supposed to save that in 15 minutes if it's going to take another 4 days to render!?

This is looking to be the worst version of windows, yet. They've been slowly disintegrating the control panel to make it as hard as possible to find the right place to adjust the right settings. They've removed the start menu which allowed for quick access to applications through search and replaced it with a bloated, full screen replacement and breaks work flow entirely. Instead of improving upon Win+tab to make it easier to quickly find the program you need, they replace it with a weird page flipping nonsense. You can't just hit win+tab and visually see what's running, no, you just tab through full-screen apps.

The performance tweaks are great, but they can't save this OS from being the biggest step back in usability since netbooks.

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firefox91

If it takes me 3 days to get around to a reboot, I really need to get off the damn computer all together.

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Shalbatana

Forget restarts, I need them to tweak the unexpected "please don't unplug or power off your computer until the updates are finished installing" issue.

It's gotten me more than once as I"m pulling my laptop to run out the door after work.

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CatherineMcClarey

HP does an "automated tuneup" on my desktop computer on the last day of each month - but invariably starts it in the middle of the day when I'm trying to use it for something else.  (And it doesn't warn you until after it's started that you shouldn't be doing anything else on the computer while it's going on.  And then half the time it freezes mid-tuneup, whether you shut down everything else immediately when it started or not . . . :( )

And then there's Avast, which most of the time is a superb, trouble-free antivirus program -- until you try scheduling a "boot-time scan."  One expects boot-time scans to take a very long time, so you'd think that starting them at bedtime to run overnight would be a great idea -- until you check the computer first thing next morning to find that it's waited patiently all night for you to give it instructions on what to do with the first virus it found, very early on in the scan.  (I should check the Avast help screens & support forums to see if there's a way to set the preferences on the boot-time scan in advance, so that, when the scan finds a virus, it will "delete them all (& let _____ sort them out)".)

As to being nagged for 3 days once a month to restart the computer to let updates be installed, that won't be a problem at our house, since all family members have been trained to turn off their computer before they go to bed each night.  We've mostly been desktop computer users thus far (with the exception of my oldest's laptop at college), so we haven't yet had situations where we wanted to move a computer before it had finished installing updates.  That dilemma may start happening for us soon, though, since my teen daughter & I will both be getting laptops for Christmas.

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SirFrag

I simply don't understand why people don't hibernate notebooks. Or sleep. But hibernation is faster than a restart, starts where you left off, and won't install updates when you go into it. I still laugh every time I see someone shut down a notebook...

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lostcause64

Amen to that!!

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TechNinja49

Ditto

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