Microsoft Slips Launch Details of Windows 8

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Sparx10

Perhaps if Windows was rewritten from the ground up, removing all these useless remains from windows 98, XP and Vista, then it might be worth some money. But as of now, buying a new (revamped) OS every 2 years is quite a pain, in terms of money, but also having to reinstall your whole OS again, get all your applications installed, set your settings, etc.

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Lhot

thats after paying 200-300 dolloars for an OS he should'nt have to "do reasearch"  Windows...ANY version doesn't NEED to generate 0x.... error codes...it could just as easily explain in plain english what the problems is...and...from past experience  "reasearching" 0x....error codes is usually a circle jerk around numerous un updated MS pages.  The guy has a valid point.  All consumers are not coders and shouldn't have to spend hours researching eror/stop codes.  The event viewer in all Windows OS's isn't that helpful either.  Sure it gives you an event ID, but that again simply leads you on a merry chase through reams of MS white papers...most too technical for the average consumer.

Duh...windows explorer has encountered an error and needs to close....great...like that wasn't obvious...just maybe....one day...MS will decide to just include a 0x.... decoder ring or Event viewer error ID decoder.   Please don't mention the Windows troubleshooter..as that is just a useless time waster and always ends up with "soory the troubleshooter cannot resolve this issue"  big help there  MS.

 

 

 

 

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Nimrod

No. Im not buying a nother god damn copy of Windows as long as it still crashes with errors AND DOESNT TELL YOU WHAT THE FKING ERROR IS. I literaly get popups that say a program has crashed, while the program (game) is still running just fine. Closing the pop up of course crashes the game.

 

I am truly mystified about some of the more idiotic things in W7. If i can install steam that has its own store, theres no reason MS cant migrate this illusive app store to W7, or even XP for that matter. And why the f do i need facial reconition software?

 

W7 might be a LOT better than XP. But at its heart, its still just crumy old windows with idiotic problems that make me want to throw my computer out the damn window.

 

They need to focus a lore more on fixing these mind fk problems than on adding new features.

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Caboose

You know, every event generates an event report which you can access. Right click Computer, left click Manage, expand Event Viewer, expand Windows Logs, and look for what you need. If Windows itself crashes, a crash report is generated, and you get a 0x error code, and usually information that can help you repair whatever caused the crash. Research before you get all pissy!

Facial recognition is a maybe, also you don't have to use it. Thats like bitching because your car comes with an AM/FM radio when all you're going to do is play CD's. It's not like you're being forced to use it!

As for the app store, Steam's app store is for... Steam games. A Windows app store will be for... Windows apps (and I'm sure they'll tie in the GFWL store too). For all you know there will be a web version available to previous OS editions. And Steam is it's own application that is both an online store, as well as a game launcher and a social group.

You know, for every issue, there is a solution (No LHot, the solution is NOT staying with Windows XP for ever and ever). You need to calm down and do a little research. Doesn't matter if it's Win7, Vista, WinXP, MacOS or any flavour of Linux. Getting all worked up and pissy over little things will do nothing but raise your blood pressure and increase your chances of a heart attack! Each OS has always had certain features and functions that are hidden in the background that you don't have to use if you don't want to/need to.

Myself and many others, have been running Windows 7 since the beta days without issues. Sometimes you need to look at your own hardware. If Windows 7 makes you that angry, maybe it's time you get a Mac or load Linux on to your PC...

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Lhot

...and those 240 mill licenses can be used for xp, vista and win7 as long as u have legal Win 7 copy...so...the 240 mill number means absolutely nothing.   You really should read all the topics posted at MAX PC and you'd already know this  :/

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rpcblast

New OS doesnt mean old one os obsolete.  Windows XP is still being sold, and for most things still works fine.  Windows Vista doesnt lack that much that 7 provides.  Heck theres still the possibility that Windows XP will be available in 2015, possibly even 2020.  Why is it a bad thing if MS offers a new OS more frequently?  I do however hope they change the numbering convention to match...

IE windows 7 = NT 6.1, vista  = NT 6.0, etc..  Would be nice if windows 8 became version 8.0, not 7.0

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Sparx10

Actually, MaximumPC reported (yesterday I think) that Windows XP is no longer allowed to be pre-installed on computers, so I doubt you can walk into a store and buy a copy either (like they'd even have any anways).

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Jelson

So microsoft will be using numbers for there OS from now on, 7 and now 8,....right. i for one will be happy to wait until they pull the plug on Xp, before i up grade. By then Windows 10 should be out, I think i'll up grade to that one.

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Lhot

....a long walk off a short pier.  If they continue in the vein theyhave been they are gonna covert the world to LINUX....which has a 18 month cycle and is free.  With all the requirements  Windows piles on Game Devs...I'm sure they too are getting tired of it...they could easily convert their games to run on Linux w/o the aid of WINE.  I'm surprised they haven't already.

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oldobamaliar

240 million copies of win. 7 in one year. sounds like poeple are running to linux in droves to me. ass

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Caboose

I hope it's not in 2yrs. They'd be adopting the Apple method of OS releases then!

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domo

Everything Windows is fail. Ballmer is god!

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strykyr

I supposedly can already log in to windows via facial recognition.  A little piece of software from Asus.  I barely played with it when I first got the laptop and couldn't quite get it to work right.  Now I just use a password so filesharing between my wifes and my laptop and my tower work the way I'm used to since her laptop has Vista Ultimate on it with no homegroup.  That's what they need to be doing is geting homegroup in vista.

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big_montana

But your facial recognition software is not natively built into Windows, it is probably Asus' own proprietary software, like Lenovos' Veriface facial recognition software.

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Blues22475

It were to be released just two years from now, that would be a big fail. The reason I say that is because Windows 7 has barely been out long enough. Granted, Windows Vista was sort of the same way, but I can overlook that because Windows Vista was a failure of an operating system. People are just now being forced to Upgrade to Windows 7 and get used to it. If Windows 8 is going to be a different GUI then this could pretty much crap on the head of new Windows 7 users as well as folks who like Windows 7.

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big_montana

MS has been on a three year release schedule with their office suite, they decided to push their OS to teh same schedule. Win 7 came three years after Vista and now Win 8 will be three years after Win 7. Get used to it. I would rather see a 5 year schedule on both office and Windows as most users would skip every other release

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I Jedi

Microsoft is a company, like any other. And like all companies, they are constantly trying to find ways of making new revenue. Do you honestly believe that in two years from now, Windows 7 is going to continue to sell like hotcakes, as it is now? The answer is no, and with Microsoft's main source-of-income coming from the Windows platform, they have to develop new software to keep the income coming. Not to mention that technology is rapidly changing, and what was new and great a month ago, has almost certainly been replaced with something better and faster in a lab somewhere when we talk about technology/hardware. What everyone seems to be forgetting is that Microsoft isn't forcing you to upgrade to their next version of Windows, and some people skip every other launch; such as the case with Windows XP users going directly to Windows 7. Also, Microsoft has continued to support older OS's with continued security updates, and service updates, even though these old OS are no longer selling/main source of income for their platform. You don't like the fact that your hot, new OS is now obsolete? Get over it. Windows 8, so far, only offers several advantages over Windows 7, such as faster boot times. There is nothing significant, in my opinion, to upgrade to Windows 8, yet. The truth is that Windows 7 is so popular, that it may very well succede as being the OS of choice for tech companies to design around for years to come. Hell, I still see newly released games with Windows XP support built into them.

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Blues22475

"You don't like the fact that your hot, new OS is now obsolete?"

I couldn't really care if has become obsolete because I would be forced to update my OS anyway. I am going to have to shovel out more cash just to get another Windows OS. ll the other points are valid, but to release an OS when the previous OS has barely been out for a couple of years is stupid regardless of what new "enhancements" this new OS is supposed to provide. I am willing to be some can just be provided as a Service Pack as opposed to a full blown new OS release.

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I Jedi

Well, unfortunately, the tech. industry isn't like the car industry. Where progress being made is 10x slower, and your purchase can literally last you 20 years, if you invest in it. If you wanted an OS that lasted a lot longer, you should have been around in the 1970s/early 80s. My point IS valid because Microsoft is a company, and they have to find new ways to rack in the money to keep their business going strong. Again, Microsoft is not "forcing" you to do anything. There are people out there who are still running Windows ME. When you can prove to me that Microsoft is pointing a gun to your head, forcing you to update, then I will capitulate to your ideal of "forced" upgrading.

Oh, and if you don't want to petty up the $250 dollars every 2 years to get Microsoft's new OS, you could always become a Linux whore. You'll get all the free updates/upgrades you could ever want.

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And if by "forced" upgrade, you somehow mean Windows Vista. That's your problem. You should have waited a month or two before making the jump to Windows Vista, so that you could see how the OS was doing in the wild. If you decided to make the upgrade to Windows Vista, found out you got fucked, and felt forced to move onto Windows 7, let me be the first to state you weren't forced. You simply lacked the patience to wait to see how a new OS was doing in the public. I waited for Windows 7 for nearly a year before upgrading from Windows Vista, and so far I'm very happy with my upgrade.

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Blues22475

I already said your point is valid, you don't need to reiterate it as it's pointless. Since Microsoft is already forcing users to upgrade to Windows 7 (or to XP SP3 then eventually 7 in terms of support and updates) as it is, it's liable that they're going to do it again. Just because did it once doesn't mean they won't do again, but just because they did it once doesn't mean they will do it again either (this is why I see your point isn't valid instead of making nonsense of your response) Because of the possiblity that it could happen, that's why I am saying "Microsoft will force...update to Windows 8". Don't get me wrong, I never said in the past that Microsoft forced people to upgrade in the past (mainly technology and the support issue has obviously). I was referring to the XP Pro/Home SP2 system.

I never got Windows Vista. Your second paragraph does not apply to me therefore I won't address it all that much. I stayed on Windows XP Pro x-64 until Windows 7.

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I Jedi

I'm sorry, I'm lost in what you are trying to tell me here. Honestly, I am because what you said makes no sense to me.

"Since Microsoft is already forcing users to upgrade to Windows 7 (or to XP SP3 then eventually 7 in terms of support and updates) as it is," - Blues22475

Are you telling me that Windows XP users are being forced to download security/package updates that include parts of Windows 7 in them?  Honestly, I would like to hear more about why this is so because I've never heard of Microsoft giving XP years the ability to upgrade to Windows 7 through security/package updates.

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Blues22475

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lunchbox73

Yuck. Way too soon for Windows 8 flame wars folks. People are just finally stopping to bitch about Vista.

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