Microsoft Plans to Kill the Aero UI Prior To Final Windows 8 Release

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ThunderBolt

How about instead of getting rid of it, give the end user a choice. brilliant.

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TsunamiZ

good. i was sick of windows 7's blue tinted EVERYTHING.

hopefully in windows 8, there will be color options to make the interface look dark black with light white text.

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califrag

I find it all very funny.

W8 is the Windows BOB for the new Generation.

Management at MS have a collective brain fart and decide that rather than making a dedicated OS for tablets/phones and heaven-forbid a second and more complex OS for the more complex computer - (do you think they get that? That a PC is more complex and more powerful than a cellphone?) - is the way to go so they can save money, and they actually expect all to genuflect and immediately change to Windows BOB 8.0.

All the MS staffers writing in to slag MaximumPC and anyone daring to call foul on MS for their early-onset Alzheimer's and collective descent into madness should realize that as soon as they admit they work for MS in whatever capacity, they identify any following comments from them as simple attempts to justify the stupidity that is coming from MS management.

I never used Windows BOB and I never used Vista and see no reason to purchase a "placeholder" OS while waiting for MS to come out with a real operating system for the PC. I went from Windows 3.1 to 95, 98, XP for many years - until just last year actually when I changed to Win7 SP1 (I don't like being an unpaid Beta tester so of course no changing until at least half the bugs were found by the unpaid Beta testers) and there does seem to be one continuing theme in all of them...an OS that can utilize the power of a personal computer.

Windows 8 - isn't.

It isn't a personal computer operating system;
It isn't attractive;
It isn't intuitive;
It isn't useful.

Windows 8 is:

A cellphone app;
A tablet app;
Aimed at saving MS money.

So put it on cellphones or put it on tablets, but for a computer with enough power to harvest the north 40, Windows 8 is about as useful as a milk bucket under a bull...and about as attractive a visual as well.

Windows 7 will do me just fine on my monster rig...and of course, Android on my cellphone and tablet...for at least the next 5 or 6 years and by then MS will likely have brought out Windows 10 and it will be more like an intuitive, effective, attractive and useful OS...at least, after Service Pack 1.

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Meat_Juice

Well said.

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Cregan89

100 negative comments just because Microsoft is removing transparent window chrome in favour of cleaner matte chrome? You guys are hilarious.

You guys could all actually benefit from reading the 10,000+ word blog, then you could actually understand what goes into making these kind of design decisions. It also makes fun of people like you by going into how people complained about various physical interface and UI changes since the Windows 1.0 days, which have largely shaped how computers function today. Most hilarious of these examples include people claiming that the mouse was 'gimmicky' and how despite having the word 'Start' right on it, user's complained how undiscoverable this new context menu was. They even give a link to a pretty funny post from the Windows 95 days of a user complaining how developer's could have possibly thought that the 'Start button' was a good idea (http://www.edbott.com/weblog/2012/03/why-do-the-windows-developers-feel-this-new-way-is-an-advantage/).

As far as the new theme goes, that screenshot shows the interface still in development and is still pretty rough. For a better example of where the new theme is headed take a look at the Office 15 pre-beta screenshots (http://www.winsupersite.com/article/office/microsoft-office-15-preview-142569). I think the majority of people will agree that Office 15 so far looks significantly prettier and more functional than Office 2010. Aero is 6 years old and that fake glass look is outdated and gimmicky. Microsoft thinks (and I tend to agree) that the days of electronics and PC's emulating tangible objects (like the fake aluminium, fake texture's, fake paper, and fake book interface's that Apple loves) are outdated, ugly, and tacky. A digital address book shouldn't look like an actual paper address book. That interface design is so limiting and outdated. It's time for digital to look digital, be comfortable and proud to be a collection of 1's and 0's, and then take advantage of all that pure digital interface has to offer. Not try to imitate glass, or be restricted to the design of a paper address book.

Oh, and good work MaximumPC in feeding the fire by nitpicking the controversial posts and controversial text from the Building Windows 8 Blog, and then pairing those with big sensationalist titles. The actual post from the blog is called 'Creating the Windows 8 User Experience' and the move away from the Aero theme is but a small fraction of the actual blog post. Instead, why don't you post about the things that are actually important to the MaximumPC community, like Microsoft's clear commitment to both the Metro Interface and the Desktop Interface as described elsewhere in this very same post, or how about the very next post on the Building Windows 8 Blog about Windows 8's drastically improved multiple monitor support? (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/21/enhancing-windows-8-for-multiple-monitors.aspx)

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Meat_Juice

Your loyalty to MS is admirable. Your words are certainly consistent with that of a company that lacks meaningful competition. Your statement lacks insight into and respect for the opinions of those that know and appreciate an operating system a little more than Joe or Suzy Average.

I have always been eager to adapt the latest OS. With that in mind I'm both disappointed and frustrated that there's not even a half ass reason to purchase Windows 8. While you've made it clear that what other people think means nothing to you, for what it's worth you can count me as one more hilarious and low brow MaxPC reader who will not adapt this tablet OS for his PC.

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maxeeemum

Just like the other Microsoft employees that comment here this app developer sees all the possible profit for Windows 8 going up in smoke.

Win8 will be a fiasco! The W8 tablets will sell as good as the Zune did to the iPod. And the desktop PC market will suffer big time.

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maxeeemum

You Sir "FlamerPC" are indeed the fool!

Do you actually read your insult ridden comments!

If you want to exchange views I have no problem but you are obvious above the rest of us here. So I don't know why you bother to come down from your cloud to bother to address the dumb low class people here.

Since you know everything and are always right I cannot be bothered to convince you otherwise. But the facts still remain Win8 is going no where and there is nothing you or MS employees or stock holders can do about it.

You can always tell who the real morons are by the number of posts (15-20) out of 100 plus to try to prove their point. But the super morons not only go post crazy but they insult and demean.

So once again please STFU AH! Have a nice day!

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maxeeemum

Post #17

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Someone at Microsoft needs to get the axe, and soon, before the company craps itself to death. Everything they are doing is short-sighted, me-too nonsense. They must expect Facebook-like advertising revenue to replace the money businesses spend on their operating systems.

We are all just cattle being led to slaughter?

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eday_2010

That's disappointing. I like Aero, and how Windows 8 CP looks. It would be nice if they left it in as an option you had to turn on, but I don't think this will really be a big deal for me.

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Dustn525

So they think that by making it look like Windows 3.1, it is an upgrade? What an awful looking default color scheme.

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lloyd claycomb

This really makes sense, myself have learned a lot from article, thank you for sharing. I like it so much.
lloyd claycomb

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Oh, dear God....

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chinomon

well for me Aero was a big deal for me, I will miss that "window, Tab function" =(

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Greg4422

A year ago I was very excited about Windows 8. Once the Dev preview was released I remained optimistic and made attempts to use it as a daily driver...but kept being pulled back to safety and security of Windows 7...as the months passed and we begin to learn more about what would and would not be in Windows 8 my once "excitement" waned to indifference and the consumer preview passed without so much as a glance. I was still interested in seeing the release candidate preview...but this story is killing even that last remaining hope for Window 8. As things stand now...I see absolutely no reason for current Windows 7 users to "ever" migrate to Windows 8...and will skip this OS release completely.

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jtrpop

They lost me at "pay for Pro + extra $ add on pack for Media Center" over my current Windows 7 Home Premium with Media Center. Now they want to make Windows look bland? I'm not paying to "upgrade" to downgrade.

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loozer

How does making a UI square and white help it "recede into the background." Doesn't transparent glass do that BY DEFINITION?

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BlazePC

Go back to that Fisher Price what-ever-it-is computing thing you are accustomed to using.

Problem solved!

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maxeeemum

Why don't you STFU AH!

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maxeeemum

Come on "FlamerPC" don't you have some more stupid comments to make about "butt-hurt". I'm waiting for more of your stupid comments of your favorite position.

Where are you? I'm getting lonely!

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RtDK

picardfacepalm.jpg

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loozer

I was loving the windows 8 CP, but if they kill aero, I will be DEVASTATED.

Seriously, Aero is undeniably the best looking windowed UI available.

I was going to buy win8, but without aero glass, I might as well go back to XP.

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imagonex

Personally, I like it. I know some won't. I like it because it gets rid of all the unecessary gaudy eye candy that serves no functional purpose. I like the square windows because you can maximize your desktop space which is beneficial in a workstation and office environment.

I like it because it's efficient and better adapted for percetion rather than visual eye-candy stimulus. Personally, I won't miss Aero. I don't care about a window being animated, gradients and all the non-functional eye fluff. If some insist on having full-blown FX happening on their desktop, get a UI mod or build a PC with KDE or Gnome with all the OpenGL candy you want. It's like putting stickers on a car, it won't make it go faster.

I'm sure there will be some customization available.

Every single time these changes happens I always find it entertaining to see how some (not all) bark and shout like someone's just raided their garden or scratched their car. How dare they! It happens all the time. Same from 3.1 to Windows 7. Every single time. It's always the end of the world. Then...when Windows 10 comes out, URGH! When couldn't they keep it nice and clean like Windows 8! Man! Back in the day they knew how to make them, man!

No, seriously, I'm fine with this UI. Clean, functional, and no unecessary, non-functional eye-candy semantics.

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loozer

Did you not notice that you can disable aero in less than 5 seconds if you don't like it?

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imagonex

Really?! You can disable it?! NO...WAAAAY! GET OUT! OH-MY-GOD! All this time working in Aero! You saved my life! I LOVE YOU!

Seriously, duuuuUUUuuh?! Of course I know you can disable it! Helloooo?! Although, I'm not sure if you can do it in 5 seconds or less. Never timed myself. windows key+break, advanced system settings, advanced tab, visual effects, click. 5 seconds? Maybe. Then again, who cares.

How odd, though, the same crowd barks when desktop compositing of sorts is shown in Apple's OS-X or Linux.

When I'm working or gaming, I couldn't care one drop of urine about all the unecessary desktop eye-candy. Couldn't care less about it.

My point was about liking or not liking the UI for Windows 8 desktop and the diva reactions of geek facing cyclical change in the Windows OS incrementations. I've seen them all, heard them all. Waah, wah, wah!

Again, I think the Windows 8 UI has improved semantics and better optimization for visual perception and ergonomics, if we can call it that. Again, when Windows 10 comes out, we'll hear it all over again.

If people want unecessary visual fluff that brings nothing to performance and/or productivity, fine, turn on all the trite and trivial useless GUI eye-candy. Again, I'm sure they'll offer some sort of customization.

Personally, drop shadows, translucency, desktop animation and all that jazz adds nothing in performance or productivity in any of my software and/or games.

I guess people can always get OS-X or some Linux distro with all the candy-coated visual fluff if they insist on it.

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SPreston2001

Exactly! Its about OPTIONS!! Most people like Aero and eye candy. You dont make progress by making things look worse than what they used to. A big part of peoples judgement is based on what they SEE!! Give us OPTIONS microsoft! A option to turn off metro, a option to enable Aero etc. But my mind is made up, im sticking with Win7.

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imagonex

I'm sure they'll offer some sort of customization.

In engineering offices, studios and other types of work environment, I don't think that crowd is too concerned about the desktop compositing and windows animations.

For some consumers, such as you, it might be an option you will enjoy. I'm sure Microsoft is aware of.

As far as sticking with WIN7, meh, that's a big ol' pile of B.S. Doubt it...just like the other millions and millions who were never, ever, ever going to go from XP to WIN7! They'll have to pry it from my dead body! Yawn...

Personally, I don't think it looks worst. I think it's more efficient and better optimized for visual task(s). The semantics appear to be better engineered and optimized in my opinion.

Anyways, for you and others, I'm sure Microsoft will offer some sort compositing desktop and hardware acceleration for all the bells and whistles GUI eye-candy.

There's also the issue of newer, faster and more powerful hardware. OS incrementations tend to follow these...ahum...as did 3.1 to WIN7...on up.

When the newer hardware comes out and requires WIN8, I'm sure many will jump ship. Then we'll hear stuff like, "OMFG! WIN8 totally kicks posterior! YOU should, like, totally get it, dude! WIN7 s__ks donkey's...ahum."

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Meat_Juice

But yet another reason not to buy 8.

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Ghostryderflyby

I'm right there with you. Add yet 1 more reason to the long list not to upgrade. Microsoft also has the same problem as the original Star Trek series movies. Star Trek 1 suck. 2 awesome. 3 suck, 4 awesome, 5 suck, 6 awesome. Win 98 awesome, Win ME suck, Win XP awesome, Win Vista suck, Win 7 awesome, Win 8.... I'm pretty sure a suck is going to be appropriate based on everything I've read about the OS. I will wait for Win 9 and happily enjoy my kick ass Win 7 OS for now.

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BlazePC

I can't say I am not a bit skeptical about Win 8 as far as the comparisons to Vista or ME go...but...dispense with the massive butt-hurt overload to the rest of you knuckleheads who moan and groan about the Metro layer.
You do realize that there is a Win 7 style for desktops should you choose to not use the Metro view, right? I mean seriously, reading should be fundamental but when MaxPC goes the extra mile with the "picture book" route for you illiterate types all you can do is butt-hurt more?

Wake up. Look at the "pictures" inserted in the story bozos.

LMAO

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maxeeemum

Hey "FlamerPC" why don't you go see your boyfriend if you want some "butt-hurt"! Arrogant POS!

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Blues22475

I personally enjoy Aero myself, then again I am not all about "best performance" either. Most customers I have serviced here in the shop have Aero turned on by default. Half of them don't really care while a small amount actually are using Windows 7 classic views.

Yes, Windows 8 is going to host a ton of improvements, but why do we have to basically re-learn things again? You do already know humanity hates change do you not? In desktop situations I see this being a problem. In tablet solutions I do not considering that alot of the features seem to be geared towards the tablets.

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BlazePC

..."but why do we have to basically re-learn things again?"

Who said you have to?

Win 7 will be supported for years.

And why the butt-hurt?

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Blues22475

Butthurt over what exactly? There's no reason for me to be considering I am just going to stick with Windows 7 xD.

So it appears the others are right: you are not capable of reading. Fail troll is fail.

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BlazePC

If you're in the business of fixing and/or building computers and this whole Win 8 thing has you butt-hurt about "re-learning things again" you are in the wrong line of work. So much for your "no reason for me to be considering" it rationale.

People these days...

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Blues22475

Over that? Not really. lol Like I said before, I couldn't care less about Windows 8. Even if I have to relearn it for my job, it's for my job, not for because I like Windows 8.

Also, other reasons why I am "butt hurt" over Windows 8 (i.e. I think some features are utterly stupid):

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/8_things_we_hate_about_windows_841

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/vlc_offers_free_dvd_player_why_can%E2%80%99t_microsoft

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BlazePC

Nice editing Bro!
BTW, you switch hit worse than minor leaguer.
Fix that...

My advice to you pal is this; If you are going to spout off about the "customer experience" like a glorified guru, take it to a blog-site that actually matters. You'll be laughed off the stage quicker than you will know what to do with. That'll learn ya! That said and and to repeat, Captain Obvious, statements like this about "we" and "humanity" make you look like a total idiot after what you just responded with. Back to the workbench with you fool. There's a paycheck in your future (hopefully):

"...but why do we have to basically re-learn things again? You do already know humanity hates change do you not?"

In case you weren't paying attention, I just rearranged your sock drawer. Don't freak out though, I know how much you "hate" change.

Geezus, it's only a freaking operating system.
Don't lose sleep over it
And fine more appropriate substitutions for the word Hate.
Peace Out!

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Blues22475

I am glad you consider me a Guru as I did not even try to come off as that XD

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BlazePC

Cool story Bro!

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warptek2010

You're point would be a valid one if it were not for the fact that the article is about the AERO interface being killed off in the final release making Win 7 style desktops not possible without a 3rd party solution. Perhaps you need to re-read, sir?

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BlazePC

With all due respect, please read the comments in aggregate.
My comment was directed squarely at the butt-hurt types that moan and groan about Metro.

'Aero =/= Windows 7 desktop exclusively knuckles' as noted below.
Aero is a style. Windows as a traditional format still remain.
There's a difference.

"...making Win 7 style desktops not possible without a 3rd party solution." Say What?

No further comment.
Peace Out!

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ApathyCurve

BlazePC bleated: "You do realize that there is a Win 7 style for desktops should you choose to not use the Metro view, right?"

That's what "Aero" means. Which is exactly what the article is talking about killing off and replacing with big, blocky, white windows. It's a clear attempt to force people away from the earlier Windows interface style by making it less comfortable to use. Which you'd have known if YOU had bothered to read the article. Reading comprehension, indeed.

Due to a severe brain cell deficiency, you are no longer allowed to use the Dobbs-head in your correspondence. Report to the Mothership for recycling and high-intensity slack infusion.

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BlazePC

Your brain damage is severe.
Sucks being you 2-b-sure.

"Killing off Aero effects" - article citation

Aero =/= Windows 7 desktop exclusively knuckles. Or in other words, turning off Aero doesn't necessitate using Metro idiot. "That's what Aero means..." LMAO Geezus... G.E.D. much? And a clear (and present danger that you obviously fear way too much...) attempt to force people away smacks of chick drivel. Are you serious? Spew some truth, we all know you still use XP and won't budge. Take some Midol to fix that pal. After that, go to M.S.U. and bone up.

Most people I know that run Win 7 have Aero turned off anyway, either partially or in total. I have parts of it turned off myself. Regardless, your eagerness to spew massive butt-hurt only reinforces my previous point.

Wake the **** up and make your mother proud for once.

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spokenwordd

Sigh..... Well Microsoft looks like Win 7 will be the new XP. The Metro UI sucks sucks sucks sucks and now you want to take away Aero? Win 7 is your best effort ever, Win 8 is not building on that, it is a major shift.

If I wanted a Windows 7 phone I'd buy one, but no thanks I have an Android phone and Android Tablet. Can you please just get back to making desktop OS?

You essentially killed WHS and now I see Ballmer is hell bent on killing the desktop OS. I'm so frustrated.

Fail, fail, fail

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jtrpop

I agree with you. Microsoft was not doing their best in the 90's, in 2000 they did good, and now they continue to shoot themselves in the foot. They have crippled, killed, or left to die some of their best products: Windows Home Server, Media Center, and now Windows itself after the wonderful Windows 7.

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praack

another sign that MS is writing off the desktop believing that they need to cater to tablets and low power laptops.

so no aero- and big blocky white screens -

nope 8 is not in this guy's life

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sadatoni

Just what I wanted, the Windows 3.1 interface all over again. Win 8 GUI is worse than Win 95. What I so enjoyed with Vista was Aero (I'm getting close to re-installing it on one machine... something happened to it that it stopped running Aero and went back to the win XP look).

My messing around with Win 8 (thanks Max. PC for how to do it via a VM) show a poorly conceived interface by M$. While it's workable, it's extremely boring. And I've yet to find a way to close an "app", short of alt-F4.

So there will be no windows 8 in my future.

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blackcat77

I had W8 on my laptop for a couple months and it just never felt right. Went back to W7 and now I'm happy again. I admit the boot time is forever compared to W8 but that is the only downside.

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