Bullwinkle J Moose

February 09, 2012 at 11:13pm

I used Sygate Pro firewall which blocks both incoming and outgoing data from anything including Microsoft's core functions (features) except when certain items are changed

For example,

I noticed security software began breaking the firewall when AVG went from version 7.0 to version 8.0

In AVG 7.0 the firewall worked fine!
But, once you update to version 8, programs, keyloggers, trojans and virtually anything else you could think of began accessing the Internet directly even though EVERYTHING was blocked in the firewall

In AVG version 9, they fixed the antivirus to prevent the end user from seeing that programs were actually connecting to the Internet when blocked in the firewall but you can see that they were still disabling the firewall by reading the license in AVG 9

This was the beginning of logging what programs were running on a users machine without the user being aware of it

This stealth behavior was expanded upon with Microsoft service pack 3 and later updates

This same behavior is seen with security essentials yet the firewall gives you no warning because the program updates fine while everything is blocked from Internet access and no firewall warning popup occurs with security essentials when it begins updating

Others here will complain that Sygate was a security risk and should be updated to a more secure firewall, yet when you do that you will not see what is connecting to the Internet in the background

I believe the updated firewalls were merely to prevent the end user from seeing what was connecting to the Internet when EVERYTHING is blocked in your firewall

At least with Sygate, we can see what they are doing!

For those who go the packet sniffer route...
I don't care what your packet sniffer says!
If the Light on my wireless dongle is blinking, data is being sent!
With SP2 or AVG 7 and earlier, the light diddn't blink when everything was blocked in the firewall!

With SP3, AVG 8 and later or Security Essentials installed, the light blinks regardless of what I block in the firewall BECAUSE DATA IS BEING SENT!

Welcome to HELL!

Bullwinkle J Moose

February 09, 2012 at 1:51pm

"pretty Sure" doesn't cut it around here kid!

YOU might not think it's suspicious to just send data off to the Internet, but to do so even though your Firewall has blocked ALL programs from sending or receiving data to/from the Internet is a prime indicator of a backdoor

To do so without the firewall even giving you a popup is a DEFINITE indicator to a back door

To call others stupid or a troll without understanding the consequences of the actions just described is usually an indicator that you are an insider trying to protect your illegal spyware operation

However, in aprox 2 out of 10 cases, the person making such a retarded statement as you have just made indicates that you are lacking intelligence and are the type of person who goes around the Internet making retarded statements like you just did without ever once checking whether I was offering proof of my claim by checking what I said for yourself on your own computer

I'll give you the benefit of the doub't in this case untill you check my findings for yourself

Please verify what I said in my original post and refrain from reposting untill you understand the consequences of what it means to have a back door "in" and out of any Windows computer without consent and without being notified by a firewall

However,
If you continue to make statements like you just did, I will no longer give you the benefit of the doubt!

Have a nice day :)

kevaskous

February 09, 2012 at 9:15am

The later