Microsoft Loses Mobile Market Share to Google and Apple

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Mr_Histamine

Not really surprising...considering their tracking ended in November. It'll be more interesting to see if the big marketing machine got people motivated to pick one up over the holidays.

Based on the non-techie people I talk to (that own a W8 phone), they honestly love it (though, I'll give them a few months, and revisit that). Some even had a tough time finding the one they wanted (color-wise), in stock.

BTW, I own a W7 phone, and will never go back to Android.

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whr4usa

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...and yeah basically every color besids black is out everywhere in the states of Virginia ++ North Carolina from Verizon, Best Buy Mobile and many more places as of new year day for both verizon devices

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xulaopas

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ocnier

What still baffles me is why MS waited sooooo long to get serious about the mobile handset space. When the iphone 2 arrived that should have been the starting buzzer but they waited till iphone 4 and eclair to even really show up to the party (Balmer you're an idiot!).

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Fray

Microsoft made Windows 8 really cheap as an upgrade, and I installed it when I built my last PC. I like that it boots faster. I use the free 'Classic Shell' to put back the start button menu and to move quickly past the insanely awful Metro interface.

But I did like the widgets on my Windows 7 desktop. MS won't let them be installed on the desktop in Windows 8.

Every day I regret not having currencies and times displayed there. While I could get them in the Metro tiles it is just not worth the hassle and extra clicks to go to my desktop.

So every day I am irritated by Microsoft's ridiculous design decision and this even makes me allergic to the tile interface on a Windows phone (even if it might possibly work in that context).

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Cregan89

You have a typo in your comment.

I believe you meant to say "extra 'click' to go to my desktop", not 'clicks'.

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hufayasr

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Damnlogin

I'm surprised that Symbian was even mentioned considering how the U.S. Market treated it like a plague. I would guess that the majority of Symbian handsets mentioned are T-mobile's Nokia Astound and Nuron crowds, since thats pretty much the only love Symbian saw in the U.S. Not bad for a dead OS.

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gatorXXX

To all the people who can't seem to read or comprehend an article, Paul got these figures from COMSCORE. Paul is just writing an article on their findings and he didn't just make these numbers up like some of you seem to believe. Gotta beef with it? Take it up with Comscore because they did the survey...not MPC.

I considered going WP8 for about .06 seconds. First off, Sprint doesn't have WP8 yet and I'm not switching carriers to get a freakin' phone. Even when Sprint does get it, I will continue to use android based phones. To be honest, there is nothing compelling in WP8 to make me want to switch. I'm not a fandroid by any means and I'm willing to switch to a different platform, but after playing with the 920 I wasn't gushing liquids down my leg.

I'm sure alot of others feel this way. Especially the crowd that likes to customize their phones to their liking. So I feel the survey is pretty accurate and MS has a LONG way to go to get any traction in the mobile market. Plus...alot, and I mean ALOT of people are still realing over the shaft people got over winmo 6 and 6.5. You know they sucked. They Sucked bad! It wasn't the OS that got people mad, it was the lack of updates to fix the problems they had....and there were alot of them.

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HiGHRoLLeR038

hmm thats hard to believe since MS is pushing a TON of advertising and using celebrity endorsements for Windows Phone.

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TheRyGuy

I bought the Lumia 920, and have been loving it. It's so refreshing coming from iOS. My girlfriend played with it and made the switch the next day. We love it. WP8, in my opinion, has a great UI. Sure, it may not have as many apps, but more are coming.

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whr4usa

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dad loves 822 (we're with big red so no 920)

I've got X right now...though I've no complaints with this HTC device I think I might 'abuse' my "exchange period" with Best Buy Mobile somewhat and try SamSung's Odyssey when it arrives or the 822 and any others that come later, too!

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DU00

To each his own, but the 8X is better than both of those. I have the 920 and considered the 8X because it feels and look better to me. The 920 was cheaper and has a better screen (in my opinion) so I went with it instead.

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livebriand

Why can't you guys just block posts from noobs that have links? Particularly links to the same sites that I keep seeing? That right there would seriously help...

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Cregan89

That photo is a little misleading since only one model of Windows Phone 8 hardware was available, and only during the last week or so of this time period.

As a matter of fact, this data isn't a very good representation of Windows Phone market share at all since Windows Phone was just about to receive a major and incompatible update to the platform towards the very end of this time frame. So it's completely expected that it's sales would come to a halt during this time period, the exact same thing happens to all of the platforms (less so to Android because it's major hardware and software updates are relatively scattered).

Based on the linked source, it's interesting that you chose to single out Windows Phone at all actually. The original report barely mentions Windows Phone at all (most likely due to the reasons I pointed out above) and BlackBerry lost almost double the market share that Windows Phone lost over the same time period.

Trying to stir up some flame wars perhaps? You wouldn't happen to get paid based on how many views or comments your articles produce would you...?

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dherrick12

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this is exactly what I wanted to say in my earlier post, Paul.

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whr4usa

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also "Windows Mobile" (which is in decline) gets thrown in with "Windows Phone" (Windows Phone Classic is rebranded Windows Mobile 6.5 and has nothing to do with Windows Phone 7, which itself has little in common with Windows Phone 8) and I suspect if you divided these categories you'd see a significant drop in the prior's marketshare and substantial increase in the latter

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ApathyCurve

Look! Both of the people who own Windows phones posted in this thread! Awesome!

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Baer

We just took our entire company to Win 8 phones so there are more of us than two. And guess what? We really like them.
This is not a slam on Apple or Droid but there are in fact other good choices out there.

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whr4usa

+1

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burntham77

I would love to get a Windows Phone 8 device, but until they fix the way podcasts are handled, I can't abide a purchase. Windows Phone 7 does it perfectly, allowing me to manage all of my media from the Zune software. I can add podcasts either from the Marketplace or via feed URLs. It put all my media in one place. Windows Phone 8 changed some of that. Now podcasts are a separate feature, and from what I have read you can only download podcasts that are in the Marketplace. They took away what I consider to be necessary functionality. Fix it and Microsoft can have my money.

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dherrick12

I have found most of my podcasts In the store for free and they automatically download on WiFi if I'm subscribed. There is one podcast not in the store that I listen too. Foe that one I use an app "podcasts!" which can get any rss feed. I do wish u could manage through zune/itunes type software tho

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whr4usa

you read wrongly, they are indeed 'seperated' but no functionality has been lost from Windows Phone 7.x it just is hidden somewhat compared to how straightforward it has become to use the Store ...and you can always transfer the podcast files manually via USB or use SkyDrive or attachments

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dherrick12

You know this is stupid, and perhaps a article trying to slam Microsoft. Windows phone 8 wasn't even out for Verizon until mid November. and then i wasn't able to get my htc 8x in blue until December. make a statement like this next quarter when it actually makes sense to

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Baer

That is actually true, we could not get ours until early December. Blue must be popular :-)

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Paul_Lilly

Not sure if you read too much into the article, or too little. Either way, it's a report on the current state of the mobile landscape, one in which Microsoft has been moving in the wrong direction compared to its major rivals. Will Windows Phone 8 make a difference and be more successful than Windows Phone 7.5 and earlier versions? Time will tell, but it doesn't mean we should ignore comScore's just-released quarterly figures.

What if Windows Phone 8 doesn't improve Microsoft's standing three months from now and the gap widens even further? Would it also be "stupid" to report the figures at that time because Windows Phone 8.5 and/or Windows Phone 9 won't be reflected? That's silly.

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Penterax

Seriously, a decline in .6% when a new model hasn't had enough time to effect the statistics is showing that the sales are normal; nothing unexpected is happening here. And, a report over, say, the last 6 months instead of 3 months would show an increase in market share, not a decrease.

In fact, I'd say a decline of ONLY 6/10 of a percent is encouraging for Microsoft in light of the fact that most people wanting a Windows phone would wait until the next gen is released.

As you say, time will tell. The Lumia 920 and the HTC 8X "should" mean more sales for Microsoft, because these phones come much closer to competing with what's currently available in the high-end phone market. And, the gap between available apps for other phone OSes and Win 8 will continue to dwindle, and that seems to be a big driver and influence, too.

I still maintain that sales are driven by the phones over the OSes. Microsoft needs to have phones that capture the imagination of the public in terms of hardware - as well as putting out an OS platform that is demonstrably equal to or better than Android.

They also need more variety. The 2 flagship phones out right now are great phones, but there is no "Note II", and I personally would rather have a phone that works more like a computer than phones do now (which is one main reason I'm interested in Windows as a smart phone OS).

Really, Microsoft has only just begun to get serious about the smart phone market; they hadn't been before the first Nokia phones were released last year. Personally, I think a large part of that is, despite the fact that there have been millions of people captured by the concept of the hardware that exists, it was released too early, and most of the phones to date have really been poor devices not able to actually do what they were purported to, reliably. Microsoft has waited until the hardware has matured to a degree that the company considers them good enough to put Windows on.

I also say that you aren't taking responsibility for the tone of your post, which starts off saying Microsoft is having a tough time. Well, of course they are! They are very late to a party with well-established leaders. You aren't just reporting the numbers here, you are making a statement that Microsoft phones are on the decline.

There is a difference between reporting the news and commenting on it. A journalist-trained reporter is under the mistaken impression that his opinion is more important than what the actual facts of a report are. I suggest that, while it might capture more attention from the uneducated crowd, the data is what's important, and a reporter should not be a "journalist" first, but a reporter first, and refrain from coloring a news report as much as possible. (Generally Paul, I would say you are better at being neutral in most of your reports than the average reporter; I am trying to encourage that side of you, not to say you are bad at it, because you aren't. :) Indeed, I would suggest the comments here aren't so much about how "bad" this little news post was, but that we've come to expect a cleaner report form you, and don't want to see you go the way of some others, on this site and elsewhere.)

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whr4usa

as I stated in reply to another poster above, those numbers apparrently include the declining-but-more-widely-in-use Windows Mobile (including Windows Phone Classic, the rebranded Windows Mobile 6.5)

I'm certain if those numbers were seperated by OS and not by vendor you'd see Windows Phone increasing and windows mobile in drastic decline making microsoft marketshare appear to stand still or noticeably decrease

also Verizon has only had a single Windows Phone 7 device for barely a full year which was barely marketed by verizon or microsoft so this effectively i microsoft's first launch on north america's largest carrier

there are many more headlines that could have been attached to these numbers than what yal chose

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Surefinger

Really Lilly, thats just silly. When you talk about Microsoft that way, do you know that your Apple slip is showing? I think when it was said 'make a statement like this next quarter when it actually makes sense' was equal to say ... three months.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

Jesus, rough crowd.

Paul, not only are you inciting Windows 8 hatred but you're also a shill for Apple. The geek bourgeoisie on this site are relentless in their characterizations.

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darkslasher

and in other news the sky is blue

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