Microsoft Loads Up to Respond to Mac Vs PC Guy Ads

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Wildebeast

I kinda do hate Macs. Not just because I have a sister who talks like "Intel compters" are made of MSG, razor blades, and the like. [Macs are made of pixie dust & ice cream, I guess.] They do push innovation better than plenty of PC parts manufacturers.

It also bothers me quite a bit that (like a lot of companies) they used iTunes to dominate the mp3 player market. It was a better business model/copyright standard than anyone elses, but the rest of the industry should have been able to get together to get one just as good or better. (Still using my Rio Karma, w/b&w display.)

I am an XP user, learning Kubuntu Linux in hopes of having the option to avoid Windows 7 in addition to avoiding Vista. The problems I have will XP are all related to the security patches, or the junk MS pulled to kill Netscape, Wordperfect and Lotus. If they had found a comprehensive firewall as much a "natural part" of Windows as an internet browser, I'd have almost no issues with XP.

Oh yes, and because I run Home, instead of Pro --there's apparentely no way for me to actually save SP2 and SP3. I get to choose b/w hours of downloading after a fresh install and buying the SP disks from MS.

As for Vista, I hate that 2 guys go into a room to make something work, then when they leave and it still doesn't work, the finger pointing starts. A major point with Vista is that you have to have new hardware or upgrade for it --serious flaws in communication and being in too big a damn hurry are valid, but really crummy excuses.

Exclusivity sounds like a great idea [to them], when Apple, MS, Dell, music sales dudes, other software companies are using it to squeeze out their competition. Then when they don't have the sales, because their exclusive product sucks (probably due to lack of innovation and competition & higher price) they bitch about piracy, hackers & theft. ---Yes these are problems, but how much of it comes out of corporate inertia and greed?

Anybody seen the price of a CD drop, because iTunes $.99? No, they're delaying price raises, instead.  Lacks in sales couldn't be because they act like "White people listen to country & classical, Black people listen to Hip-Hop and Soul."

Will you be able run the best possible graphics on the best possible PC mobo? Not unless you drop $5k on a high-end PC builder, because AMD, nVidia, intel don't want to use "a standard," unless they're collecting royalties from it.

I also can't help thinking that BTX didn't take off, not because users didn't want it, but because the big PC builders didn't want to be stuck with the old ATX stock.

 

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Tobe_Dog

You know its funny how alot of people say that every Mac user is as Chris put it, "was into granola, watching tree’s grow, and communing with nature, not trendy and cool."

 I just happen to be both an avid PC and Mac user.  I certainly don't eat granola, and I could care less about the trees growing because we are gonna cut 'em down anyways. (Yes pro-logger.)  And the communing with nature, ha, im not into hemp or wearing socks with sandels.  I also don't throw the fact that I'm using a Mac into a PC users face at every turn.  I do think there are some easier ways to do things on a Mac than on a PC.  True, you can't play games on a Mac so the PC is there to throw down on some Battlefield 2.  All I'm saying, is I may not be trendy or cool, but I guess that also means that I am not the sterotypical Mac user.  

OSX may be better than Vista, but with that said, I'd still rather have XP anyday of the week.  Vista reminds me of Millenium in that 98 was awesome then this so called "best OS ever" called Millenium came out and everyone hated it and went back to 98.  Are we seeing that again here with Vista?  I think so...

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Haipyng

That was tongue in cheek, don't take it to heart. They say the same thing about us Vermonters. :) The Mac ads are targeted at stereo types. Are Vista users guys in business suits that are "Bill Gates" like? Of course not. Most Gen Xers would rather be shot than characterized like that. That's the sales angle.

On XP I agree, on my current system I wouldn't upgrade. Not because Vista is a bad OS, but because I don't want to sacrifice the level of processing power I have (single core proc and 7900GT) to push some eye candy that I could use elsewhere. On a new system I'd definitely go with Vista for the new features and eye candy. Most issues in Vista have been fixed or there are work arounds (UAC). We have processing power to spare so why not.

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Skiplives

After all Vista is not their fault.  And the commercials aren't that funny.  I am agnostic on the OS thing, I have two PCs and one Apple at home; a PC at work; and several Apple accoutrements.  As long as it doesn't crash I am happy.

The problem is that Microsoft got it backward.  Instead of the same OS at 35 different price points, why not one OS that is flexible and customizable.  Everything outside of the kernal should be switchable.  I can see it now - Windows 7 Gamer Edition - Now with command line interface!  Okay, maybe not, but I can dream ... 

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Haipyng

I don't hate apple, they are crunchy and good with caramel dip. They are even better when toasted. =)

And yes Microsoft definitely got the multiple versions wrong. Two versions was plenty, but I like the idea of a truly modular system.

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brokenmoth08

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Wareagle

"He goes on to explain that most of Vista’s problems were due to
hardware manufacturers not expecting Windows Vista to be delivered on
time, and then being left unprepared when it was."

No, it was supposed to come out in 2004.   Vista was 3 years late, and had none of the features that were promised in Longhorn.

Vista is a very fitting name, because that's all it is.  A different view of your desktop.

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Haipyng

Yes, hardware vendors didn't believe Microsoft when they said they were going to get it when they said they were after missed dates. Microsoft was also trying hard to control Vista and keep it under wraps. There is blame enough there to go around. Microsoft has learned from the crappy Vista launch and is trying the carrot and stick approach for WIndows 7 compatibility logos. Beta's are being made more available to vendors and the Hardware Logo Program is alot stiffer than Vista was. It's here if you want some dry reading.

Frankly, I am a bit worried about Windows 7, and the rushed 2009 release. Microsoft has one chance to get this right, or face an outright rebellion of users. So far I am unimpressed by the touch interface.

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Wareagle

"Frankly, I am a bit worried about Windows 7, and the rushed 2009
release. Microsoft has one chance to get this right, or face an
outright rebellion of users."

Sweet, maybe they'll switch to Linux.  :)

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brokenmoth08

There is alot of  anti mac cartoons on the internet, and alot of them are hillarious.

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Strongbad536

Haha, that ad is hilarious.  I cant wait to see it on TV.  in the words of tom, "well played sir, well played indeed"

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