Microsoft Launches Second Volley in Its Laptop Hunters Campaign

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mnas

The studio series laptop is very awesome to use and handle. The complaint i see in dv2000 motherboard.

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PCIV

I posted on Giz first:

Yea right... he's technically savvy by my gradma's standard, that's
what. He can read a spec sheet, that's all. If he was techno-savvy, he
would notice that Macbooks run DDR3, and if he wanted to customize, he
wouldn't be in a brick-and-mortar store. In fact, he wouldn't be buying
a Laptop.

As well, he started the Ad with wanting Battery Life, and Portability. I don't think a 16in laptop has either of those.

At least he got the power part. The HDX works off a 180W adapter. Compare to the 60W for Macbook and 85W for Pro.

 

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dontcry

MS is off making happy how the hardware is cheaper, and how there are
more to choose from but still don't give a reason how they are
responsible, because they are not. And since they are not, what is the
point in the ad? That HP makes cheaper PCs than Apple? I need Lauren
and Gianpaolo and a million dollar ad to tell me that?

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dag1992

You must be blind not to take into account that many mac buyers aren't that tech savvy either.  A little over than half of the mac users that I know own one because it looks good or is the "hip" thing to do.  Ask one of them what ddr3 is, I bet you you'll get a bunch of blank stares.

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Geeksquadmyss

First i want to say i like nissans! The silvia line, and the R series (skylines for those not in the know) and the 300 series cars.  

BUt anyway 

Go for blood MS and dont stop til apple has there fuckin $40 head phones wrapped around there necks like a noose....sorry got a bit carried away.

And to the guy bitching/ranting about fan boys spending money on PC parts, if you've got the money spend it, and your right it is called maximum PC so stop Bitchin about people spending money on PC parts! 

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Donnie27

[RANT=Donnie27] 

You can buy any kind of BareBones Laptop and configure it to your hearts desire;)  You can't do that with a MAC.  Hell Frakkin NO, MAC is not like a Ferrari but more like Toyota or Nissan with a Lexus or Infinity badge slapped on it!  Do mean badge just slapped and not really a better higher end model.

I'm not trash HP all you guys like but listening to some of the BS here, it seems like many of you are on the Wrong site.  This is MAXIMUMPC, not MaximumNoob.  We build our own PC's can't do that with a MAC=P  Then the same frakkin PC parts cost 2 or 3 times as much when they are needed, sorry, no thanks.  To the guy talking about the Great OS making his 2GHz with slow ram run faster than his PC, yeah right, seems more like newbie build issues to me.

I think the Microsoft ads are dead on, HP or NOT!  Hey, don't worry Apple.  The PC market is full of irrational Fanboys Geeks who pay $459 for BFG Motherboards, $300 cases with $250 PSU, still think $500 Video cards for 5 more frames per second is a good deal, $200 sound cards that are nothing built glorified CMedia on-board sound conduits, $300 DDR3 RAM that's not much faster than DDR2 and they buy 3 sticks when it is barely faster than 2 sticks.  No, there are enough suckers to go around:rolleyes: I don't blame Apple, Asus or BFG![/RANT]

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Bender2000

Well, isn't a Lexus just a Toyota with a fancy badge? Aside from that since MacOS is Intel native you CAN build a Hackintosh with most any part you want, and you have to be a little geekier to pull it off than just doing the buffet menu dance that most Windows builds. These ads are more pro HP since that seems to be the laptop of choice. In fact HP has more PCs aimed dead at Apple than any other company. If they had a little gumption they could wrangle their suppliers to write drivers for Ubuntu, add in some Office and Lifestylesuites, and open up a real second front on Windows.

I still think MS is striking at Apple by proxy, HP is getting free ad time here. Now I call for MS to back it up by taking Apple on in the included software realm. Give us a Windows challenger to iLife, MS Works is just pathetic.  MS calims they bring the prices of PCs down (snort!) but can they claim they make working on them BETTER?ANd while they are it, how about simplifying the OS variants and give us 5 license family packs like Apple does. 

Donnie 27 is right about this being Maximum PC, not Limited to the Mainstream Monopolistic and Disappointing OS Magazine or Boutique Snake Oil OS and Overpriced PC mag, this is a mag about getting the most out of your PC, any other dispute aside. That's why they have articles on why Vista sucks and how to move to Linux and living with OS X. Its us vs them, with us being PC gamers/hobbyists and them being everybody who makes it difficult or annoying to max our PCs, not Win v Mac or Linux.

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Geeksquadmyss

For the last time MS isnt saying they make PC's cheaper!  There saying that there more afforadble and are a better option than a over priced Mac.  Apple has complete control over what goes inside there machines, including cost, something that MS does not control so yes, there is something to them not being in charge of pricing.

Read the last discussion on the last ad about  what they mean i think it was pretty thorough it also made the Mac cultist stop talking because they had nothing more to bitch at.

As far as App support i dont want a ilife equivalent, because i dont need it! Do you even know what apps come with ilife, shit like iphoto and other crap!  I dont need that shit on my PC it just takes up space.  

And no buddy you cant just use any parts to build a Mac and you also have to find drivers for all the hardware as well.  Then your still limited by what you can do on a mac, hence why nobody games on a fuckin Mac.

And when was the last article you saw on how bad Vista is?  I dare i say like Vista, its had its problems but shit happens and its all better now. 

Take your shiny apple products and kindly shove then up your ass!  They might do you more good that way.

 

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AntiHero

Someone who gets it. Here's the deal. And this is coming from a standpoint on someone who doesn't love any os they've used. XP was great, so is vista, 7 is awesome for a beta, i liked fedora core, SUSE and Ubuntu, apple is ok if you don't want to upgrade or deal with out of warranty repairs. Apple's pricing breaks down this way. They have to pay MORE people to make everything proprietary, hence the high cost for parts and the machines thrmselves. It is not better for design, that is a misconception. In my experience doing websites for people, having one client give me iPhoto libraries, i hate it, because it is so redundant, and pointless to drop into 7 sub folders to pull out one image. Waste of time sorting it all. iTunes whether you admit it or not, it's a good program, if you're on a Mac, works funny on pc because it's a port to windows. This apple versus windows war is lame, and moot. You can't make a hackintosh with anything either, it has to be precise, it's damn near a science. Put windows on a macbook, and the fans won't work, it then heats to 70 or 80 celcius internally, making it very hot to touch. I dislike operating systems because not all of them do what i want. My perfect one would be linux source code, with the windows system files to run windows programs. I don't want anything from Mac, because i don't use anything that would need a mac. I play games, do work with the Adobe web designer suite, i browse, i watch movies. Mac is utterly useless to me, but i don't see any problems with it other than the price, and inabiity to use programs from the other 95% of the world (VMware doesn't count...i don't want to virtualize an OS to run a windows program)

I don't like Microsoft, I associate with it.

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Bender2000

ANyone buying into these ads is worse off than any Apple Elitist Hipster. MS is off making happy how the hardware is cheaper, and how there are more to choose from but still don't give a reason how they are responsible, because they are not. And since they are not, what is the point in the ad? That HP makes cheaper PCs than Apple? I need Lauren and Gianpaolo and a million dollar ad to tell me that?

As far as not wanting an iLife equivelent, who cares what you want? Its programs like that which most people will use so why can't MS put one in and make things a whole lot simpler for users?It would make the whole thing a lot better if they got rid of that trial Office they include and gave us something useful, right? ANd if you don't want it, how about making it easy to remove instead of having to hope taking it out doesn't screw up the registry. Is that too much to ask this day in age?

Vista is better, but you don't read articles about how much it sucks because Win 7 is so good it makes it irrelevent. I dare say you have your head in the sand. No one is going to carp on Vista since its already a dead OS walking, not because its been perfected. What I'd like to see is Win 7 licensing follow Apple's lead. To upgrade from Tiger to Leopard cost you $120, $180 for the 5 license family pack. To upgrade from XP to Vista was at least $100 each with no 5 license option. ANd that is for the UPGRADE version, full versions are more expensive. 

No one can argue that gaming exists only on Windows. That is in spite of Windows and the comatose Games for Windows initiative. That is thanks to dedicated gamers and companies like you and valve. Don't you wish MS was onboard too?How about a gamer profile in the OS so it stops annoying background processes and built in QoS.

It irks me that MS takes the same half truths and low blows that Apple's been using and all of a sudden they are the golden boys and can do no wrong. Well they have lots of room to improve. I'd like them to lead by actions rather than sling mud. 

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BaggerX

"ANyone buying into these ads is worse off than any Apple Elitist
Hipster. MS is off making happy how the hardware is cheaper, and how
there are more to choose from but still don't give a reason how they
are responsible, because they are not."

The point is that it doesn't matter in the slightest whether MS is responsible for the fact that PC hardware is vastly more open leading to much lower prices and many more options.  All that matters is that that's true and that Windows runs on the PC platform.  Yeah, you can screw around and try to build a hackintosh, but good luck getting it all to work well.  If you really want MacOS that bad, then go ahead and and bend over for Apple and pay their outrageous prices. 

Funny thing I just heard today from a co-worker of mine.  Apple wanted $300 bucks to upgrade the RAM in his macbook to 4GB.  I could buy about 20 gigs of RAM for that price, and it takes about 10 minutes to install it.  Mac people are just used to paying through the nose for everything I guess.  At least he had the sense to do it himself instead and save about $250 bucks.

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windbane

It all depends on what your doing, both Mac's and PC's can do the same things equally well...except high-end gaming. Also PC's are also vastly more configurable which requires more hardware knowledge to do those upgrades. Mac's are great if you never intend to upgrade your computer or change your hardware configs, which is also why the Mac's OS is more stable as the hardware it's run on is virtually the same for every model, the hardware is a known factor (like a gaming console). PC's with their many many different configurations, is bound to have a few compatibility issues and software glitches, MS can't program for every conceivable hardware config out there. It's amazing Windows works as well as it does.

But for me to get a Mac...it all comes down to money. More powerful PC for the same price as a Mac, with the ability to upgrade it, and generally cheaper software price's too...you just can't beat a PC.

It's like a Corvette vs. a Ferrari, both are powerful both get you from point A to B...but if something goes wrong with/ or you want to upgrade parts of the 'vette you can go to any garage or you can just work on it yourself. The Ferrari on the other hand, if something goes wrong you gotta send it back to Italy or fly in a Ferrari mechanic if you need to change the air filter say...

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Selio

Yes, i am a Mac fanboy, but I have built a PC, and use it every day. Getting that out of the way, this seems like misinformation. The Apple is about aesthetics (yes, you mispelled that (I probably didn't spell mispelled right either)) is really wrong. My PC still isn't quite as good as my mac, even with the 4gigs of 800Mhz Ram, 640gig HDD, 9800Gt (achilles heel) 3GHz Core 2 Duo, computer, compared to a 2 year old aluminum imac with 1 gig of 667 Mhz ram and a 500 gig HDD, 2 GHz Core 2 Duo (that was long-winded), and that's becaus of the OS, which, with more third party support, would definately be much more powerful than any Windows OS (Linux IS better than Mac OS, i just don't like it much).

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AntiHero

The thing is, your pc is better than your mac, the real performance problem lies in companies not making programs using MICROSOFT's way, they made it to work IN windows, not as a part of windows. That is the difference between Apples linux ripoff's performance. Period. I have used Linux, and it looked like OSX before OSX, and everyone told me "you got the new Macbook Pro? HAHAH hel no...i'm not shelling out 2k of my hard earned dollars (parents money at the time) on something i can use that runs both Windows and Apple programs with little or no tinkering whatsoever, Video games? YES, Right Click Yes please, Music, sure thing, update my MP3 player (iPod at the time) you got it, photo editing and flash work, of course. I can go on. The point i'm making is that i had Linux looking the same, so really, all Apple has going for them is proprietary equipment. And you didn't spell Aesthetics wrong, it can be with an A or without. That's my rant. My knowledge goes as far as using all OS's. My school back when the iMac's came out had a fresh shipment of them, fantastic for learning and younger kids because it required little reading to navigate. I had 2 friends with Macbooks, that i used regularly when i was there to do things on for them like showing them iTunes (hate that program, but it's nicer in Apple's OS..) or how to do something in Firefox or something and as a Linux user, and a Windows one for work, i don't hate any OS, or like any os in particular. They all have downpoints and positives. As for manufacturers, HP is great, I use an Acer right now...and it's a pain in my ass, i picked a bone in the forums about my adventures with them. HP, ibuypower.com, and Dell are my personal recommendations, having worked with many laptops, desktops and a couple servers, i'll say do what's comfortable, but fuck this Apple Vs PC war, it's getting old, apples and oranges goddamn it, apples and oranges.

I don't like Microsoft, I associate with it.

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Geeksquadmyss

is not better than windows its just dumb proof!  You cant mess with the settings or the OS like you can with windows, and there is no change in hardware, so the need for always having the right drivers isnt a problem nearly as much.

And a 9800GT is not a bad card at all i have a 6 year old hp pavilion running a  9500 and i can run all the latest games just fine!  You mac cant beat a PC any day 

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mlee19

if you love your mac so damn much, why the hell are you coming to this site and not staying on your own turf?

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MrE

Thought it was interesting that both of Microsoft's ads feature HP machines. Wonder how Dell / Acer / Levono feel about being left out in the cold? 

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dreamsburnred

 I notice thats the HP HDX laptop. Though its $200 more in Canada D:.

 I am also planning to buy that exact same laptop at the beginning of fall.

DBR

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mlee19

Don't even waiste your time, HPs are the some of the shittiest laptops you can buy! Hell, newegg is selling powerful asus laptops with the geforce m9700 with 512mb of vid mem.

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bandeezee

I thought the exact same thing when I saw that commercial and he ended up with an HP.  I have several family members with an HP laptop (one purchased only a few months ago) and both had major issues and both had Vista.  Not sure if it was a Vista problem, but the newer one's webcam stopped working.  That one had to be RMA'd 4 times before they got it right.  The other one randomly stopped recognizing the built-in wireless card.  I tried installing driver files for it, but still no go.  I don't know if my cousin went to get it fixed or not.  Maybe it was a coincidence, but they were both HPs.  My wife has an Acer with Vista and a webcam and she's never had a problem.

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comptech08

it was probably not vista.  I have had several problems with HP.  And it is just not with their computers.  Had several problems with cameras and other stuff.  I had an HP computer that wouldnt stop messing up period and it was with XP.  I refuse to get an HP computer now.

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Geeksquadmyss

I had a similar problem with my toshiba but i bought it from best buy and it took 4 laptops to get a working one!  What you have tom uinderstand is that these are delicate machines that are being shipped all over and there will be problems.

Having said that i have used HP for a while and im very pleased 

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