Microsoft Boasts Record Revenue Following Windows 8 Sales Push

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fishead

From what I see this Os was made explicitly for their own Surface tablet.Nothing more nothing less.They just about bailed out on Desk top folks and changed the GUI so much that it will take a nice long while before you get used to an old system that was refined pretty nice and that we have used for the last 20 years and had gotten comfortable with.
They pretty much forced us to change from what was working well to a new system that is so tailored to the Surface tablet because they want to become the Next Apple.

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Miachang

Though win 8 is not as successful as win 7, because it does not get favorable reception among users. But the 69m license sale will boost more win 8 metro apps development. go to find them in http://www.windows8appstore.com/

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big_montana

How is Win 8 not as successful? Win 8 is selling at a cheaper price than Win 7 did on it's initial release, and yet Microsoft's Windows division had record revenues, despite Win 8 selling for $15 or $40 depending on how you acquired your copy. Looks like a success story to me.

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bluetorino1973

But was the 60 million mostly OEM or actual people? There is a difference between selling 80(?)% to OEM and 80)?)% to actual people. OEMs are having a hard time selling systems to people because of the changes made in Win8. You can't count the licenses sold to OEM until a person actually buys the computer and takes it home

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Gezzer

Okay again with my 2 cents.
Why is it so important that everyone upgrade to Win8?
It seems that many of the Win8 defenders most often go "Win8 is great for xxxx, and xxx, reasons, and anyone that hasn't upgraded is a Luddite of low moral and intellectual quality. Oh and they should F@ck off and die too!" Or so this thread seems to run
You've made your choice for whatever reason you have and good for you.
Many haven't upgraded for whatever reason that haven't which is their right.
Okay maybe some pot shots about the Modern UI are a bit low. But you have to admit it makes your interaction area look kind of stilted and well... colourful. But why is this so important that we all run Win8?
When you consider how many people still run or till recently were stilling running XP there was never this level of animosity directed towards them by Vista/Win7 users. Or did I just miss out on it?

It's kind of weird if you ask me.

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Ledoubleu

I respect your opinion as I hope you and others would respect mine. That said, my only answer to your question regarding upgrading? I bought W8 to upgrade an older slightly anemic laptop from Vista (and then W7) to W8. The W7 upgrade tended to be dog slow sometimes and I find the W8 upgrade to be very snappy on it (even somewhat pleasurable). No regrets!

My brother is also upgrading a Vista Machine and my girlfriend wants to upgrade from W7 to W8 because she likes the tiles. So that's really it, personal preference and a bit of performance boost on old hardware.

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Gezzer

Sorry dbl post due to server error.

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znod

I guess we'll see how the January 31 price changes affect things--e.g., upgrade download goes from $39.99 to $199.99. And, I think MS's "success story" has a variety of fudges in it. We'll see though.

I don't think there is much of a reason to love or hate Windows 8 excessively unless one is big on phones or tablets (in which case you might like 8 more than others). I think there are some very simple things MS could do to make Windows 8 more palatable to those not concerned with being able to use a standard computer like a phone or a tablet, but the Company is stubborn and probably won't do them. Note that the things I mention, except the change-desktop-icons idea, can be done via 3rd party software (or whatever). Here are my "I would likes:"

I would like to have an improved Windows 7-style start menu, available from MS, on the desktop. I would like the option, available in Windows 8, of starting directly to the desktop or to the "metro" start screen. I am not sure what all it should do, but I'd like to have a "metro" desktop icon available through Windows 8 via desktop > personalize > Change desktop icons. One thing the icon could do is allow access to the charm bar. I would like to be able to, via Windows 8, disable the charm bar.

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AFDozerman

Why is it that everyone either HATES or LOVES 8? I'm dual booting LinuxMint and Windows8, and I can't really say that either is superior to one another, just that they are both superior to 7. That being said, I have seen Windows8 flying off of the shelves in the stores that are selling it. Also remember that this isn't just desktop we're talking about here, either. I went to the mall with the wife earlier, and the Microsoft kiosk was selling tablets faster than the Apple store right across from them.

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johngerity

The real question is this:
Why is it that either everyone HATES Windows 8 or everyone LOVES Windows 8? Didn't maximumpc.com recently publish "Windows 8 Off to a Worse Start Than Vista?" now I'm told they can't keep it in stock? Which is it? Or ... is it BOTH? Schrodinger's Operating System. Maybe the guys at Redmond are using quantum mechanics in their source code. XD

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maxeeemum

@AFDozerman

"I have seen Windows8 flying off of the shelves in the stores that are selling it."

"the Microsoft kiosk was selling tablets faster than the Apple store right across from them."

LOL! Just gave yourself away!!! Tell Ballmer you gave it your best shot! LOL!!!!!!!!!

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AFDozerman

Obviously, I was referring to two different places when I said stores and kiosk, but does it really matter? My point is still intact.

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maxeeemum

Obviously you are full of it!!!!!

So did you hang out at each place for a few hours?????????

LOL! Please stop!

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AFDozerman

Obviously, I was referring to two different places when I said stores and kiosk, but does it really matter? My point is still intact.

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jonahkirk

I think "Charms Bar" is the stupidest name for any portion of any operating system ever

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jonahkirk

I think "Charms Bar" is the stupidest name for any portion of any operating system ever

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PCWolf

Windows 8!
The perfect OS for Noobs, Gay People, Social Media Junkies & Children!
Now with it's pretty colored tiles with EXTRA BIG icons so PC Noobs with no skills can find what they just installed! No more getting lost in that tiny Start Button in Windows 7! Social Media Addicts can now have Icons all over there desktops letting them know they got Twitter & Facebook updates, While Gays & Children will love the many shades of purples pinks & blues of the new Windows 8 User Interface!

Now, if you love windows 8, that's great! But stop trying to defend it & saying how great it is & how everyone else is wrong for not liking it just because you like it.

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SPreston2001

Lol hilarious!! But true!!

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Scatter

Speaking of children...

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Jeffredo

They crowed about what a success Vista was when it first came out as well. They didn't have to with Windows 7 because it was universally praised by buyers and professional reviewers. Now we're back to the chest-thumping to justify a clumsy, unintuitive UI no one wanted.

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Penterax

Well, even if they were somehow exaggerating the success of Win 8, I can hardly blame them for wanting to counterbalance all the ignorant detracting of the OS going on.

It always makes me laugh when people say that Vista was terrible, but their favorite Windows was (is) Win 7. Win 7 was nothing but a tweaked of Vista, with Aero made lighter for lower quality computers. Vista had it's launch flaws (Wow, a new version of an OS with flaws, go figure!), but it was a good OS.

I do think the "Win 8 UI" or "Modern UI" or "Metro" was done in a rather heavy-handed way for the desktop environment, but having actually used it and built a new system using it, I know the complaints are baseless.

Win 8 is a tweaked Win 7; no one should upgrade unless there are specific features they want from Win 8 that Win 7 doesn't provide, but no one should be afraid of Win 8 either.

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slibinz

Vista gave me headache after headache after yes-I-really-want-to-do-this-and-wtf-I-thought-I-turned-this-shit-off headache, while I've had zero problems with Windows 7.

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Victek

True that many people don't realize that "7" is an evolution of Vista, but it's not trivial. MS went through Vista polishing and optimizing every nook and cranny, plus the minimum hardware requirements were raised and third party support for printers and other initially orphaned hardware was greatly increased. The user experience with "7" was dramatically better coming out of the gate. It is arrogant to say that complaints about Windows 8 are "baseless" just because you had no problem getting used to it. In my experience average users have a hard time dealing with UI changes. The differences between XP, Vista, and 7 were trivial by comparison and many people still had quite a bit of trouble. The first thing I do for people when setting up Windows 8 is install something like Classic Shell that restores the Start Menu and boots the system directly to the desktop. That enables them to begin using the system, and if they wish they can gradually figure out Metro, apps, etc.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

It's the drugs

Just ask Ballmer > Who makes the drugs for the Microsoft Cool-Aid?
He will jump around thumping his chest in a sweat, screaming...

DEVELOPERS....DEVELOPERS....DEVELOPERS....WHOOOOOEEEEEEE

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angryone

If Windows 8 is doing so well, why are retailers like Newegg and others discounting the price and offering rebates on it? Right now, you can get Windows 8 Pro on disc ($29.99) for less than Microsoft is selling the download ($39.99.) In the past, you could never find a version of Windows on sale. Now, they are trying to give it away. That says to me that sales are POOR.

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Penterax

Are you serious?

They are offering the discount because Microsoft decided to make a discount version available for the first few months. The fact that you don't know that proves my point - the Win 8 detractors are making baseless, ignorant comments. Retailers aren't responsible for the low price, Microsoft is.

Microsoft knew the new interface was controversial, and so have taken steps to get it out there where more people can and will use it, and so overcome their reluctance. It's very obvious why they'd do that for the first time since Windows was launched.

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AFDozerman

Uhh, last I heard, prices are doing the opposite very, very soon.

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davelray

Real simple. Because they aren't offering any such deals as you describe.. A quick look at newegg shows all the prices as they currently are with no sales or discounts or rebates like you mentioned. Why post false information that is so easily checked?

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angryone

Newegg "Weekend TechROCKERS," for jan 26 & 27. Windows 8 Pro Upgrade for $69.99 minus $40 mail in rebate for $29.99 final cost. And this is not the first time I've seen it discounted. Amazon had a deal last month, too.

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angryone

Newegg "Weekend TechROCKERS," for jan 26 & 27. Windows 8 Pro Upgrade for $69.99 minus $40 mail in rebate for $29.99 final cost. And this is not the first time I've seen it discounted. Amazon had a deal last month, too.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Google this > Windows 8 Pro on disc ($29.99)

and you will find this >

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=13p-5GfgEeKZ7IbrTeAH1w0_2O.P3_0_0_0&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16832416562

Wow davelray, it really was so easy to check

better hurry, offer expires tomorrow

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davelray

Nice, a mail in rebate that gets you a newegg rebate card. Gotta wait a month for it and you still only end up saving ten whole dollars over the overall MS promotion. Nice tha it's showing up now for those that want it. To bad newegg isn't offering on oem or full copy. Still, not a bad offer but that's newegg, not Microsoft. And a two day sale on more items than just this one. It's not like its actually Microsoft sponsoring it like angryone seemed to be saying.

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livebriand

Another thing - it looks like almost all of Lenovo's Thinkpad configurations now have Windows 7 by default. (though 8 is an option) Hmm, I wonder why...

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Gavin

I would not recommend to anybody buying a new computer to have Windows 7 installed, when they could have Windows 8 installed. Companies are doing this because they understand popular opinion. But popular opinion relies upon a mob-mentality. However, when it gets down to the details, one-on-one advice would lean towards suggesting Windows 8. The reasons for this are already available in numerous articles available online.

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maxeeemum

Nothing new here from Micro spin!!! M$ has always made money and has never put out a bad product. Just ask them!!!!!!!!!!

http://winsupersite.com/blog/supersite-blog-39/news2/microsoft-quarterly-revenues-up-27-percent-yoy-on-strength-of-vista-office-2007-halo-3-137621

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mvalles19

I have been working with /fixing computers for many years. Dealing with every operating system imaginable from Apple DOS 3.1 to MAC OS X 10.6, likewise with MS-DOS to Windows 8 and all other forms, variants or derivatives of Unix, Linux, iOS, Android, etc. Whatever floats your boat. Over the years I have discovered one simple truth. Human beings are very habitual and when change happens you get one of two initial reactions; I love it or I hate it. With Windows 8, I have noticed the biggest complaint about it, is the lack of a start button. Followed by; how am supposed to get anything done?, how am I supposed to find anything? and so on. With a few minutes of instruction some are delighted, while others are just disgusted and don't want the know-how. Don't get me wrong, Windows 8 has flaws. But, IMO the PRO's out weight the Con's as with all the others current operating systems available today. So at the end of the day, if you only have Hatred for Windows 8, Windows 7 will disappear like Windows 98, 2000, Me, XP and Vista. So unless you have the know-how to use Unix or Linux or are willing change your feeling about MAC OS X. What are you going to do? Personally, for me it is not as stable as XP, is far less secure then Vista and just a simplified, re-shelled version of 7. But, its simplicity is unmatched and has overall less system errors.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

What am I going to do?

I'm going to use "Windows to Go" from the Enterprise RTM Trial to restore full backups of XP-SP2 without the Licensing garbage to any computer I like and do so without Monopolysoft's permission if I feel like it

I like to keep full backups without drivers so I can use the backup on any computer and restore a clean backup in 60 seconds flat

I also have activated backups of "Windows to Go" in both 32 and 64 bit versions that can be restored to any computer from the same "Windows to Go" USB Drive

I also have Activated backups of Windows 7 in both 32 and 64 bit versions that can be restored to any computer from the same "Windows to Go" drive

Then I'm going to take over Microsoft and kick Ballmer out of my chair so I can Make "Windows to Go" the default Windows operating system that can be modified by the end user, then booted from DVD or write protected SSD for Internet use ONLY! (But Portable for use on any machine)

Then I'm going to make an Installed version that is for media production only and totally separate from the Internet version so the end users data remains safe at all times

I've been using Microsoft since DOS 3.1 as well and my first real mod was to shorten DOS 5 install time from 10 minutes to 60 seconds and eliminating 2 of the 3 installation disks and automating the process with an Install.bat file

We are tired of Microsoft using our best code to benefit themselves

It's time for new Management

I can secure Windows for the end users and make a separate tablet version for the toy lovers if that is what they want

So, who else wants to be a Billionaire?

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mvalles19

I concur my friend, unlike 97% of Windows users out there, you have the know-how. We are in the 3%, I would like nothing more then to back slap Microsoft and take their lunch money. But, I am not connected enough or have enough money to ever challenge them. So, back to my original comment, subtract the 3%, 97% of Windows users do not have the know-how to include people I know that call themselves "POWER users". These are the people I deal with everyday. So unless the 3% can collectively educate the 97%, what else can be done? And yes, I want to be a Billionaire. But, just having the know-how in this field does not get you far, with your knowledge I am sure I am just preaching to the choir.

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Morete

I went into a Microsoft store today and noticed that something seemed out of place....there was not even ONE traditional desktop on display. All of the PCs were laptops and All-In-One's. A year ago, 35% of the PCs they had on display were desktops. I asked a sales rep why no desktops and he stated that Microsoft is trying to move people away from desktops with towers and trying to get everyone to use All-In-One PCs or laptops. I think this explains everything about Windows 8.

Sad...

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jeffreyac

Agreed - I always thought the proper business model was "Determine what the customer wants, then find a way to fill the need", not "Tell the customer what his/her needs are".

I just can't fathom how trying to push the market in a direction is a good move. I guess it's a gamble - if they succeed, then they'll be ideally set in a whole new market, one that they helped create. Of course, if they are wrong, they'll end up with a lot of annoyed folks.

So far, I'm in the camp of the annoyed...

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Neufeldt2002

I have to wonder if MS is cooking the books on this. When Windows 7 was released they (MS) were releasing alot of data on Sales, etc. Now with Windows 8 we have MS reporting that sales are good, etc without any backup data. Then they turn around and complain that OEM partners aren't doing enough to push sales, and they (OEM's) are saying that they can't even sell what they have made. Something is fishy in Redmond I think. I would wager that it is a total of all devices that have sold 60 Million licenses. The OS itself, RT, and phone combined. Unless MS actually releases a break down of the sales, I don't buy what they are selling here, too many others making counter claims against MS claims.

As a random thought, how much of this record revenue is from people buying Windows 7 before MS kills it completely?

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jeffreyac

"Our big, bold ambition to reimagine Windows as well as launch Surface and Windows Phone 8 has sparked growing enthusiasm with our customers and unprecedented opportunity and creativity with our partners and developers," said Steve Ballmer, chief executive officer at Microsoft.

Oh, so that's what that gnawing feeling of dread I have is when I wonder if I'll have to buy my new laptop with windows 8 - growing enthusiasm.

Glad they cleared that up for me.

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Eoraptor

Sorry, to a person, everyone I have talked to has returned or regifted their windows 8 computers within two months of getting them. So I imagine that, if the 60 million number is anywhere even tangential to reality, it's only counting on license stickers Microsoft has printed, not on actual machines in the wild. Frankly it calls back to the windows ME days when people were out scouring shelves to find windows 98 se disks after ME came out because it too was a turd. Unfortunately, unlike the days of ME, we don't have the luxury of knowing XP is in the pipeline a few months out this time.

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Fenthic

Actually their numbers count for all licenses sold not just printed. That said there is a catch. The licenses sold part also includes licenses sold to OEM's such as Lenovo, Toshiba, Dell, HP, Gateway. Where there maybe thousands of computers still sitting in OEM inventory, in stores in inventory or on store shelves just still waiting to be sold. Your best source of adoption rates are those sites that track individual computers and the computers specs such as Steam and others.

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Electrik

"Microsoft is said to be blaming PC makers for not being ready with more attractive Windows 8-based touchscreen tablets."

Who the hell do they think they are? Instead of a thoughtful, methodical approach spanning two OS cycles with an eventual choice of platforms, they simply command all manufacturers of all devices to do their bidding.

But then, there’s this gem;

"In response, Microsoft's hardware partners say that had they built up a stock of Windows 8 tablets, they'd be stuck with a bunch of devices that nobody wants."

Karma, the great equalizer.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Sounds Legit...

and Ballmer sure looks happy...

I'm Sold!

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john867

I'm beginning to wonder if windows is a dead man walking. I was just thinking about UNIX and trying to remember all the operating systems out there for all computers of any kind that are *NOT* UNIX based. I think it is only PCs and Surface. Even Apple uses a version of UNIX now for all their products including the iPhone.

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davelray

Uh oh, here gomes the H8er Squad. Doesn't matter whether the news is good or bad, there's the same posse of people spewing forth the hate on Windows 8 and doomsaying Microsoft. It's getting old guys. Retire your rants and ignore the Windows 8 / Microsoft articles. You have nothing to add. Your comments have all been heard before. And few of them are even arguably legitimate. I, and many others here, have been running Windows 8 without issue for months now. None of us have your problems and we could care less about your rants. As for you Linux guys (fanboys,) when Linux can run my software and games the way I want them to run, and run just as well as they do under Windows, maybe then I'll consider Linux a viable operating system.

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DoctorX

do us a favor and just dont come over to linux, we dont want idiots like you over there. Just stay here with your fellow asshats that spew hateful shit like this and embrace your kissing cousins of iSheep. People like you that spit this vitrol deserve each other.

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livebriand

And YOU, sir, are being an asshat. Go away....

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