Microsoft Announces Limited Time Windows 8 Upgrade Discount for Windows 7, XP and Vista Users

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Jacob Stanbery

Looks like 7 is turning into the new XP. It's really sad that people will completely shun something new because it's different. If you guys would give it a chance without already making you mind up that you have it, you may really like it. Just uninstall the metro apps, and it becomes very similar to 7. Also: if we *really* needed the start button, Microsoft wouldn't have removed it.

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Neufeldt2002

Jacob, Most people here that are complaining have been building computers for well over a decade or two. What they are complaining about is the fact that Windows 8 Metro is Windows 3.1 redux (Meaning it is a throw back to DOS and the 3.1 way of doing things). We have gone away from running one or two programmes exclusively, plus it isn't very good with a mouse and keyboard and is as ugly as hell. As for not giving it a chance, we know what works and what doesn't for us, after a day or two with something that is clearly an afterthought, it isn't worth it. I am glad you like it, just remember that there were people that liked and still like Vista. Heck I even liked ME as I had a computer that it actually worked on. But a dog is still a dog at the end of the day.

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Jacob Stanbery

The thing is, when you uninstall the Metro apps, you remove almost all of that 'ugly as hell' crap that 'isn't very good with a mouse and keyboard'. It makes windows run stuff in, say the normal photo viewer, instead of the Metro photo app. It makes it mostly the same as 7 but with some very nice speed/performance improvements.

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Mikey109105

I will not touch Windows 8 with any length pole, no matter how low they set the price. Hell, I don't even care if they make it free, still not buying it. They've killed off two important parts of Windows I use daily: The start button and Aero. I won't upgrade to a new Windows System until they get their shit together and revive the start button and aero. Kill Metro too, and they'l have had me sold. Oh well, I await news on Windows 9.

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Landstander

PASS!

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jonnyohio

I have not even bothered trying it. I saw the new metro ui and the missing start menu...even though I don't use my start menu as much as I used to there are times I do. I'm just not interested in spending money 'upgrading' my Windows 7, which i like, to something I probably will hate.

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DoctorX

i agree.. but i am running cp still... but ... and a big but... I do not use metro.. i have disabled it and using classic shell instead. It just got updated for rp. I turned off uac and havent missed it one bit.

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h e x e n

Like others have stated, Microsoft could give this OS away and I wouldn't use it. It's so freakishly unfamiliar to how I've always operated my windows systems that I'm unwilling to even try. That sounds shallow as hell, I know, but what's wrong with liking what is already in place? Do they really have to innovate on top of 7? What's wrong with 7's UI? It's familiar and it works. Recognizing and acknowledging when something is fine as it is, is better than attempting half ass innovation.

I'd actually buy an "enhanced" or "improved" version of 7 before I touched 8.

Too lazy to look, is 8 bundled with a new DirectX?

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VAMPYREANGELUS

i still use xp, i like it better then 7 so no way am i going to 8.

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Pball1224

You sir, are mistaken. Win7 can be made to look and feel quite similar to XP and has many system level advantages that make it MUCH faster. It sounds like Win8 however, can not be made to look at all like Win7, which is why I'm in no hurry to upgrade. (You can still hate on WinVista if you like.)

I really like Win7, and can easily see myself using it for another few years.

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VAMPYREANGELUS

i am not hating on 7, i just prefer xp.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Windows 7 will full format a 8Gb - 180X thumbdrive in 8 minutes (Patriot XPorter)
Windows XP will full format the same 8Gb - 180X thumbdrive in 8 seconds

Windows 7 will boot to desktop on a 105MB/sec Seagate with a 3.2Ghz CPU in 28 seconds
Windows XP will boot to desktop on a 330 Atom using a 300X Compact Flash Boot Disk in 12 seconds

(XP boots over twice as fast on a much slower system than 7)

Windows 7 requires at least 2.5 Gigabytes for installation
Windows XP requires about 600 Megabytes for installation

Windows 7 is a Gov't sponsored spyware platform and a DRM minefield
XP-SP2 is not

SP2?

Yes!

I've had only one virus in the past 7 years on XP-SP2 without ANY critical spyware updates (Only antivirus and anti-spyware updates)

By running all my needed app's as "portable" app's, registry conflicts are avoided and I have not had a single blue screen of death on over 5 years on XP

Windows 7 won't even run most of those applications

Now tell me how 7 is better or faster Mr Gates?

Then tell me why Microsoft chose to blacklist the certificate used to disseminate FLAME, the Gov't sponsored spyware in all the news recently after it was discovered over 3 years after it was released?

Are we to assume that they will simply blacklist each certificate one by one after we find Gov't Malware has been on our systems for several YEARS?

And tell me why Microsoft Security Essentials can update while it is blocked in our Firewalls on XP, Vista and Windows 7 systems?

Any program that OPENS backdoors into my system has nothing to do with "Security"

Not MINE anyway!

F$ck You Microsoft

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TheRyGuy

"Now tell me how 7 is better or faster Mr Gates?" One, Bill Gates no longer runs Microsoft. The way you're comparing OS's is astounding.

Megabytes to gigabytes: hard drives are WAY bigger (and faster) than they were when XP came out.

Boot times: XP is a less-featured, lighter OS than Windows 7.

I'd take W7 over XP any day. If you're worried about getting viruses/spyware, then you'd REALLY have to be careless about what you do on your computer. There's XP mode, albeit not on Home Premium. I find myself not even looking back, even when I went to Vista. What the heck are you still running that requires XP?

Trim support, DX11, better UI (in my opinion), and better support for current hardware are just a few reasons why I love W7. I might wait awhile before I go to W8, but it looks promising for tablets.

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Jacob Stanbery

I actually like Windows 8. If you uninstall the "apps" on your start screen, Windows will use normal stuff to open files. It makes the Metro UI pretty much disappear.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Don't want it to "pretty much disappear." Want it to DISAPPEAR. I don't want that stupid smart phone crap on my PC. I want a desktop with a pretty picture. I want an easy path to my applications. I don't need Microsoft telling me what I want to do with my computer; their operating system should facilitate my working needs, not subvert or redefine them.

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Jacob Stanbery

Just because something is new and different, people hate on it. Before I realized how to remove some of the metro and gotten used to it, it really wasn't that bad. If you give it a chance with an open mind and get used to the thing, you will really like it.

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loozer

That's exactly what you get. There would be no more smartphone crap because all of the metro apps would be uninstalled.

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Jacob Stanbery

Exactly! You'd still see the start screen when you first log on, but a couple of seconds shouldn't make people avoid an entire OS.

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renodude91

It's tempting because from what I've seen in the Dev Previews there are a few things I like but since I've had it on my 1 year old laptop I've had to use it with my tv as intel drivers do not work yet and it won't output to the laptops screen which makes me not want to upgrade to windows 8 anytime soon as I had similar issues with two other windows flops, Windows Me and Vista.. Apple here I come at last..

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big_montana

What Intel drivers? I have a 1 year old laptop as well with Intel HD 3000 graphics and I have had no issue with the display working at all. Intel is number 1 in mobile graphics and MS does not ignore that market when developing a new OS, even Vista worked with Intel graphics, which is what caused a lot of their issues, integrated graphics that had no business being labeled Vista ready, but MS caved to Intel's pressure.

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TechGoudy

I would like you to explain Intel being No. 1 in mobile graphics. Intels IGP sucks right now, although it is getting better.

I can only assume that you mean the number of mobile netbooks, laptops, and ultrabooks that contain Intels IGP are making them No. 1 in mobile graphics being sold, in terms of graphical processing they are still lagging being the rest.

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ddimick

I believe he's referring to volume, not performance. Unarguably more people use embedded than discrete GPUs, and most of those embedded are Intel.

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big_montana

I agree that Intel graphics do suck. I had a choice of a discrete GPU with my laptop but it would have put my price over the budget I had set, and I was not willing to sacrifice memory for a better graphical experience. Since I do not game on my laptop I can live with Intel, for now.

And yes, I am talking about numbers sold, not quality of the experience. If it was based on quality than Intel would be last.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Thanks Mom

and how about you?

Do you have a few extra hours a week to spread Pro Windows 8 Propaganda on these sites?

Contact Microsoft for details

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neural0

Bullwinkle, you are by far my favorite troll. Thanks for making me smile.

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Rapoffice

It is really great, but I am not able to install in windows 8 . I wouldn't upgrade if it was free!
http://www.rapofficecontracts.com/

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maxeeemum

LOL! Upgrade to Windows 8! You must be kidding! It's a downgrade!

The average user will not be able to figure it out.

Windows 8 will be M$ biggest failure. Win8 is DOA!

I wouldn't upgrade if it was free!

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maxeeemum

M$ employee or just a fan boy???

The DP was really bad, the CP even worse and the RP no better. It's all done just stick a fork in it. I'll just sit back and laugh as M$ tries to sell this debacle.

Just watch Win9 will come out before April 2014. (Does that date sound familiar)

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Meat_Juice

No thanks MS. Not even for $20.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Microsoft couldn't PAY me to install Windows 8 on one of my PC's.

If I wanted a phone, I'd buy a phone.

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Ghok

Funny thing, this past week I've been noticing just how much I actually do use my Start Menu...

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Why would anyone PAY for Closed Source State Sponsored Spyware / Extortionware ?

REAL Men run whatever they need on "their" O.S. and never see a blue screen of death

REAL Men record "What they Hear" on "their" O.S. and simply say NO to DRM

Castrated F*&KTerds prefer to only run only what MonopolySoft allows
Boot Only what MonopolySoft allows...
and open all their files and encrypted volumes to the N.S.A.

Grow some Balls F*&KTerds

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ddimick

Initially I was worried I didn't care enough about which OS I run, but now I'm relieved that you care more than enough for both of us. Load off my mind.

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Slurpy

I tried to grow some balls, but the controller card for my lighting and hydroponics system didn't have Linux-compatible drivers.

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neural0

LOL +1

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Meat_Juice

I want to subscribe to your news letter.

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SilverSurferNHS

I like your style.

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PowerJunkie

So far they're is nothing appealing to me about windows 8, I'll most likely skip it. XP had strong staying power and I think 7 does as well. Just when I'm getting groovy with 7 they're going to be releasing 8? I'm not done with 7 yet. 7, 8, 9 ... OMG I cant keep up. I have a "feeling" 8 is a mistake for desktop users. We'll see. Lovin' 7!!!

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ThomFrost

i have been beta testing win8 for over 6 months now and the metro interface while nice for phones and tablets is useless for systems with keyboard and mouse.
not sure about anyone else but except for my laptop's i usually set 5+ feet away from my screen. also it bug me seeing finger print marks and track marks on my phone and tablet.

if m$ makes it so that a user can go back to the old win7 type interface i think win8 will be a big fail for m$, maybe worse then win me.

@John Pombrio: you do know the new technet sub limits you to 5 now not 10 keys?

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John Pombrio

As long as they don't pull the "you have to install Win7 before you can install Win8" routine again.
I just renewed my TechNet subscription in order to get Win8 install licenses when they come out. The nice thing is that they are full retail and allow 10 machines running concurrently for each license.
I have been swinging Win8 since the 1st beta and am running it now. There is enough improvements under the hood to make it worth my while to upgrade all my machines. Its not a big a leap as from WinXP to Win7, but I notice the Win7 compromises when I go back to it now. I am on Win8 for good. As for Metro, I skip over it so fast that I never even notice any more...

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ThomFrost

the new agreement for the past year limits you to 5 not 10 keys.

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damicatz

Microsoft could GIVE Windows 8 away and I still wouldn't use it.

There are two deal breakers that absolutely must go if they ever want me to "upgrade to it" :

1.The walled-garden app store model. It is my computer and I should be able to control what I install on it. Jailbreaking is unacceptable; my time is valuable and I have better things to do than work around user-hostile software. It also is important to have an open software distribution model in the name of freedom and democracy; to prevent governments from having a means to control the content on everyone's computer.

2.Secure boot. This is another unacceptable power grab by Microsoft which hampers the distribution of non-Microsoft operating systems by requiring them to purchase a "key" from Microsoft (OEM level integration is not practical because very few alternative operating systems have the influence to negotiate with them).

The ability to disable secureboot remains completely at the whim of the OEM; who's to say they won't turn off the ability to disable it a few years down the line? In addition, it makes it harder for alternative operating systems to compete with Windows because it requires users to fiddle around in their UEFI configuration screen unless they pay Microsoft for a secureboot key.

*I* will decide what does and does not boot on *MY* computer. Not Microsoft and not Intel. Secureboot does not make your computer more secure (remember, anyone can buy a key if they have the money) and bootsector "viruses" are almost non-existent in this day and age.

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spacespeed

Secure boot is ultimately a combined hardware/software feature, though. You'll only get it on computers which support this in BIOS.

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damicatz

Well, it is actually UEFI, not BIOS.

I have never been a fan of UEFI because UEFI is essentially DRM at the system level. It offers benefits, yes, but it also has a lot of dangerous drawbacks pertaining to the ability of the user to modify the code and of course, restricted ("secure") boot.

Fortunately, AMD has decided to embrace CoreBoot, which is an alternative BIOS replacement not encumbered by DRM or other restrictions that benefit the pockets of corporate executives at the expense of your freedom.

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loozer

After de-metroizing windows 8 (youtu.be/bJnutLKIzzU), it's just a super-cheap version of windows 7 pro.
Not really worth an upgrade from 7, but for a new system or something running xp, it's a cheap alternative to win-7. I just might be buying an upgrade copy for my desktop.

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I think that makes it cheaper to upgrade to 8 pro than to upgrade windows 7 home premium to pro/ultimate.

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whathuhitwasntme

Ok maybe somebody here can explain this to me.

Up until now it has been YEARS between windows OS release updates.
Windows 95(probably the last stable OS they had)
Win98
WinME
xp
vista
win 7
for example
now you expect me to believe that the genius' that gave us VISTA(and the insane concept of approved vendor hardware or no drivers for you) and WINme are suddenly able to produce a complete and stable OS in less than a year?
really?
no really?
I get that they need a phone OS to compete with android handsets that are currently cornering them and taking their collective lunch monies. But to try and shove desktop users into a mobile OS? What bit of logic was used to decide we should all be mobile phone computers?

My typical pc has no less than 3 hard drives(including a SSD) 2 video cards ( I fold@home) and reasonably "NEAR" the best cpu I can afford. But my phone has a better system to run all that gear? I think NOT.

IF it is M$ intent to force everybody into a linux distro this sounds like an excellent way to do it.

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big_montana

Win 95 stable? Yea right. Vista was more stable once the vendors started releasing stable drivers for it. Win 7 is more stable than it or XP. Also, MS has been working on Win 8 longer than a year. They probably have a team working on Win 9, as it usually takes them 5 years to develop a stable production ready OS, which means two teams side by side interdependently working, one on the next release and the second team the future OS. Win 8 does support multiple HDD, so does you phone, if it has external memory (which is a HDD), and to say that Win 8 will not support multiple DD and GPU's and is nothing but a prettier version o f mobile OS is disingenuous at best and ignorant on your end fo rnot learning the in's and outs of the OS and what it can and cannot do (such as true multi tasking)

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Scatter

You lost me when you called Windows 95 a stable OS.

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SilverSurferNHS

me too, i was like da fuq he just say???

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