MacBook Pro Users Complain of Freezing Issues

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jedisamurai

It never ceases to amaze me how people keep getting stirred up when PC World/Maximum PC/insert-your-fav-pc-mag-here reports on Apple products good or bad. Trolls take the opportunity to stir people up, Apple fans say that the PC mag is biased, PC fans say that the mag is biased (and they do it for opposite fan-boy reasons) and the poor magazine/site staff let out a sigh of "We're just reporting the news you morons." Of course, reporting any problems with Apple products is almost asking for Trolls and fan-boys these days, isn't it?

 

Peace Out

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Engelsstaub

Really? Am I the Apple fanboi just because I'm finally calling bullshit on the Thunderbolt thing? Please read the comments and then tell me if this is the same thing.

You mentioned PC World:I can count at least three articles PC World has done demonstrating the future of Thunderbolt since the release of the first computers with the standard. That's what this is about. It's beyone bias. It's gotten to the point of technological ignorance due to some retarded blinding hatred for one computer manufacturer.

And if they are just reporting the news then please give me the link where they talk about my Alienware's universal latency problems. At least Apple acknowledged and fixed theirs. Dell did neither. And this story doesn't even mention that immediate fix to a problem that comes naturally with early-adoption of new technologies.

If it's not just some selective reporting and agenda-based bias then it's piss-poor journalism at the very least.

 

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Engelsstaub

You know what I find obnoxious (other than the obvious supposed-nonconformist Wintrolls commenting on this site) is the fact that this should be considered newsworthy on Maximum PC. 

I see a bunch of apparent adolescent tryhards enabled by the staff of Maximum PC. You know, it's funny (and somewhat expected) to hear Gordon Mah Ung constantly rant about his "love" of Apple computers but this is actually getting ridiculous. Compare the initial manufacturing "snafus" of Apple computers to that of nearly any Win-based PC manufacturer... now look at the amount of articles on here dedicated to those. Taking into account also the obvious difference in marketshare it's ridiculous. It makes Maximum PC, and us readers, look like a bunch of idiots. Are we??

A note to the staff at Maximum PC -- especially those heard on the Podcast: WHERE THE FUCK IS THE COVERAGE OF THUNDERBOLT NOW? You guys were (rightfully) jacked about "Lightpeak" technology before you found out Apple got something first for a change. This is, as you know, a very innovative and revolutionary technology that obviously makes the need for other connections moot. A USB 3 adaptor can be used on such a port. HDMI can be outputed from this port. What the fuck is wrong with you people? SERIOUSLY. Nathan Edwards: "Am I the only one who feels betrayed that Apple got Lightpeak?" Apparently not, Mr. Edwards.

You guys turn this into some stupid game. Some idiotic "Apple Lies and Conspiracies" "my product choices are better than your product choices" BS to the detriment of your own supposed credibility. I used to like reading and listening. I always trusted the advice of this current staff and valued your reviews on PC hardware and software (unlike most other publications) I'm starting to unfortunately see the current Maximum PC for what it really is: your commentators reflect your supposed professionalism.

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Exarkun1138

So, why don't you tell us all what you REALLY think?

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AKap64

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Engelsstaub

hhtp..."AMD doesn't like Thunderbolt because they won't make money off of it."

I didn't miss any of this. I'm a reader of both the magazine and the website. Am I just too demanding in thinking that MaxPC could possibly do a test on some new "bleeding-edge" technology? Maybe someone would have to buy one of those MBPs but it certainly wouldn't be those who are "theologically opposed" to doing so (right, Nathan?) I'm sure the HDD they set on fire came out of corporate expense.

Just a thought.

 

 

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Aksparks04

 

...this is a PC site.  Hence Maximum "PC".  It is supposed to be somewhat biased.  Of course all of the apple sites and magazines NEVER have any ill words written towards PC manufacturers or choose to report on their problems.  And, of course, their ceo is such a standup guy that he never has anything negative to say about his competitors either :D

In short, chill out.  Read a crapple news site if you are so offended.  

By the way, Engelsstaub, literally every time max pc posts something that shows apple in a negative light, someone like you responds with the same message.  If you thought you were the first one to bring this grave injustice to light, you're not.  You have just wasted part of your life beating a dead horse.  This has been said countless times.  In fact, it has been a very annoying reoccurrence for quite some time.  Therefore, congratulations for discovering and exploring this exceedingly important issue.

 

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Engelsstaub

Somewhat biased? I wish it was somewhat biased. Apparently I've not adequately illustrated that it goes so far above and beyond that that it ignores new and important technology just because Intel chose to let Apple get it first.

Really? It's been said before about the Lightpeak/Thunderbolt thing? My penultimate point?? I missed that. I'm sorry it's an annoying recurrence to you. I promise after this I'll leave the lot of you to your Amen Corner wherein you all congratulate each other for being some sort of computer-rebels who think for themselves while rocking the OS that 9 out of 10 people use (MYSELF INCLUDED.)  ;)

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Aksparks04

Wonderful rebuttals.  And, yes, I do actually consider myself a tad bit against the grain.  Rebel is a bit much, but since mac has become the coolaid of choice these days and is constantly pushed by celebrities (which is a strike against them being a viable tech choice right there) the term sort of fits.   I still am not understanding why it is so unfathomable that mac tech is not covered in depth on a pc tech site?  Your point is that maxpc is biased?  Bravo captain obvious.

Also, why so angry?  We are arguing over computer operating systems you know...  It is a tad overkill.  See, macs just do not work for some of us.  Period.  Mac OS and hardware can only take you so far.  There are plenty of things that I cannot enjoy if I used a mac.  Please don't make me type them out -- it should be obvious.  To me, that's the big pitfall of the Mac vs PC argument.  Imo, this is precisely why the  PC argument side just makes more sense.  There are things I cannot do on a Mac.  This is untrue of my PC.  Why would I want to pay a premium price to limit myself?  And....that's about it.   

 

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Engelsstaub

Gaming is really the only thing I could think of with Macs being a bit behind the curve. I talked my brother into getting a Mac because I got tired of being his free IT guy--removing his viruses on a weekly basis. I've replaced every program he used on Windows with a similar program and we're both pretty happy ;)

(Your observation that it's "considered cool" by snobs/celebrities is really of no consequence. It's somewhat true, but it just really doesn't matter to me. If I wanted a Mac I would buy a Mac. Hitler loved dogs. That's not going to stop me from having a dog as a pet. But you're entitled to your reasons as well as anyone else.)

Macs  command a premium price, I agree. For a lot of people there's no conceivable benefit to switching platforms. Win7 is more than decent and computers that come with it are generally a better value. Price-to-spec. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is the newest MBAs. They seem to be a good value as a luxury thin&light when well-configured.

My point, and why I'm angry, is Thunderbolt (formerly Lightpeak.) I remember these guys being stoked about it BEFORE a certain computer company got it first. I have taken a lot and learned a lot from this magazine and its staff/articles. Thunderbolt is one of the biggest deals in current computing. I feel that it's extremely petty to now dismiss it just because of Apple-bias. Who cares if Apple got something first? I surely don't. Apple and MS have been ripping each others ideas off for years. It's actually a good thing IMO. It benefits us as end-users regardless of our platforms.

I was eagerly awaiting the straight-dope from Max PC on the new technology but it's apparent that, at best, I'll get it when it comes to PCs. At worst, they'll just hypocritically continue to ignore (or worse denounce) it even then. Just because of some stupid anti-Apple thing.

...it's more extreme disappointment than anger. It's not just Mac-tech anymore than DisplayPort is Mac-tech.

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Caboose

Waa waa waa

 

Apple has made themselves out to be the perfect computer company. They don't ever have issues like those damn dirty Windows computers do. They "just work". Got a problem with your computer? Why, get a Mac, then you'll never have a problem, ever again! Don't like to install a driver for your printer? Does it take you an hour to perform a 5min task because 2 mouse buttons and "Click next to continue" confuses you? Get a mac!

But when Macs have an actual problem. Whether its OS or hardware related, its either the user causing the issue (they're holding it wrong). Or its not something that Apple is concerned about. And don't you even DARE bringing to light the security holes and the fact that certain things go years before they're patched because Apple will denouce it and call you a lier. And then they'll fix the issue in the next service pack and make you pay $99.99 for it.

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Engelsstaub

(Staff: here's your general-readership^)

 

And why do you care, Caboose? Is someone forcing you to buy a Mac?

Judging by your opening line and the way you've spelled liar I'm thinking I'd  have a better conversation with one of my kids. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt/prove me wrong and address some real issues. Unless you're just a "Mac-wannabe that wishes he or she had one but doesn't and so must villainize not only the corporation but people who use them." ...because that's what it sounds like when you feel the need to argue with a Windows-user like myself beginning with lines like "Waa waa waa."

I have an Alienware m15x with SERIOUS latency issues (among others.) There are countless pages of threads dedicated to user complaints regarding this issue. Dell refuses to even acknowledge said issues at all (not even "admit" them while making excuses like "you're holding it wrong.") I paid far more for that laptop than any MacBook Pro. There's one example from my personal experience. 

What is your personal experience with Macs, Caboose?

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big_montana

Don't want to get into your flame war, but I stopped taking Alienware seriously when they sold out, and started selling their wares in the mainstream market (meaning through Best Buy), and I really quit taking them seriously as a top tier, and reliable gaming platform when Dell purchased them, knowing the quality issues surrounding everything Dell manufactures (except their XPS line which is made by Asus for Dell). If I were in the market for a gaming system, the first boutique vendor I would look to is Falcon Northwest followed by Origin, Sager, CyberPower, iBuyPower to name a few. Just my two cents worth.

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Engelsstaub

No worries, big_montana. We're just having a friendly little discussion that's quickly headed OT :P

If anyone should be inflamed by my comments it should be the staff of MaxPC. I have this imaginary thing going on in my head (not quite so unlike the one where people give a shit about Apple vs. MS vs. whatever:) I like to think that because nobody from the site/staff is responding that what's obvious to me is correct.

Regarding Alienware I couldn't agree more. They still "look cool" but I wish I'd considered your advice a little over a year ago. I actually didn't even know Asus made the XPS for Dell. If that's the case I'd sure consider one. I have a bit of respect for Asus. But then again I could just buy an Asus the next time I get an off-the-shelf laptop.

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win7fanboi

hope Apple's paying for your pysch visits :)

"....Both the Safari browser and the iPhone became early victims in the Pwn2Own competition (along with Firefox and IE). ZDNet’s Ryan Naraine reports that contestant Charlie Miller managed to hack into a MacBook by exploiting a critical Safari browser vulnerability. Meanwhile, another research team managed to hack the iPhone and hijack the SMS database...."

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/mac/safari-browser-and-iphone-hacked-in-pwn2own-contest-at-cansecwest/417

btw, no biggie if your macbook freezes... just take it to the apple store and a genuis will be happy to help you.

He might also give you a pacifier to calm you down... I hear they are really helpful :)

I love Mac thunderjolts ... push a button and they keep huffing and puffing for hours

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Engelsstaub

Did you miss the part about me being a PC-user?? So who were you addressing when you told me to take my MacBook to an Apple Store??

Moron. As to the rest of your comment I think I need more help with my comprehension than my psychiatric health. I completely missed the point of your post. Completely.

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25B.Lagerstrom

Well, if you look at the Wiki page linked in the article, you'll see that Apple has fixed the issue with the latest update to Mac OS X 10.6.7

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Exarkun1138

Well goody for Apple.......

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25B.Lagerstrom

Meh, I'm no fan of Apple, but just thought I'd put that in there.

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Exarkun1138

Cool! 

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Exarkun1138

The users are just holding it wrong when they type, that's all. 

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Caboose

Exactly!

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big_montana

Sounds like a memory issue to me. I remember my old Dell laptop had the same issue. Dell changed the specs on the memory but did not tell the memory manufacturer, Micron, so the memory was made to the old specs. This would cause the laptops to freeze under heavy loads. Could be the possible cause here as well, but I am just guessing, as it is hard to troubleshoot without having one in front of you (will never happen, as the G5 was the last Apple product I will ever own).

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Ledoubleu

Maybe a little.....Sorry Apple owners. The real world is invading your collective conciousness.

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Julyjules

Oh no! Does that mean Apple is not perfect? End of the world!

 

I'd like to see the face of Apple's employees and customers when the guy reproduced the problem on all these new Macbooks.

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