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Mac Users Are Whiny Losers. Love, Maximum PC

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We don't like taking on the role of enforcer, nor do we like bullying those ill equipped to defend themselves. But sometimes, for the greater good of all involved, as PC users we feel obligated to step in and lay the smack down when our Mac brethren come asking for it. In a way, we feel like Billy Madison did when he told a bunch of first graders "Now you're all in big, big trouble" before proceeding to pummel them in dodgeball.

Well, Mac users have come asking for it, courtesy of our friends over at MacLife (Maximum PC's sister magazine) who this week posted 25 Reasons Why Non-Mac Users Should Shut Their Damn Pie-Holes. To borrow from Billy Madison, now you're in big, big trouble. Here are our retorts:

1. Justin Long is a dick - There are only two people who are fans of Justin Long, his agent and his mother. And to be perfectly honest, we're not even sure about the latter.

2. Shinier = better - Just because your computer is shiny and aluminum doesn't mean it's better. We'll take a Lenovo X300 over a MacBook Air any day.

3. We don't want to be Steve Jobs' bitch - You guys constantly get reamed by the House of Jobs, whether it's the incessant train of forced hardware upgrades, lightning fast price cuts, or the industry standard features that Apple supports with proprietary implementations, Mac users get hit where it hurts most--the wallet.

4. OS X is awesome - It's not nice to pick on disadvantaged folks (it's the reason why we seldom pick on Mac users). We all know that OS X is awesome, but we defend Vista even though it sucks because it's what we're stuck with. Just because you've got something that's better, doesn't mean you need to get all Justin Long about it.

5. Team Fortress 2 kicks ass - We believe you when you say you have more important things to do than play games. Like sitting in Starbucks dressed in stonewashed jeans wishing you could play games. But hey, Oregon Trail still rocks, right?

6. Elmo had a line, too - We can't dispute that hundreds waited in line for the Mac OS X Leopard release, just as many also clamored for the Tickle Me Elmo doll when it first came out. But we're still not trading in our cooler toys to get one.

7.  We have Newegg - Intel P45 motherboard: $99. Core 2 Duo E8400: $170. 2GB DDR3-1333 RAM: $80. Not having to throw away your PC and buy a brand new one when it comes time to upgrade: Priceless.

8. Secure in our insecurity - You love to tout the lack of viruses targeted towards Macs as an indication that Macs are more secure, but could it be that even hackers don't give a f*** about Mac users? In a way, it'd be like invading Iceland. It's not that it can't be done, but what's the point?

9. Mighty Mouse -  Like all things Mac, the Mighty Mouse is cute. And also mighty lame compared to the Logitech G5 PC users have been computing with for the past 24 months. But then again, what would a Mac user do with all those buttons?

10. Who compiles 25 reasons of why Macs don't suck? - Mac users do. And while we'd love to spend time coming up with 25 retorts, we have better things to do. Like play games, run executables, overclock, watch NBC Olympics On The Go, and not overpay for under powered hardware.

Will Smith contributed to this story. Image Credit: Flickr super-structure

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avatarExcellent article guys!

I couldn't agree more.  We all know Apple makes a decent OS...but it's the pretentious attitude that comes with ownership that burns our #####.  Congratulations - you own a MAC.  Now shut up about it!!!

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avatarHow-To Guide

What ruins a joke are the comment trolls. I can understand Maximums sarcasm. They made a 6 page article on how to run OSX on a PC so at least they use it. More than what most could say here. 

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avatarI Pod is Crap

I worked at 2 different Best Buy stores a few years back.  A geek squad manager once told me that they get more Apple Ipods of various types back as defective more then any other product they sell.  This figure is adjusted for the number sold.  He said depending on the type of ipod; they were seeing between 20% and 50% product failure rate inside 90-days from purchase, this was aprox in 2004-05.  Most of these Ipods were simply bricked. That's right, at this time, Ipods had a higher failure rate then any other product Best Buy sold.  

 

You wanna know the brand of Mp3 player that we saw fail the least?  Sony.  For each Sony Mp3 player sold (of any type) we had fewer units being returned for repair or due to defect then any other brand of Mp3 player.  According to the same manager, the difference was not small, the number of Sony's coming back was exceptionally low.  

 

 

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avatarBut with MAC YOU PAY FOR AN

But with MAC YOU PAY FOR AN GOOD WARRANTY!!!!! AND WHO MADE THE MOST POPULAR MP3 PLAYER!!?!!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!

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avatarSince when did anyone want

Since when did anyone want to buy an overpriced piece of shiny advertisement?!

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avatarThe reason people buy Macs

The reason people buy Macs is due to either A. a lack of research about what they are buying or B. word of mouth by another person who didn't do thier research.

That's why people hate you Mac users, you're dumb and don't know it because you're too stuck up with yourselves.

Until you research what you buy, Apple will continue to screw you on items you're spending too much money for.

And until THEN, we will continue to laugh at how Apple makes that much money off morons.

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avatarThe Celebrity Mac User List

I dare you to try to list all, or even most, of the celebrities who use PCs.

Also, did anyone else notice how Justin Long, the "Mac" representative in their famous ad campaign, isn't in that list?  Interesting.

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avatarPC vs. MAC

"Hey PC, whatcha doing?"

"Playing Fallout 3"

 "I can do that...sorta"

"Technically MAC, but first you have to become me."

 

 

Can't remember where I found that, probably using stumble. 

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"When you always know what is right, where is freedom? No one chooses the wrong, Jacen Solo. Uncertianty sets you free."

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avatarWicked!!!

All this stuff is cool! Big Danny :))

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avatarApalling

I feel like a sadomasochist when I have to cope with MS half made software. and apple just expensivly sells pc hardware. So lets rather use the time we have for something more creative.

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avatarBoth crap, but

Imagine how much damage became from your 90% market share. And gas guzling. For what, hi-fi gaming?

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avatarThose 25 reasons are bunk

...not to mention their filled with something comparible to what's inside a twinky...

15. Weʼve got better friends. <--are you kidding me, they're all actors.

12. Weʼve got more important things to do than play games all day. <-- um, have you seen their own commercials, all they do is make pretty pictures and listen to iTunes.

...and also form the point above comes number 19...

19. Not only are the products better, Apple has better ads than PCs too. <-- PC's don't need ads becuase they own 90% of the market. 

lastly, a false bit of history here:

22. Speaking of mice... PC users might want to take a second and thank the success of the Macintosh for the one theyʼve got in their hands today. Yeah, you're welcome. <--WRONG, we and MAC have Douglas Engelbart to thank for inventing the mouse in 1963 and XEROX for putting it to use on their system in 1981.  Don't take credit for something you did not create and have never been able to make ergonomic.

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avatarFastest way to accelerate your MAC

Any oldie but a goodie that still applies...

Whats the fastest way to accelerate your MAC?

....at 9.81 m/s squared!

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avatarGreat Job!

Why didn't I think of that comment?  The best way to accelerate a MAC = Gravity!! :-D 

-=Do unto others... THEN RUN!!=-

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avatarHaaahaaaaa Mac dudes in Orange County

I can look back to my highschool-college years, and remember all of the priceless moments my friends and I have. Majority of us PC, a hand full of rebel guys, mac guys. would argue PC VS Mac. Here are the things they always made known,

1. PC'S SUCK, THEY ALWAYS LOCK UP AND HAVE DRIVER/SOFTWAE PROBLEMS. MACS DO NOT.

ANSWER: MACS ONLY HAVE PHOTO SHOP AND A PINBALL GAME AS FAR AS SOFTWARE. IF PC'S HAD THE MAC'S PUNY TITLES THEN THEY WOULD NEVER CRASH EITHER.

2. PC'S ARE LOW END CHEAP COMPUTERS WHILE MACS ARE THE ULTIMATE MACHINES. REMEMBER GUYS THEY USED TO LAUGH AND SAY, HAHHAASHITTY INTEL CRAP! POWERPC FOREVER BABEY!

ANSWER: HAAAA, NOW YOU CHANGED TO FOLLOW THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE ULTIMATE PC. WHY ARE YOU GUYS SWITCHING TO PC STUFF. HOWS THAT INTEL INSIDE..LOL

 

 3. WINDOWS SUCKS, OSX DOMINATES

ANSWER: HAHAHAA YOU GUYS USING WINDOWS NOW...WELLL IF U CAN BEAT US, JOIN US....LOL

 

BUT TO MAKE MAC USERS FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, I RECOMEND CALLING YOUR WINOWS, I-WINDOWS...EHH LIKE THAT? LOL

 

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avatarMacLife article IS WHINY!

I just finished reading the dribble that your sister mag, MacLife, published as referenced in your article and 'whiny' doesn't begin to describe that waste of electronic verbage.

Not only was their list of 25 reasons (less really, since many were rewrites or sub complaints of the original reason above it) mainly subjective (IE: opinion, judgement, assumption, etc.) there wasn't a single compelling reason to switch to Mac (except that it might make one FEEL better); whereas MaxPC's article is almost completely objective (IE: observable, factual, able to be counted, etc) and offers substantial arguments in which PC users benefit over Mac users.

I don't need to FEEL better about my using a PC for most of my daily work or play time...I EXPERIENCE a richer enviroment; one in which I have the abiltiy to choose what I want to do, alter my outcome based on things that are important to me; when I want to change/do something "outside the box," both figuratively and physically, I have the freedom and ability to do so.

Oh, and the argument that there aren't "eight year old pc's" running today, as well as they ever were, is complete bunk. My personal PC is ten years old...granted, it doesn't have many of its original parts/OS in it, I'd put it up against any Mac today for both performance and total cost to maintain/upgrade...especially the illeged eight year old G4 mentioned in the article. (Poor jerk must hate waiting DAYS to render his edited videos with that old hag)

As for an objective, positive note for the iMac/Macbook Pro systems available today...thank the Maker that Apple dropped Motorola's chipset and adopted Intel's...Now that those systems are essentially PC's on the inside and using what is really just a repackaged and locked down Linux based OS, those systems can be useful in their niche of the world...Keeping the Apple Borg collective busy spending more time and money to get the latest in SHINEY stuff while us PC users take over the world! Bwahahahahhaahahhhaaa!

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avatarTeam fortress 2 does not

Team fortress 2 does not kick ass.  Team fortress 2 used to kick ass, now it sucks ass.  THANK YOU VALVE FOR ADDING ACHIEVEMENTS AND TURNING A GREAT FPS INTO A SHIT RPG.

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avatarDude, calm down...

 Really, you should just calm down about TF2. The achievement thing may piss off a lot of people, but you don't have to get them. Also, thewriter of this article could have said Counter Strike or Fallout or Crysis or Halo. The point was that we PC users can game, while those Mac userscan only grovel for more Marble Blast or wait another decade for a Blizzard game to be released.

 

Also, this was probably said already, you can totally tell that tey were really stretching there list with useless entries. Really, FOUR ENTRIES ABOUT LOOKS AND NOT ABOUT USABILITY?????

OOOOOOO.... I CAN"T BUY A PC CAUSE ITS TOO BIG AND UGLY FOR MY FAKE TURTLENECK WEARING GRANDMASTEROFALLTHINGS STEVEFRIKINJOBS.... OOOOOOOOO.........

 

Sorry it just came out....

 

OMGWTFBBQ

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avatarLikewise. Linux is dead to non-IT bred computer users.

Click to install and compatibility are not dirty words.  I shouldn't need a software engineering degree to install applications either.

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avatarHow to end this eternal battle!!

All you'd have to do to end this Apples/Window$... and Linux(?) battle royale would me to hand out guns becuase all the Apples/Window$ users would shoot each other on sight while the Linux users would go to a secluded area to try to disasemble their weapon in order to figure out how to improve it! And WHY is this thread tagged LINUX, anyway?? Apples is DEAD to the Linux community, though we sometimes like to install a PPC Linux distro on a Mac, after thouroghly removing the original Mac OS! our main realm is the PC, and all other unlocked hardware, not especially Mac crap. Those that say we share a heritage with apples are wrong, that ended with the original closed source Unix, some kind of which apples aquired in it's early days. No kind of closed source Unix was made into Linux, the original kernel was a complete rewrite of a Unix kernel, released on a public license, compiled for PC's from a Minix OS running on a PC!! So please give the linux community some respect because we believe in adapting the OS to our own needs, istead of adapting to some big heads idea of an OS. By the way, don't try Linux, if you are waiting for a jobs or a bill to spell out how you will do your computing,  you are not worthy!! 

 

Linux = the Future NOW!!

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avatarOpensource

Linux won't go anywhere in the mainstream until the command line is gone. The average pc or mac user doesn't have any idea how to use it and they don't want to learn the commands. They also don't want to go through so many steps to install driivers for newly released hardware. 

To go mainsteam Linux will have to be dumbed down, and then it won't be any different than windows or osx at that point. 

I use Ubuntu and Mandriva and I hate installing drivers for new hardware. Software installs are easy though.

 

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avatarso much negative input.....I have found use for both.

I used to be a PC only guy and recently purchased an iMac.  I am very happy with my purchase and my transition to OS X has been quite perplexing.  I won't lie when i say it really does dummify/simplify a lot of things that I have done so far.  I seem to keep trying to use my Windows point of view and find that it is only simpler.

Anyhow, I can't help to say that my PC side will always be here, I still insist on attempting to build all my Externals vs buying the equivalent "Time Capsule" which is extemely overpriced, for what I beleive it does.  I purchased my iMac Tax Free via the Military.  Nonetheless, deep inside I know I really wanted to buy a crapload of parts from Newegg and build a beast with the same amount I spent for this Mac, even less!  But I just didnt want to deal with my Primary household PC being something that can potentially get a bad driver thru updates and give me a blue screen of death along with a wife chirping annoyingly...."I have a conference to attend, a paper to write, an instructor to get a hold of, etc. etc."  

 I'm getting a couple raises in my near future and can definetly say I can't wait to build myself a PC, and may be one of the first inline for Windows 7 when it arrives, just for my new Rig.  This wil be me and I like to say I enjoy both sides of the world. 

I may not be saying this if I was an avid Gamer.....its appeals to me, but I just can't find the time to disconnect.  Maybe when I retire.

OS X has been very friendly to me mostly.  Just trying to find Mac equivalents for what I did with my Old PC that crashed has been the most challenging part.  Nothing I havent been able to take on with a little patience.  

Also as I have read just about everywhere, Office Mac 08 is one of the worst things people have installed on thier macs, but I cant say I feel the same.  I have enjoyed it thus far.  We'll see.....cuz everything I do on this mac I have been viewing thru my PC eyes and havebeen pleased overall to this moment.  

Hope this desnt piss anybody off.

Just being honest

JM

 I recently subscribed to Mac/Life

However after looking at this last issue of MAXPC I can say I would miss this magazine entirely too much.  Not letting myself continue my subcription would be a frustrating pecking thought.  So I will renew my subscription.  I will bet much of my hard earned money that the Staff @ MXPC can dow what I can only wish they could do for Mac much better that thier Competition.

Also I learned once about how much a reply in silence could be more effective that a reply at all.

 

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avatarUh.. AH MAC SUCKS! Um OSX

Uh.. AH MAC SUCKS! Um OSX Is GAY!! I love my custom gaming rig that I upgrade every 6 months cuz it's fun (really it is lol).. um now I gotta go do some of my school work... on Vista.... that I boot camped on my MacBook Pro.

Lol Honestly, I like Mac, and I like Windwos. Both are great for what I use them for. I go to school with my MBP, get all my work done on that. Then I get home, and I play games on my PC (when I'm not with girlfriend) and do other PC stuff. Like buy new hardware when I can afford it lol. But yeah, both systems rock, and I wouldn't trrade em for anything. Plus that free iPod Touch from Apple got me $200!

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avatarTry Linix, you might like

Try Linix, you might like it. I think it is alot better for school work.

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avatarWish there's an edit

Wish there's an edit button.
http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Macs_Suck_Just_Like_Aol.htm

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avatarApple has success in

Apple has success in creating a brand name for mass public.
So when average people look at an Apple product, they will think it's awesome.

Just like Paris Hilton....

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avatar8. Secure in our insecurity

8. Secure in our insecurity - You love to tout the
lack of viruses targeted towards Macs as an indication that Macs are
more secure, but could it be that even hackers don't give a f*** about
Mac users? In a way, it'd be like invading Iceland. It's not that it
can't be done, but what's the point?

 

Give this one a rest already. Microsoft is not taking the blame for being secure and reliable by design - end of discussion. 

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avatarEveryone needs to give it a rest already....

Apple freaks! If you think Macs are the greatest thing since sliced bread, then knock yourself out! Why do you insist on trying to convince everyone else how great Macs are? Yourselves maybe? If I wanted a Mac, thought a Mac was great, then guess what folks? You got it....I've have a freakin' Mac. Leave us PC users alone. If a want to buy an easily upgradable computer with limitless options, then that's my choice. Mac users remind me of the kid in school who bragged about his new toy only to the only kid interested in it...while the rest of us played in the field.

 

One last thought...Macs are so great, they still have crap market share...swallow them apple seeds.

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avatarCan we all just get along?

I have a pc, pc, pc, Mac, and a pc.

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avatarThanks

Thanks guys for doing this. That other review sounded like it was written by a bunch of 12 year old girls at a slumber party. To show my appreciation, the picture of the loser - Mac User at the top will be my new TF2 spray.

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avatarApple is crap just like any other computer

Apple is crap just like any other computer. 

Im a technician that works on IBM, DELL, HP, and APPLE computers.  I get just as many apple jobs as I do any for any of the other companies.  All the components are made by the same people and its all junk.

But i have to say that most of the Apple owners are zealots.  Its like they are brainwashed or something.  One job really sticks in my mind.  I replace a motherboard in this ladies MAC, and the moment I stepped into the house she was going on about how Apples are made in the USA for the USA and are compatable with EVERYTHING made in the USA.  I had to listen to this crap for an hour and a half (MACs are harder to work on then PCs).  The first thing I noticed when I got the case cracked open were the words "MADE IN MALAYSIA" stamped on the MB in big white leters.

After showing that to the customer, she insisted that the MAC must be a conterfit knockoff...go figure

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avatarhmm..

let me start off by saying i love os x. it is the best, most enjoyable OS to use. i have a mac mini from when they first came out. i bought it with my tax return. i still use it to this day. i also have 2 pc's and a laptop. soon i will be buying another laptop.. and for my uses, a macbook pro is what i want. but i will get the gateway 7811 fx. why? because i don't want to pay double the price for a laptop that isn't quite as good.

if apple were to pull their heads out of each others asses and make prices competitive, i think apple would sell a lot more macs.. thus, more viruses for the mac.. as there will be a larger user base. i am not one to really worry about viruses anyway, i don't run anti-virus either. if something goes wrong, i format and start over again. it may seem tedious to some.. but i actually enjoy doing it.

it would be nice if apple either support it's OS on any machine, be it pc or mac, or in the next version after snow leapard (did they use "cheetah" yet?), make it able to run executables. then it will be a war. OS X is better than vista, i don't know about windows 7.. but unless microsoft learned from their mistakes, i'm sure OS X will be better than windows 7 as well.

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avatarMac Users Are Whiny Losers. Love, ME

10 Remember when Bill Gates used Apple as a no-cost R&D section.

9. I can't wait to use that Killer App for MACs Micro$oft Office......

8. 59 more payments and the MAC Book will be mine. 

7. 7 out of 10 Democrats prefer MACs, 9 out 10 Pedophiles are Democrats, lets just say numbers don't lie.

6. Unhappy MAC is much better than a BSOD 8(

5. A PC mouse is very complicated, what do you do with all the buttons.

4. "I would have gotten a PC but MACs look better with my furniture"

3. MACs are preferred by colleges because they know students can't waste time playing games on them in class.   

2. OSX is hit with many viruses but MAC users are too stupid to realize it.  How did that hacker get my identity, it must have been someones Vista computer with my information on it.  Now back to setting up this transaction with the African guy promising me $25000 dollars to transfer some money into the USA.

1. Release OSX for all and let everyone realize that Apple is passing off outdated, gimped hardware as new.

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avatarActually, Bill came up with an even better idea...

Bill Gates managed to turn his R & D division into a profit center.  It's better known as "retail sales."  That's where Windows users PAY Microsoft to beta-test Microsoft's products by buying them.

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avatarYawn.....

Exactly why I let my subscription expire... This mag has turned into a bunch of pre-pubescent dorks - the male equivalent of 'Teen' magazine writing about stupid crap. Don't you have some zits you could be popping?  Future should drop this.

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avatarCry much?

Dorks? Did you really use that term while pretending that you're more that 12 years old?

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avatarYour subscription didn't expire.

You expired.

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avatarHey man oregon trail is a

Hey man oregon trail is a classic. I remember playing oregon trail II in 4th grade. Rocks your socks man.

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avatarSorry, just have to do it...

My group of PC users beat up your Mac users... then took their women to the prom!

John

Try to be smarter than the object you're working with! It will make things easier, and might just save your life...

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avatarSteve Jobs is Control Freak A*S Hole

"One More Thing" Steve Jobs Invented the term "Planned Obsolesence"

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avatarMac's: The metrosexual beta males of the computing world

I bought my wife a Mac because she thought that it was "cute", and that is where the fascination stopped for me. As long as she's happy with it, I am happy with it; until something needs done to fix it. Then, I get to talk to the mentally challenged trogs at Apple support. "Support" is a word used loosely mind you... I've never seen a machine that is in need of such constant care and feeding. I thought that my mod'd pc's needed love and guidance, but they're low maintenance compared to our Mac. Gotta love the Mac sheep, they are the cute metrosexual beta's of the computing world.

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avatarHuh?

Have to disagree with you there... I've rarely had an issue with my Mac.  Most of the ones that I've had, were much like the PCs... just kill the task and move on.... on rare occassions, I had to reboot.  I've definitely had more issues with my PCs over the years (and yes, they've all been upgraded, modded, you name it).  Then again, why would I have many issues, when the hardware is locked in... and the upgrades where relegated to memory and HDD expansion.  Still, I very much enjoy using my Mac... and use my PCs for gaming. 

 

I like my Mac, I like my PC (not as much as my Mac)... and, I don't care what you like!

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avatarMacs are great if your not a

Macs are great if your not a gamer, don't ever want to upgrade, like spending lots of money on lower spec'ed hardware than what's available for the PC, your a long haired weed smoking vw beatle driving hippie, your a homosexual, you enjoy sexual relations with farm animals, you look to Steve Jobs as the messiah, you think aliens are real, and you believe Gordon Mah Ung is a liar.

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avatarand you forgot

11. Mock turtlenecks are pretentious.

12. Steve Jobs is the devil.

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avatarLinux? LINUX??? Are you flipping kidding me??

Linux is going on near 20 years and STILL(!!) hasn't gotten its act together!  Linus Torvalds has been threatening to take over the OS world since 1992(!) and STILL(!) cannot get it up!

A couple of things disqualify me from Linux:

a) I don't live in a cellar, I don't have a beard, and I practice personal hygiene.

b) Not into writing my own drivers.  Sorry!

c) Want to install software?  Sure!  Which VERSION of Linux are you running?  Which kernel?  Which desktop?  My God this is like a freaking survey and all I wanted to do was install an application!

 

Hating on LINUX!!  NOW WE'RE TALKING!!!

 

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avatarLinux isn't that bad!

1. So do I - I still use linux.

2. Nobody writes their own drivers..... well.. since like 1990!

3. Ubuntu has the app manager, which is even easier than xp. You browse around, check a few apps and bam, their installed! I agree a couple applications you have to compile, but usually you don't need those anyway.

 And so what if we don't have the $$ to have great mac vs pc -like advertisments?? I bet more people would use linux if they knew what it was.

 And also, we're free and open source, hard to argue with that. And if you STILL are not opening up to the idea of it, great! We don't care, we don't stand to gain if you don't like our shit. So go around bashing it all you want for no stupid reason.

Thank you and have a nice day :) .

Budgetperson

 www.upbeatpc.com

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avatarCompiling applications? What non-IT computer user does that?

Linux continues to dig in its heels while being dragged into 21st century computing.  Hello!  It's not 1992 anymore!  Most computer users don't want to have to have a programming degree to use their computers, and they don't want to have to learn how to "compile an application."

New terms for your Linux vocabulary.  "click and install."  "unified driver model (no more 20 different flavors of the same driver for different kernels, desktops, and distros)."  "common standards."

 One more thing.

Welcome to the 21st century.

 

 

 

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avatarIf you are actually

If you are actually impressed by Ubuntu's "app manager" you'll love PC-BSD's PBI management system. Not to mention the lack of - which version of kernel? which library? What toolkits? Silly Linux.

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avatarYeah!

Viva Linux!

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avataranyone heard of Blu-ray

congrats to all the retards who bought a iMac pedestal with the supadrive with the 20" screen that displays Millions of colors.....oops I mean 252,144 colors

you gotta love truth in advertising or class action lawsuits.

meanwhile any PC can upgrade their optical drive like to say a blu-ray drive and hey imagine that ...watch blu-ray movies and have a PC on a 42" LCD.

wow what will they think of next!

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming

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