Engelsstaub

May 28, 2011 at 5:46pm

This is just capitalism and marketing in general. There are certain things that bug me about Apple as well. I think if Microsoft was in some unique position/business model where they make the computer hardware they'd be mounting some sort of challenge to Apple's "premium-branding."

I would never even really consider a Mac Pro as a desktop if I needed one. I'd be building a PC too. I do like Apple's OS but Win7 is pretty decent. I've had no real problems with it. If I wanted to watch a Blu Ray on my MBP, I'd have to decrypt it first. Blu Ray is a PITA on computers whichever way you roll, but even more so on Linux and OSX.

Caboose

June 02, 2011 at 6:49am

@oldobamaliar - I used to work for Staples. About 8 years ago when I was in college. I'm now a PC Systems Admin for a pretty large national company. And NTLDR put it perfectly in describing how AV software works.

If you did ANY research you would realize that there are apps that run happily in the background keeping things safe and under control while not using much system resources and staying out of the way unless something bad happens.

When I worked for Staples, I'd try and convince people to go with the free apps like Avast! or AVG (before it got all bloated) and keep away from Norton, McAfee and the like. But if they wanted to use one of those apps, then that was their choice.

In all the years that I've been using and working on or with computers I've received only a few bits of malware. Sure a couple were my fault in my younger years, but not any more.

My wife's cousin thinks like you do regarding AV software, the one day that I worked with him, he had 3 people coming in with the same or new malware that had been removed. My wife's cousin HAPPILY took their money and cleaned the systems. When they asked "What antivirus should I be running?" He told them pretty much the same thing that you've said "Its a waste, resource hog and crap! Just be careful.". It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were back a few weeks later.

And it really shows your incredible maturety with how you've handled responding to me. Its amazing really. I'm quite stunned.

@luke904 - If you don't care if you get any sort of malware on your PC, I'm sure we could find some lovely spyware and tracking software to load up on your machine and maybe get a botnet going as well. Seeing as how you don't care and all.

Ntldr

May 31, 2011 at 9:36am

Response to Oldobamaliar

You have never had a virus that you have known about is what you should say.  Because with no AV software on your computer you wouldn't know if there was a trojan or a stealthed virus on your computer sending out information.  If you can follow me on this I think you will understand.  AV software is like the lock on your house doors you have them there and you use them to prevent the option of someone just walking in your house.  Saying you don't need an AV is like saying you don't need a lock on your door because nobody has ever tried to walk in your house and take things and they never will.

Next you should probably think about calming down and not name calling as it makes you look like the dunce in the perverbial classroom.  I am a Computer Tech/Network Administrator and I am for AV software for the simple fact that in a Business environment you can't trust that everyone else knows that a pop up saying you have viruses is going to tank a computer.  And if you have customers for a PC repair shop and they constantly have to bring their computers in for repeted infections because they have no AV one of two things will happen.  You will lose the customer because they will not trust you anymore or you will get screwed in costs because they can't pay it everytime. 

Just because someone recommends something does not make them an "Amateur" it makes them cautious.  If you knew anything about the internet or who was out there you would know that you can get infected from simply visiting a site or opening an email.  If you take the time to look around and see how many hacking attacks there are and malicious software that is out there on sites that you probably go to everyday and look at.  If somebody wanted to they could attach a virus to the MSN homepage or even Google and anybody that hit that site would be infected. 

Next time before you post and think about ripping on someone that you think has less knowledge than yourself do your research, refrain from name calling, and for the love of everything that is Holy if you post on the MaximumPC site please read what they put because by proxy you are calling them idiots and amateurs as well because they believe in using AV software. 

Joji

May 27, 2011 at 6:50pm

As long as you know what you download and know how to search the web without going into any suspicious site, you're good to go. I only use Malwarebytes and no, it's not an AV. Though, I dislike how Malwarebytes bashed Iobit A LOT a few years back because of some conflict. Malwarebytes were really mean back then. :/ Felt sorry for Iobit.