LulzSec Hacker Receives One-Year Sentence for Sony Shenanigans

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davelray

Ahhh you are one of those "The Truth is Out There" nutters. Yeah, that so makes you more believable. You know what's really sad? The thought that if you actually had credible evidence, you are here trolling a board instead of trying to get that "evidence" you claim you had to the guy's defense team. So what's the truth here? You are either a board trolling scum bag, or your a complete asshole that could keep someone out of jail but won't because you want to make a name for yourself on an internet board. Which is it? Occam's Razor tells me your nothing more than a troll.

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armyof1ne

... unless the truth is literally out there... rofl... then im not so crazy.. lol. Well, there is that way to look at it, but the evidence i speak of really wouldnt do much now would it? i think you should start looking the internets yourself before you write a response, please hold off on joining the bandwagon until engel is dealt with

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davelray

Consider this, you have been called into question by not only myself, but others here as well, on the facts of the case. You haven't bothered to actually do any reading yourself. You've confused the facts of two seperate cases. One in which the person in the article has everything to do with, and one case which involves another arm of Sony and to which he has nothing to do with at all. Get your own facts straight first. Then write your comments with proper grammar and correct spelling. Then you MIGHT have a chance to seem plausible. But since you continue to fail in all these areas, you cease to be a person with a valid opinion and instead become nothing more than a thread scamming troll. Time for you to put up or shut up.

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armyof1ne

like i said before, if i was here for you, trust me i might care to write and spend time either spell checking or proofreading, being that these are 90% of the time directed to an inbred piece of trash that didnt pass the 7th grade, i really dont think i should waste my time on that.

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Carlidan

The problem of your argument is that "the info is out there, just need to find it", but yet you don't show any links so we can verify your argument makes you look like you don't know what you are saying. If you have said evidence and you "want" to shut him up. Why not show us? Then we'll back you up. Instead, you keep saying crap, like Silencer, which still think you are him, just insults and name calling.

And again, all the prosecution needs to prove is intent. And even reading a tidbit about the case. You can clearly see there was intent.

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armyof1ne

well, maybe you weren't here from the beginning, me and engel have been name calling for some time, i dont need or want your approval, you are of little consequence(sorry). My problem is engel thread crapping and thinking he is some form of god that knows everything... i will break him, he will see, and hopefully be a better person from it. He will either leave or learn. he wanted to be dick, well there are bigger dicks out there, obviously physically, and mentally.
im not here to sway anyone, people will choose what they want and seek the truth if they want it, i find it funny that he keeps blasting the, "show us the evidence you claim" knowing i will not until he submits, publicly apologizes for being a superdouche godcomplex fucktard. So in essence, he is really just wasting his time, and he knows it. Now that he is latched onto the evidence, the ball is in his court, when he grows a set of balls since he obviously has none,

who would date a fucktard like that let alone want to live with him... i would feel so sorry for them
plz respond

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armyof1ne

Like i said, until engel grows a pair, guess you will have to put on your big girl panties and look around... according to engel im just a complete liar, so if you dont go look for it, you are really just wasting your time here huh?
i mean since engel refuses to tell the truth himself

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Engelsstaub

Nobody here, Mr. Delusion.

IF THEY SUPPOSEDLY CAN'T CATCH THEM THEN THEY HAVEN'T JUST UNFAIRLY QUIT INVESTIGATING THEM AS YOU STATED, CAN THEY?! I don't think I'm smarter than everyone. You're just dumb as fuck. Every time you put your foot in your mouth the voices in your head imagine some victory and you start spouting off the same things I said to you.

Keep playing that call yourself names crap. Keep regurgitating everything I've said to you. You've been told by almost every last commenter here that you're loathed and a thread-crapping antagonist...but hey: just pretend that's me and the voices in your head are your true audience.

This isn't a discussion about what you perceive as my psychological problems. Give me your credentials as a qualified professional if you think to assist me.

This is about your perpetual argument. You can't answer any of it because you were lying and full of shit. End of story. If you weren't lying and full of shit you'd have coughed it up gladly instead of coming back here day-in day-out sputtering and regurgitating.

Everyone here can see you're a liar and you're full of shit. Everyone but the voices in your head.

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armyof1ne

continue ignoring and think yourself god, its cool. This was a discussion about how some noob idiot that went public about an open door network, that got screwed over paying 600k unjustly for something he did not do, but simply by proxy of calling wolf he has to pay it because you know, if he didnt say anything, sony would never have been attacked... dumbass, i still cant believe you guys even think that.

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armyof1ne

continue ignoring and think yourself god, its cool. This was a discussion about how some noob idiot that went public about an open door network, that got screwed over paying 600k unjustly for something he did not do, but simply by proxy of calling wolf he has to pay it because you know, if he didnt say anything, sony would never have been attacked... dumbass, i still cant believe you guys even think that.

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Engelsstaub

This is where we've been stuck at for the past few days, you and I (...and yes you are alone here. "Im just glad im not alone here, that alot of people hate you for being a single minded yap yap yap..." Voices in your head. You are VERY alone here and you keep telling yourself you are not.)

1. Your assertions that the defendant was coerced into a not guilty plea.

2. You assertion that the prosecution ceased investigations in spite of the fact that they have convicted Lulzsec dorks ratting each other out. For what then?)

Either you're a liar and you were full of crap or give us your 100% proof of either that you repeatedly claimed to have.

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armyof1ne

Submit, come to a realization that you are not god, that you are infact fallible, and that you are a complete fucking douche and should probably learn to tone it down. Then you can see the truth of the matter, i could show you 1000 things and you would just wall up like you have. Once you are ready the information will be there, hence why you havent looked for it, probably spent... 10 seconds in a search on google and called it good huh? or did you not even waste that amount of time, because you are god and you are all knowing?

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Engelsstaub

This isn't about me knowing everything. Nobody in their right mind thinks they know everything. It's about you being a liar and coming back day after day and telling me to call myself names for you to provide any shred of evidence for your lies. You talk about what a noob the defendant was and about the skillz you supposedly possess. You've nothing but a will to troll, harass this community, and thread-crap. Nice skillz, Lulzsec-wannabe.

1. You repeatedly asserted that the defendant was coerced into a not guilty plea.

2. You more than once asserted that the prosecution ceased investigations in spite of the fact that they have convicted Lulzsec dorks ratting each other out. For what then?) You're a liar and you were full of crap. Or give us your 100% proof of either that you repeatedly claimed to have.

A liar.

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armyof1ne

Actually, this started with a flame fest, this is actually about you arguing the fact that someone is guilty of something he didnt commit that even paul said he didn't commit(opinion of course) yet he is still stuck with the bill, that and how people just link him to the crime because he made it public, at any time in the months leading up to the attack, not one of the few thousand people contacted sony to show them the flaw, because it was not their responsibility, im sorry that you feel an open door network is considered secure and that he "kicked in the door" but like i said, the door was open, wide open.
1. if you arent stupid you could see that without any evidence, but since you are stupid, just tell the truth*wink*
2.Some of the more prominent members ratted people out, this guy was not a part of lulzsec, nor did he do anything but found an open door and explored, if you havent done that before, i suggest doing it, its fun. If they never caught him or detected him, thats really on them. they only caught him because of his public tweets and whatnot, then basically blamed him for the hack, nothing changed, it was still a shitty network, and its pretty stupid to blame someone that called them out on their network.

PS... this is about you *thinking* you know everything. like i said i have evidence, you say i dont. prove me wrong, grow a pair

And since you were too stupid to understand, i want lulzsec brought in, unlike you who by your own words "could give a damn" and you "don't care" that someone that was no part in it got fitted with the bill.
If i wanted to be a "lulzsec wannabe" you think i would want my own people put in prison? See thats the depths of your own stupidity, you think thats normal in your own mind. betrayal normally isnt a good sign of a good person... thanks for the tidbit of your personality.

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davelray

Now you are busted. First of all, Paul interjected no opinion at all into the article. He merely reported the news. So to somehow draw the conclusion of Paul's opinion from whence there is no information to draw from shows you lied. Second, the hacker in question was not caught via public twitter tweets. He was traced through IRC chat sessions with others affiliated with Lulzsec. And it was by no means "public." He had tried to cover himself by going through a private VPN company in the UK. So they had to get the UK court to order a release of the records to trace him back from there and locate him in Phoenix. So you are now a proven liar. And your lack of knowledge of the case details shows you cannot possibly have any evidence to the contrary. Have a nice day troll scumbag.

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armyof1ne

"The breach Kretsinger participated in is separate from the one that caused Sony to take its PlayStation network offline for 40 days in 2011." Thats the news! however the justice system sees it differently. by proxy of submitting data to the public he was involved in the network being taken down, hence why he was charged 600k, because while he was in having fun, he did no damage whatsoever... the charge of conspiracy is directly related to the breach. i mean this was the sony pictures website, this had nothing to do with PSN, yet he gets blamed for it. you guys are nuts

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Neufeldt2002

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Carlidan

Swear armyof1ne is what's his name..... nimrod or the other guy. But the other guy was way way worst than armyof1ne and his orginal account was deleted if I remember correctly.

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The Mac

i dunno, nimrod was an angry little fucker, and Wintel was just a jerk, but at least they didnt thread crap contradictory nonsense like this bozo...

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limitbreaker

I don't know who nimrod is but wintel was just a troll. Armyof1ne isn't a troll, he's genuine in the sense that he believes his own delusions, It's an Apple to oranges comparison.

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The Mac

Belief usually requires a steadfast adherence to a particular idea.

If he believes his own delusions, why does he keep contradicting himself?

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limitbreaker

I don't know, he needs a psychologist.

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The Mac

clearly...

lol

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armyof1ne

rofl... i dont contradict myself, i do argue alot trying to argue logic with different analogies which does make it seem conflicting... i wrote this in response to something along those lines, this cuts the crap.
"actually i have been an mpc member for a long time. helped in forums until some people got it in their heads that i was just trying to break peoples machines(until they did what i told them and it was magically fixed) I just have a more open understanding about whats happening, and read the fine print, unlike alot of the people here apparently.

since im sure you havent read all the crap back and forth, this is why i think this is wrong.
the initial "hack" by this guy basically showed a huge open door network that was not secure in the slightest.
he grabbed some usernames and passwords and a little bit of information, he openly put it out there for anyone.
he was in there for about 1-2 months without being caught or even detected(seriously, thats how bad it was)
He did not do damage or anything, and even paul lilly said this was not part of the network outage hack that compromised thousands of accounts and did millions in damage.
but because he made it known that it was an open system, he is getting charged with part of the damages, "conspiracy and unauthorized impairment of a protected computer" which i feel is wrong. Publically(if sony was paying attention) he showed their network flawed, did he send an email to sony about it... i dont know that. but if sony was paying attention at all, they could have preventing this issue by taking action, should he pay damages he did not do? i would hope most people would say no, but i guess there are people on here that feel he got off easy for literally doing nothing but showing how broken their system was
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armyof1ne

at least trolololol douche engel stopped... guess he failed at being the protector of the maximumpc comment box, calling people ignorant or morons for having a different view on the situation or more information and understanding in this case... some people cannot think outside the box... no wonder they stay in dead end jobs

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The Mac

I have read every one of of your idiotic and contradictory posts.

I am also extremely familiar with the legal case. Both the logistics of the accusations, and the final results.

Your summary above is inaccurate, pedantic, and full of personal opinion.

The exact opposite of what the legal system is all about.

I will say it again: You sir, are a raving lunatic.

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Engelsstaub

You will have my attention for as long as you think you need it. You don't have to keep crying to others about me when you know they don't care about your psychoses.

You've been crying your ass off here for four days now. Not one single person isn't mocking you now and your lunacy. Nobody is with you. But I got you so buttmad that you have to keep dropping my name to everyone who despises you and your trolling and rhetoric thinking they'll magically see this your way. Even if I insulted you first (which I didn't...you got all indignant because I made a general statement about Lulzsec members being cowards. That inflamed your butt for obvious reasons) you did this to yourself by calling others fucktards and dumbasses when they were having a civil discussion with you.

Whatever la-la land you choose to live in is fine. The rest of us see all of this entirely differently from you. It's all a big conspiracy. We're all wrong and somehow you didn't call people like Gezzer and jgottberg fucktards and dumbasses for not going "oh my god dude you're so right why didn't I see this before in your last fifty comments?!" ...that was ME. I didn't "call people ignorant or morons..." as you keep bawling about; I called YOU a moron. You're far more than that.

So in conclusion and once again, moron: you made statements about the investigation and prosecution that you can't back up. You've got nothing. Plain and simple. If you had such evidence to support your ridiculous claims that the rest aren't being investigated and that the defendant was "coerced" you'd have given it. QED

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The Mac

im starting to wonder if this joker is related to Holly Golightly.

Didnt she used to call you engeldouche as well?

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KenLV

Ah yes, Holly. Our resident anti-capitalist pro-communist who, while completely ignorant of the reality there, loves China AND North Korea but won't move there.

It was AMAZING how she would turn ANYTHING and everything into a "...this is why China is great...US sucks..." type argument.

Best Buy sucks = China is great
Sony gets hacked = China is great
MS sold out of Surface = North Korea starvation is a lie
HHD prices rise = Russia won the cold war
etc...

It was truly amazing to behold.

In the end, her MySpace and Linkedin pages revealed her as the spoiled little Bloomingdale's shopper and fraud she was. Classic.

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Engelsstaub

She hasn't commented here in a really long time. I hope that weirdo is ok :)

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The Mac

She probably finaly graduated from SUNY and was forced to get a real life outside her beloved xbox...

lol

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Engelsstaub

I kind of miss her. She used to poop on me because I use a Mac, but also build PCs (I've only owned two factory PCs in my life and they were both laptops.) Meanwhile she always talked about her off-the-shelf Dell as though most people here wouldn't just build a desktop.

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The Mac

I have to admit, she was amusing...

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armyof1ne

i wonder how someone could ever think that engel is a douchebag.... *rolls eyes*

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Engelsstaub

That's it, sweety. Somebody else insulted you...like everyone else. Channel all that butt rage on me. I'm here for you.

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armyof1ne

Aww thanks man. Thats awefully nice of you to be my bitch, come at my beck and call.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAy4zULKFDU

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Engelsstaub

No, I don't think that was Holly. I was MacBoy to her. engeldouche was acidic and "some account" that got created for the sole purpose of trolling me.

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The Mac

Thats right...

i think i was baldy or something...

all my comments were delelted under my Blkpanthr account, so i cant really find it anymore...

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Engelsstaub

Oh, shit! You're Blkpanthr? I was wondering what happened to you.

Well, I'm glad you're still here.

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The Mac

Yeah, i commented on some spam about getting rid of the joker, and they wiped my account by accident when they were deleteing him.

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Engelsstaub

Oh, yeah. That I remember reading that now. That sounded legit. They wouldn't have deleted you on purpose. They would have zapped me before they got you haha.

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armyof1ne

awwwwww... maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and you would find that you really are a worthless retarded tool that is no help to anyone, only imagined since you have that god complex

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Engelsstaub

Loses argument. Everybody despises you. Still crying.

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armyof1ne

I thought everyone liked you... oh wait, thats right, you have the name of engeldouche from multiple people... they cant all be wrong! rofl. still sitting around here trolling.
oh... btw, its obvious since you wont take action, you are losing quite badly.

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Engelsstaub

I don't believe for a second that everyone likes me. Everyone here doesn't LOATHE me as they do you.

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armyof1ne

i dont care if they loathe me... at least im doing something right? *wink* its ok, people that are blind and choose to be blind are no friend of mine, makes it even, i loathe stupidity

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Engelsstaub

If we're all stupid then you're keeping company with fools. And you know we loathe you and are no friend of yours. So you're being antagonistic and trolling.

If you don't think you're crazy now then now's the time to think about that. Maybe you aren't if it's beginning to make sense?

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limitbreaker

We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine

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Engelsstaub

♩♪♫♬

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armyof1ne

taking what you just said, you also view this as some form of club where as "if we dont agree, you cant be here" this is the internet... prepare for disagreements.

no, im doing something thats good for you, letting you learn, you will look back on this in about 3 years and be like.. fuck, he was right, especially when the statute of limitations hit. you will also find that when looking back at the shit you said, that you were the insane dumbass. I would bet you 600k on that, but you just dont have that.

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