LulzSec Hacker Receives One-Year Sentence for Sony Shenanigans

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xRadeon

I don't get why people that have these skills don't go and get hired by big companies like Sony. They'd make 100,000+ to start being a Security Analyst. And if they know what they're doing, like this guy, he can go: Oh look see how I hacked this? We could make these changes and be more secure.
It's a triple win situation. Sony doesn't get hacked, peoples privacy is intact, and the guy makes legitimate money.

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PCWolf

Great Idea! problem is, most 25 yr old hackers who are smart, lack common sense. Add that to the Stupidity of Corporations, & you get a Lose-Lose situation for consumers.

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limitbreaker

Oh noes! Thread is dying!

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The Mac

yeah been a while since someone posted.

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jgottberg

So uh... hey guys, how's it goin? lol!

This really has turned epic... I've been checking this thread here and there out of morbid curiosity.

312 posts and Army still has yet to make the case that his bedfellow has been wronged by the mighty gavel of justice.

@Engelsstaub - Ever see the movie, Smokie and the Bandit, the one with Jackie Gleason as Buford T. Justice? There is a good line from that movie - it goes something like this... "Junior... We are surrounded by a mental case..." Truer words were never spoken and so applicable to Army...

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Engelsstaub

Dude, I haven't seen that movie in a really long time :)

...but I concur.

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armyof1ne

Welcome back, how are you doing?

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jgottberg

Never better, and yourself?

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armyof1ne

apparently im doing horrible according to everyone else.. i however have a little pip in my step and having a grand day! How's there weather where you are at? Its still winter here, but then again, i love winter!

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jgottberg

YOU... Aren't doing horrible. The angle you are choosing to take with a criminal is what is cheesing people. I'm not about to argue the details. You have steadfastly defended your position multiple times in this thread and I know where you stand as you know where I stand on the issue.

Regardless of what you might think, engelsstaub is as good a community member as there is and never once I have witnessed him as holier than thou.

Take a bit of friendly advice. Be friendly. This is a good group of enthusiasts.

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armyof1ne

i would say to give that information to him just as well.. but as long as he quits, i hold nothing against him, i cant change him, only he can do that.

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jgrimoldy

Armyof1ne: Please shut the fuck up

There has been no misinterpretation of the fact that you are a fucking petulant child. Shut the fuck up, go outside, do something else.

Does your continuing tantrum on this thread somehow give your life meaning?

For the love of god, please SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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armyof1ne

Found a picture of engel in his prime...

http://www.baconwrappedmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/funny-soon-meme-bacon-wrapped-media-1.jpg

Ill post this for you!

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Engelsstaub

I doubt anyone follows your links...bet you wish this was Disqus.

I don't think it would be terribly difficult for someone as psychotically-motivated as you to ascertain who I IRL-am. I mean you said you're not a "noob" like the defendant and you have some "skillz" or whatever.

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armyof1ne

? are you so desperate for attention you want someone to stalk you?.... lol

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Carlidan

Reverse psychology?

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armyof1ne

simply by stating this, you know there is going to be a response... for the love of god SHUT THE FUCK UP

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armyof1ne

engel can you respond here so we can continue getting more comments? that would be great, thanks

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armyof1ne

Congrats guys! Highest commented on article... lets set it so high that nothing ever gets near it... Keep up the good work!

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armyof1ne

obiviously there are some misenterpretations of what has been said.
let me dumb this down as far as i can.

Guy enters wide open network(different network from PSN). plays for near 1-2 months with it, never detected. guy then gathers a little info and throws it NOT JUST to lulzsec, but publicly. Lulzsec breaches PSN network. guy gets blamed, has to pay 600k in damages for piss poor security because he was part of a "conspiracy" as legal term puts it. Im sorry, but if credentials from one network to the next are the same, sony should be sued for everything they are worth...

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KenLV

"let me dumb this down as far as i can"

As you've repeatedly shown, you can do nothing else.

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Neufeldt2002

@armyof1ne: If you actually read the story that is linked in Paul's article you would have read that this hacker caused the Sony Pictures Entertainment unit 600k in damage by hacking in and stealing information on it's users. No where does it say/mention that he is being held accountable for the PSN take down, I repeat NO WHERE. Doing a quick Google search, all articles point to Sony Pictures.

"During last year's plea hearing, Kretsinger told a federal judge that he gained access to the Sony Pictures website and gave the information he found there to other members of LulzSec, who posted it on the group's website and Twitter.

Prosecutors said Kretsinger and other LulzSec hackers ultimately caused the unit of Sony Corp more than $600,000 in damage"

The key word here is unit as in Sony Pictures, not PSN.

Others have already explained to you why he is being fined the 600k, and as others have stated if you think it is unfair you can help raise the money to pay the fine.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/18/us-usa-lulzsec-hacker-idUSBRE93H10K20130418

I suggest you read the article. If you do have proof that states the contrary please post it so that we all can see. Otherwise no one will ever believe you. If you just call me names and ramble on it just means that you have no proof. The burden is on you to prove your point, cite your sources, it's not hard, just copy and paste your links to the info into a reply.

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armyof1ne

he didnt do 600k in damages, everyone so far has semi linked him to the PSN crap, which didnt happen, I have said numerous times he should never be charged with something he didnt do. Other people did the damage, not him. Why people linked it to the PSN breach is beyond me, I trolled many people here because they were stupid and i played on their stupidity... and i was having fun with it. but when you actively start harassing people, i take it personal, hence why i have a beef with dumbfuck. Everyone else is nothing to me, i may troll them a bit but my target is engel, i sure wish he was here atm... oh right, i can summon level 20 douchebag. a wild engel appeared. (right?) lol

But seriously, if you read the comments i even go into details how he enter basically tier one of their global network, looked around and that was it, he was there for some time(1-2 months) and was never ever detected. They traced him via other ways and put a bill to him for going public with the information he found which lulzsec used to do the damage. Conspiracy to commit a crime, as far as what i have read just doesnt fit, which if a judge and jury were involved he would have gotten off, easily because there is no way they could have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he had malicious intent, maybe negligent, but thats all, fitting him with the bill would never have even been considered. And maybe your right, maybe i should start something to force an appeal. It would be a great day for the computer and internet community.

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armyof1ne

Its ok, like i said the only reason im here at this point is for engel, whether you choose to believe or choose to look for the information is not my burden, i have said i would gladly throw it out there once engel apologizes, and states the other items i asked...

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Engelsstaub

Oh, now I must apologize to you because you raged for days and called other commenters here like Gezzer a fucktard and jgottberg a dumbass for trying to have a civil debate with you? Here's the apology: Kiss. My. Ass.

You've got nothing. You're a liar.

1. You repeatedly asserted that the defendant was coerced into a not guilty plea.

2. You more than once asserted that the prosecution ceased investigations. You're a liar and you were full of crap. If you weren't you would give us your 100% proof of either that you repeatedly claimed to have.

That's not demonstrating that you're here to reason with people. It's demonstrating that you're a liar in a state of pre-adolescent arrest.

You are a thread-crapping liar who serves no use here to anyone. You are a nuisance to this community. Not one single person here wants to hear your shit. You can convince nobody here of anything. Yet here you remain...still screwing with everyone. Any sane person in your position would just declare some personal victory and/or play the martyr and move on to friendlier ground.

You won't get an apology as I've nothing to apologize to you for. You won't get me to call myself a wying poopy-head wif a god-compwex. You remain to be an antagonistic punk and your snot-bubble just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

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armyof1ne

rofl... this is getting funnier, tell me again how you have done nothing, you have to be the most worthless piece of shit on the planet, and it would do everyone a favor if you literally just killed yourself.
If you could do that, that would be great.

But seriously, tell me again just how big my snotbubble is again almighty god?
you are the one saying i have nothing with only faith to back you up... rofl... and im the one that's crazy? ahahaha,
1. into a guilty plea.... hence why there wasnt much of a trial huh? look who cant write now and can't even proofread, worthless hypocrite.
2. Thats the easiest to prove, and has the most supporting evidence.

I never said i was here to reason with people... maybe in the beginning but until you went pyscho crybaby i was about done here, lol. The fact of the matter is, you are lying without any proof to support your statement that i am, its basically like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWbLk7BVsDg at around 50 seconds.
2 retarded people trying to fuck... it doesnt happen.

You are the one that started this shit, you are proven by your own words to be a nuisance to this community. making a statement like "not a single person wants to hear your shit" makes you even more of an intolerant pile of shit. I remain because you are still here, alive, and unable to cope with your own problems so you lash out at others. Any sane person that has an objective would stay to said objective until the job is done, unlike you that probably throw there hands up at the first sign of trouble, hence why you are a nobody IRL, but here on the internet, you call yourself god and proclaim yourself the protector of the maximum pc comment box like you are worth something.
Conflict breeds a better stronger person, i look at it as you are my training bitch.
As far as an apology, you know what you did, you know what you started, but you are unapologetic because as you stated, you dont care. you are a worthless human being and your mother should be ashamed to have birthed such a leech. Unlike you, i know how to blow my nose, maybe you are so stupid/retarded that you are just used to bubbles getting bigger, unlike you i know how to deal with them.

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Engelsstaub

...a liar with nothing.

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armyof1ne

A liar with nothing...

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The Mac

soooo.....

full of shit then....

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Carlidan

Think I figured out who armyof1ne is. Does any one remember Silencer. Pretty sure it's him. Just by reading the comments he's been posting.

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The Mac

i remeber him...could be.

I dont remember silencer being that incoherent however...i mean 90% of what this clown says is nonsense...

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Carlidan

"I dont remember silencer being that incoherent however...i mean 90% of what this clown says is nonsense..."

Oh yes he was!!!!

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Engelsstaub

I don't believe it's Silencer. This guy has had an account here for two years but has only commented on this story and another one a week or so ago regarding the same case.

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armyof1ne

dont know this guy... but if you guys say he is nonsense, then he probably wasnt that bad.. how horribly you guys judge and all

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Engelsstaub

How big is that snot-bubble getting?

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armyof1ne

you tell me almighty god? arent you supposed to know? rofl... its funny how stupid bigots like yourself have to feel that they are superior, when in reality, they are normally the lowest scum of the earth. They don't listen to anything but their own opinion and base everything on faith normally. Something that isnt tangible.
If you need a lesson in the word bigot again, please ask, since you obviously never knew what it meant in the beginning, see... you are learning from me!

As far as your childish bs, grow up, nut up, or shut up. Make it public for everyone to see or quit wasting your time, turn that around if you will, like everything...

This is still hilariously fun for me, its fun to shut you down, take the 15 different offshoots that seem eerily quiet now... *wink* you have some 'splainin to do. pick up the pace noob

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limitbreaker

You're crazy, I haven't seen even a single comment you've made that "shut him down". Why are you so obsessed with him anyways? Are you trying to convince him to change his mind? Do you really believe that it's going to happen? I don't think you do. You mention Engel in most of your post wether you're replying to him or not.

What I think is that you're suffering from an inferiority complex and that you can't stand the idea of leaving this thread without the dignity that you've already lost.

Sometimes people like your self who have low self esteem delude them selves and feed their mind with warped factless ideas. Engel is pushing you to reexamine things and it seems to be pushing you to a mental breakdown.

Amryof1ne, I recommend that you cease commenting on this thread and seek professional help as soon as possible. I don't want to hear on the news tomorrow that a man hung him self after a long discussion on maximumpc.

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The Mac

He dosnt have anything not in the news already.

Hes just using this supposed disagreement bs as an excuse to not have to prove anything.

Engle will never do as he asks, therefore he never has to prove anything.

its pointless trying to argue.

The 4th grade "i know someting you dont" is in play here...

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armyof1ne

I havent lost anything yet, im just waiting on an apology first off, and him admitting to his flaws, once thats done, i want to go further and utterly crush him, thats the only reason he hasnt done anything so far is because i may be right, even though he is spewing im nothing but a liar.

You really need help yourself dude, im sitting here writing and laughing at how stupid this "community is" more like group of idiots blind and unyielding, Its a shame when you find someone just as unyielding and instantly they are "instane" or just trolling. lol

i would suggest giving up or asking toolbag mcgee to go public.

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The Mac

perhaps in your own mind.

The rest of the world however is just rolling their eyes at you.

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armyof1ne

thats also an extremely stupid statement... man, maybe you arent great as i thought, lol... since you speak for the world and know what they are doing, you are starting to sound like psychocrybaby.

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The Mac

wut...

i dont even....

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armyof1ne

thats also an extremely stupid statement... man, maybe you arent great as i thought, lol... since you speak for the world and know what they are doing, you are starting to sound like psychocrybaby.

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The Mac

More incoherent ramblings.

And again, incorrect contextual use of the word bigot.

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limitbreaker

I wonder if some of the MPC journalist are reading these comments and laughing, some of the things said here is hilarious.

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armyof1ne

i can tell you there are plenty of people laughing

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Engelsstaub

Yeah, all the voices in your head Fruit Loops.

What you can't tell us is how (as you've repeatedly claimed) the prosecution coerced the defendant into pleading guilty (rather than no contest or not guilty) -or- how you know law enforcement and the prosecution would just give up investigating others or give them immunity. Especially since some of the rats they already got are singing like canaries.

According to you you have 100% proof of at least one of those. But you're not going to tell us unwess I call myself a wying poopy-head and admit I have a god compwecks.

Let's hear it you thread-crapping dolt: you say you're not here to troll and antagonize...you want to change somebody's mind. Go...

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armyof1ne

Acknowledgement of a problem is the first step to recovery, I want something good out of all this crap, this was a wasted thread that you took upon yourself to crap on because no one can be smarter than you and no one can have differing opinions. once that happens, we can continue to move forward, you are too afraid to because i may just be right,which would prove you a worthless fucking asshole. you just can't have that happen rofl.
I'll give you a hint, they cannot prosecute what they cannot catch. Thats all you will get from me until we start fixing those issues of yours douchebag.

Im just glad im not alone here, that alot of people hate you for being a single minded fucktard with no meaning in life but to troll everyone that disagrees with the status quo, or your definition of status quo(your own opinions)

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davelray

I'm thinking that's actually the problem. You are alone. You are depressed and you hate yourself. And this is how you cry out for attention so that you don't take that final leap into the eternal pit of oblivion.

That being said...

You are also wrong. Whether I leave the door to my house wide open or not, if you come in without my permission, you have committed a crime. Now had you kindly shut the door and left without saying anything to anyone and not got caught, it wouldn't have been as big of a problem. But noooooo you had to go brag and show all your "cool" friends how you did it. They later came in and took all my stuff. They are criminals, and so are you because you showed them how. It doesn't matter whether you "meant" for it to happen or not. You are an accomplice. There's been many a "wheel man" that has been sent to prison even though they swore up and down they didn't know the guys were robbing the bank. Face it. The guy made a mistake. He's owned up to it. He's plead guilty and will take responsibility for what he did. His sentence was reduced because he took a plea bargain. He could have been facing 15 years in prison. Frankly, he's getting off light compared to what he could have gotten.

Now while I don't like everything Engel says, he's got you dead to rights. You are either a loser troll, or you are one of those hackers that thinks it's cool to break into computer systems and don't think there should be any repercussions for your actions. Either way, you're a loser. I haven't seen one single person agree with you. And you have delivered no information that would even makes us possibly want to change our opinion. You are worse than Warrior247. At least he can use proper grammar and can spell.

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armyof1ne

I have it but engel wont do what needs to be done. shit anyone here could grab it, the smart ones actually look for the info, engel apparently isnt that smart... more like trolling, i am never alone, according to engel i have voices in my head or some such bullshit, so hey.. you can fight with engel over that one, lol since he is now god and a psychiatrist. rofl.

also if you publicly went and stated something of any other nature, lets say a banks atm system... had a port on the front of it you can hook up a pc and access it to dispense money. and someone does it, the whistleblower is held liable? in any other arguement pertaining to proxy "conspiracy" it wouldnt jive but here on the maximumpc forums, people that challenge the status quo to make things better are bad evil people. if he got enough support and brought it to public eye before any of these lulzsec douchebags got involved he would have been branded some form of hero/bug finder, but because some other group of dicks used the information for something bad, instantly he is bad.. thats about as fucking stupid as i will get out.
I dont need to change your opinion, the truth will always be the truth whether you like it or not, the truth always surfaces, always stays firm. The evidence cannot and will not disappear.
you will find the truth on your own if engel doesn't submit. you may think me a dick, but you will respect me when the time comes, because you will find i dont give into dumbasses that assume things without any form of evidence and being told they are wrong just wall up like a child and go "LALALALALALA"

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