Linux 3.4 Released With Increased Graphics Support And Big Btrfs Improvements

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mccordrm

Microsoft is going to be in a world of hurt if Gaming ever comes to Linux. Hell, just imagine if Starcraft, for example, would run natively in Linux.

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TrollBot5000

Theres quite a few games that run well in wine but I long for the day where major titles are packed in an easy .deb file.

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someuid

"do something about the terminal commands"

I hope they just hide it from general users. It is the command line that makes linux so powerful.

The ability to pull information from one program and pipe it to another for action, and to another for action, etc etc is absolutely light years ahead of Windows. When I took my first Unix class, and I saw what DOS had been trying to do with the command line, I fully understood (1) just how limited DOS was and (2) how Bill Gates was able to guy it for cheap.

Yeah, I know - PowerShell. Sorry, but the simplicity of linux's command structure and data types gives it amazing power and just plows PowerShell into the dirt.

If Valve is successful is getting video games ports over to Linux, goodbye Windows. Enjoy running on cheap systems sold at Wal-mart and battling Apple's iPad, iPod and iPhone. You'll get no help from me.

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Sty

The main point that I was getting at is: ease of use. If Linux was as easy to use as Windows, then most of the systems nowadays would have Linux installed instead of Windows. Why would a manufacturer of laptops of PCs pay for Windows when Linux would be nearly free, or perhaps even completely free (not sure how linux handles commercial distribution)? I'm sure that there are a lot of other facts involved, but I'm just naming a few.

I've had absolutely no problems with Linux with anything - besides the fact that most software companies don't really make Linux compatible programs (some of which I own) and games; I really cannot see a problem.

You mentioned Steam, but not all Steam games are going to be compatible, and not all games are on Steam. So we're going to be faced with the dual boot option again, because whilst we all would like to the games to be on Steam, chances are that they aren't going to be. Also don't forget the emerging Origin; they have no plans for Linux at all.

But look at the market, the users, the ages and maybe we'll be able to see just why Windows is favoured. And I mean really: What's the difference between Windows poweful and Linux powerful to your average user?

Many people don't see the difference or don't really want to know. So as long as Windows is able to bring out flashy new GUIs and DirectXs; Linux is going to have a hard time convincing people to use it instead of Windows.

This is purely speculative, but I have a feeling that it's one of the main problems.

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Blues22475

I agree here. Since Windows is so rooted, it's difficult for Linux to actually show how much better it is than Windows. Also, one of the other problems I see is that all software companies are going to have to make the switch to Linux based systems. As you already know, companies really do hate changing the way they do things (at least this is what I observed).

Now in the short time I used Linux I realized how much more stable it is, and how much easier it is to do certain functions and how fast to do them. Granted, I've only touched the tip of the iceburg, it didn't take me long to realize that Linux is, actually, better than Windows in alot of aspects. Problem is alot of non-techie people will just see this as "learning another operating system" (even though their interfaces are pretty close or easy to learn at any rate).

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TrollBot5000

+1 mothafuckahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Vino

power shell can pipe as well, but its implementation is still crappy.

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USraging

yes, and with the news of steam writing a client for linux i cant wait to see what is going to happen. AMD already has there foot in the door on linux lets see if nvidia can follow. if i could game with about the same graphics as on windows i would say bye bye to windows.

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TrollBot5000

had to change this comment. I read that wrong earlier. Probably had something to do with the few pints I had. I see what youre saying now man. Agreed.

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Vino

Whats the average time frame for ubuntu to release this via the update manager?

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TrollBot5000

Kernels aren't in the ubuntu repository. You have to manually upgrade the kernel. Just google it i dont feel like explaining it. :P
#Laziness

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Citizen Snips

Download from kernel.org

unzip

make menuconfig
make
make modules
make modules_install
make install

reboot

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TrollBot5000

what he said.

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TrollBot5000

Brad thanks for the Linux coverage man. What I'm hoping for is that some of the readers here that aren't familiar say "hey whats linux maybe I should check that out" Considering that M$ is determined to ride the poo choo express (yes I stole that from south park) all the way to shit town with Win8. For anyone curious about Linux I highly recommend linuxmint dot com and Jupiter Broadcasting's Linux Action Show with Bryan Lunduke and Chris Fisher for Linux news and how-to's. I try to keep an open mind when it comes to M$ and I still have some...very little but some faith that they'll come out with a new version of windows that gets it right. You could say well Win7 is good but I disagree. Yes it's the best choice right now for windows but is it really GOOD??? I don't think so. And for those that disagree probably haven't tried anything else but Windows. If you eat only McDonalds all the time then you would probably think its good since you don't have anything to compare it to. Once Linux gets full gaming support and enough professional software its over for windows. Linux has already won the server war now its just in good time that it will completely surpass windows in every way. Maybe not in a popularity contest but in quality. Justin Bieber is popular right?? Does that make him good?? Nope. Same goes for windows. Yes I just compared windows to bieber. Let the flame war begin!!

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xmichaelx

If Linux had Netflix streaming support, I'd be able to dump Windows completely. I actually LIKE Windows 7, but would happily jump ship to avoid ever "upgrading" to 8.

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Sty

I agree. If Linux just gets a bit of the gaming market, it will be quite set. But if it wants to appeal to the general market, it will have to do something about the terminal commands.

Let's face it: One of the main reasons why M$ is so popular is that it's click to install, it's click to setup, it's just click and go (usually).

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aarcane

A howto on M$ says "Click this, now click that, now click the other". a howto on Linux says "Copy pasta this into a terminal and you're good". That's the strength of a proper OS. Even the most complicated issues are reduced to a series of predictable, atomic commands.

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fry

I have to wonder when you last used Linux. The more polished distros (such as Ubuntu) are "click and go" these days. Installing the OS requires zero terminal usage. The same goes for installing most software.

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Sty

Yeah, I am quite aware. But not all of the programs are click and go. You usually have to enter the PPA, do the update and then it would transfer you to the Ubuntu software where you can install it and in some cases it wouldn't.

Microsoft: Download, double-click and installed.

Linux: Sometimes you can download and double-click, sometimes you have to enter it manually into the terminal, then apt-get update, then it is installed.

No trouble for me, but for someone else, probably.

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0ly1r3m@1ns

Linux has two ways to install software download the .deb or .rpm and double click to install (if you got a tarball then you got me there you need the terminal for that) or add the ppa which I find is easier from the terminal sudo apt-get..... or you can go to (in ubuntu) software center - software sources and add it like so. The major advantage this has over windows is it updates your software all at once every last one some thing windows can't match.

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TrollBot5000

Dude how annoying is it with windows that you have to update every program one by one....LAME!!!! Linux update beats the shit of windows slow update process that requires 50 billion restarts.

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0ly1r3m@1ns

I have all the non tech savy people I know running Linux now they have no problems except with the AMD drivers on Ubuntu since they wont stop crashing every 30 mins

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TrollBot5000

@ oly1r3m@ins Oh man don't get me started on the horror stories of trying to configure an amd driver so it won't tear. I couldn't ever get it to work. Nvidia: no problem. Intel: no worries mate. AMD: the horror!! the horror!!

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TrollBot5000

exactly. It's a learning experience. When I first started using Linux I had no idea what I was doing now I understand that for some programs you have to add the stable ppa to the software sources so it will update.

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