Linus Torvalds Tosses F-Bombs, Middle Fingers and General Disdain at Nvidia

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hermanwarren

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LatiosXT

Strange, considering those new TOP100 computers are both using Linux and are planning on using NVIDIA cards for number crunching...

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jonnyohio

Don't worry Linus, soon Steam will be available for Linux, and with it a plethora of games will begin to get ported, and nvidia will be left behind and forced to start giving Linux the love it deserves...so no need to give them fucks now, for there are plenty heading their way.

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MarioJP

Sying F U to Nvidia is one big slap in the face. Steam on Linux is just a client. Valve has always planned this some time ago but the fact remains not all gaming companies are jumping on board with this.

Valve is not alone. Origin is slowly becoming a threat to steam. I am afraid of EA. Heck we don't even get Battlefield 3 on steam on windows. Heck i am even still waiting for episode 3 for Hal-Life 2. Its a tough world out there for steam and i do hope they get one of these games out.

Until Linux comes out with their own "open source" console forget it. Xbox 360 is going to win their hearts. And because 360 is a stripped down windows on a box Directx is going to dominating.

Even if valve was to release "steambox" it might be too late. Microsoft is already talking about the next generation of their console and that is where it might be too late. I am afraid fighting for the desktop space just isn't enough anymore.

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Baer

Ahhh here we go again with Linux, the OS of the future (and always will be) Yup, in 25 years Linux will still be the OS of the future just like is was 10 years ago and still is now.

So the next X-Box, the X-Box 720, wanna bet by this time next year????

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jonnyohio

I believe they will start jumping on board if valve ports games to it as that will give the OS a much needed boost.

I disagree that origin is becoming a threat to steam at this point in time...EA will have to change its marketing strategy to be more like steam if it's going to compete with it.

I don't know if I can agree with your remark on Xbox because I own one and while the things ms is offering now on it are great, it still doesn't compare to my entertainment pc on which I do not have to pay to have access to things I already pay to have access to (Netflix,Hulu).

Perhaps your last assessment is true... I hope not because I like Linux just not enough to ditch windows 7. I guess time will tell.

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Rift2

LOL Linux this guy would fit right in at with our Truck unloading crew at Walmart.

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Nimrod

Walmart....heh heh heh lawl

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MarioJP

I honestly don't know how this guy looks like until now. I only know him by his name and yes he does looks like he fit right in for Walmart lawl

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Solarscreen

How professional.

His childish tantrum is obviously aimed at enraging the Linux / Gamer / anti-nVidia crowd and gaining him a few more last minutes in the limelight. Is he not able to write his own drivers? Are there not developer kits and source code and NDAs he can sign to get to the good stuff?

People who resort to crude, course, vulgar behavior when they are not properly worshipped... anymore.

Poor Linus.

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Nimrod

Idiots like you are why people need bad words. Because your just fucking idiots, theres no god damn reasoning with you, your just to fucking stupid.

Heres a bright idea fuck face, if its so easy why dont you just program the god damn drivers your self la dee freaken dah. The next time you have a hard drive crash, why not just make your own god damn hard drive thats immune to crashing. While your at it, why dont you go fuck your self.

In the the complete version of this video there is an EXTREMELY cute girl asking the question he was answering...OMFG i would do any thing to get in touch with her :)

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MarioJP

This is not the 1980's anymore. Drivers programs and devices is all around us. Why reinvent the wheel while we have other OS's already doing its job. Cmon man how many programmers are today in Apple HQ how about MS or Google? I run into people that are into computer science and all they want to program is apps for the ios and then you got those few in between. This is the era of programming and popularity is what it comes down to. Apple has proved that many times over. Everyone wants a Mac and bootcamp with Windows.

And the next wave to hit in the computing industry is cloud computing. Onlive have demonstrated what potential it has. Seriously what does Linux has to really offer in the desktop computing world. Many times I tried to jump on Linux but it just isn't cutting it and quite frankly i am tired of it. I would rather pay up to have a working Operating system Windows or Mac cuz at the end of a hard working day. People just want to use their computers and their mobile devices without having to fiddle too much. Plus this economy is now allowing much time to even deal with it.

With that being said. What happen to Dell System being preinstalled with Linux? or how well Chromebooks are selling compared to a mac?? Not trying to talk trash to Linux. I am just about done with it. Its tooo slow for me. Its a free OS but your time isn't free. And lastly Programmers actually want to get paid for their work. That is the main problem with Linux is true support. I mean don't you want to get paid for your hard work too??

So there you have it.

Cheers

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devin3627

I never actually did think about that... If you make a free operating system, that doesn't mean programmers are going to make the drivers for it free. It doesn't have support and without support, no one is going to protect an honest paying customer and an honest program patching security vulnerabilities as well.

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I Jedi

Woah, dude, I think that guy, like Linus, is entitled to their own opinions without some nut flying off the handle cursing every few words in most of their sentences. Relax, take a chill pill... You're not gaining yourself any points by making yourself look like a nut, or maybe that's what you want?

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szore

It's Bush's fault.

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Carlidan

Okay.... I'll bite. Yes it was!

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Wily_One

I think Nimrod (how apropos) is Linus himself.

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Nimrod

my farts are very powerful today. I only wish they could some how be harnessed to their true, full potential in order to grant me power beyond the scope and imagination of regular humans

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Neufeldt2002

Linus's F-bomb is about the Optimus chipset that nVidia released a couple of years ago. nVidia is not giving Linux much to go on for this chip, yes the graphics are a contention in the Linux world but at least they work provided that you don't mind proprietary (another sore spot). But at the end of the day nVidia is within their right to release what information they want. You don't see MS releasing the code that would allow games to run under Wine, or Cross Over, or Play On Linux.

Just for the record, I would love to see all hardware makers make all the hardware work on any platform, but if the money isn't there, or whatever reason they go with, I'll take the lump and put up with it, or find a company that will.

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Mikey109105

LOL, this article was awesome! It just points out yet another reason why I don't use nvidia. Don't get me wrong, I like nvidia enough and they do make great graphics cards and whatnot. The turn off with that, unfortunately, has always been the PRICE. If they weren't demanding 300 bucks for mid level graphics cards today, then well yeah I'd have nvidia in my system, but since they're so expensive, I switched to ATI, as on my current salary I can't afford nvidia.

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CaptainFabulous

Awww, looks like all the Nvidia fanbois are butt hurt...

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Scatter

Actually the only one acting butthurt in this story seems to be Linus

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aarcane

I use almost exclusively nvidia graphics on my systems and my portable devices are at least half tegra. The tegra devices outperform the non-tegra devices, running in Android, and the ONE system that has ATI drivers is a PAIN to get it to do ANYTHING, whereas the nvidia systems just work.

I know nvidia drivers are closed source, and in some grudging way I understand why.. But they just work. Which is more than can be said of ATI, who are supposed to be good friends with Linux.

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TrollBot5000

That's exactly what I've thought too. I've always had good luck with linux on my nvidia desktop. My laptop is ATI which is why I bitterly and begrudgingly had to switch back to windows7. I didn't want to but I had to. Its like I WANT use linux but I CANT where AMD/ATI is concerned.

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BryceBooth

Personal accomplishments aside, Mr. Torvalds manages to act as immature as some of the latest AMD/Nvidia drivers.

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Wily_One

Linux has its place and I use it daily, but Nvidia isn't missing anything. Where Linux matters is in the enterprise, where we don't care about the GUI. Server management is done by CLI, and even when a GUI is required just the basics is all that's needed. No one cares about FPS.

The only people that care about the latest drivers is on the desktop, and the Linux desktop userbase is less than 2%. If I were Nvidia I wouldn't devote many resources to that market either.

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Sty

I agree.

Though there are many Linux users, it's still a very small percentage compared to the rest of the major players. No doubt that Linux's time will come, but at the moment; people should really be happy with what nVidia has done so far.

That being said, nVidia could really shoot itself in the foot. People appreciate companies making an effort, and I think that if nVidia stepped up to the plate and offered more support for Linux, it would really be in their favour in the long run.

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bigrigross

Boo hoo if Nvidia doesn't want to make good Linux drivers for their OS. You do not game on Linux. If I want to game, I boot up Windows 7 to play my games. If I want to work, I boot up Backtrack 5.

I will probably get flamed for this but Direct X works better than Open GL does. Gaming on Linux is annoying and not worth the time.

Nvidia is a company. They want to make money. And making drivers for a mainly working OS is not a good way to use resources. And takes time away from making a better Windows driver since Windows is really the only real way to game at this point and time since most games use DX.

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aarcane

Performance wise, Linux is in fact the superior gaming architecture. However, This only fails to manifest largely in practice because too many companies only develop games for windows. Any native game for both platforms will run faster on the linux side of a dual boot. Most games in WINE even run faster in Linux (If they run at all).

I would be a dedicated linux gamer, if the software was available, and I do play in linux any game I can, because it's just plain faster and prettier.

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LatiosXT

Can you provide solid proof and explanation for this?

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D1RTYD1Z619

He flips the bird like a little girl.

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Engelsstaub

I liked Mr. Torvalds before but today he became my Hero of the Week.

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John Pombrio

Huh, my son uses Linux and NVidia graphics cards all the time. What is he complaining about, no game support? When Justin wants to play a game, he boots into Win7.
As far as laptops are concerned, NO ONE should use any other operating system on the machine than the one that came with it. The margins are so slim that the manufacturers don't bother upgrading the drivers just so you can put Linux or Win8 on it years later. I have heard way too many horror stories about trying to get an older laptop running with Win8 or Linux or whatever. Stick to what came with the machine any you won't have to worry about broken or missing drivers.
Not worth the bother to listen to a rant about NVidia, I can get all the ranting I want right here on MPC!

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sundropdrinker3

I wonder if it might be because those older laptops didn't have the hardware to support the new OS's. You know, RAM, a larger hard drive, faster CPU, etc. The idiot's were probably trying to install Windows 7 on a 10+ year old laptop.

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0ly1r3m@1ns

You seem confused, Laptops are totally fine with what ever OS as long as you have the drivers, my Zenbook is a hackintosh believe it or not (I just did it to piss off my Mac friends)I got the drivers and it worked fine, Linux works wonderfully with Nvidia chips so I dont get what Linus is all worked up about Ive had more success with Nvidia than AMD (AMD drivers suck on the windows side and only get worse on linux)

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John Pombrio

Yeah, and my son has zero problems running Linux on hos 6 year old Dell. The problems that are cropping up are folks trying to get Win8 running on a 6 year old laptop and are finding that the Win7 drivers (or worse Vista drivers) DON'T WORK causing all sorts of mayhem on running this BETA op sys. And its ALL MS's fault of course.

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Baer

I put Win 7 on an 8 year old Lenovo thinkpad that was sitting around. All I did to it was increase the memory and then reformatted and loaded Win 7. No biggie. It makes a great guest room loaner computer.

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zepontiff

I find it funny you comment about all the ranting on MPC in a ranting post. Asking whats in the video and refusing to waste your time watching it in the same breath? That also seems a little crazy to me.

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praetor_alpha

And here I was thinking that NV had rather good (if not excellent) Linux support.

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szore

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din't read the article.

have no idea who the f he is, but I LOVE IT!

Arghh!

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MdX MaxX

double...

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MdX MaxX

LOL that's awesome.

Makes me feel a little bad about using a GTX 560-Ti...

Ah well, I've got Linux Mint on my laptop so...

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Bullwinkle J Moose

Good to see he's finally coming out of his shell

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someuid

Hahaha. I wonder was would happen if we put Linus and Jen-Hsun in a cage and gave them pointy sticks.

On a side note, I do wish AMD and Nvidia would put some more effort into Linux drivers. If they'd just open source them, I bet the community would do all the heavy lifting for them out of sheer joy. Just publish some interface info.

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praetor_alpha

Intel has historically provided open source GPU drivers, or at least the hardware specs to help write them. The newer CPU GPUs are more powerful than I'll ever give them credit for, but a serious card still beats them by far.

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vrmlbasic

...because Intel has been hoping for some coding genius out there to (gratis) code improvements to the drivers for their POS graphics "solutions" which imbue those "solutions" with the power to display something more graphically intensive than Microsoft Office. ;)

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CHR15x94

I've really gotta start using Linux...

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