LG to Launch Two Google TV Sets at CES 2013

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Peanut Fox

I think things like this will eventually kill HTPCs.

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West996

Personally this is what I have been waiting for. I have been thinking of the best way to be able to do everything on my TV that I can do on my computer, so when I am streaming TV programs from the internet I can watch them on a big TV in the Rec room.

The modular media players that you can buy right not deliver a sub par experience and the cost of actually hooking up a computer dedicated for this purpose is high.

I love the PC and I want to be able to have computer functionality on all my devices. My TV should also be a computer. I'll use my main rig for PC gaming and my Google TV for sitting on my couch watching shows.

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whr4usa

don't jump into this yet!

remember all of the flops google tv has had the past couple years?

besides, have no fear my fellow pc friend as your middle paragraph is thankfully untrue these days!!

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...and they all work fine with Windows 8 Media Center too; so now insteado wasting $ on the CE device you can use the same pc (or build another!) for everything

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vrmlbasic

Google and LG are dumping serious coin on this venture and the resulting TVs are still only a mere 1920*1080 in resolution?! We're in the age of 4K blu-ray now, yet we're still stuck with 2K displays :(

Why won't companies besides Apple push forward the display resolution for consumer electronics? It's so infuriating, and it makes the product pointless IMO as it provides me with no notable new features.

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whr4usa

1080p != 2K

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sotoa

I think I prefer the litte device rather than built in solution. Look at Samsumg... they were supposed to have Amazon Video built in, but most don't or they took them out. Many are angry over this. Meanwhile a little Google device can/should be updated just like a tablet with whatever apps you want. Revo looks good and that Logitech Revue (still) looks like a great device. Unfortunately, it didn't take off.

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aarcane

Google TV will be awesome when it's just a Box sitting next to or under our televisions with a disk slot for Blu Ray and Data disks, that also happens to support all our basic Google Play Store apps and existing media.
This whole integration thing is the absolute worst course of action imaginable. One piece breaks, everything has to be replaced. We need to push manufacturers away from all-in-one devices, and back toward 19" rack-stackable discrete components.
The past, and future of consumer electronics is standardized, inexpensive, modular equipment.

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DeltaFIVEengineer

I agree and I disagree. You certainly won't get the same level of quality in an AIO device that you'd find in separate components. However, the future of consumer electronics definitely lies within AIO equipment. In any vision of the future, you certainly don't see racks of A/V equipment feeding a borderless TV, do you?

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aarcane

I'm terrified by the renditions of the future with one device doing everything. I hope against hope that there are upgrade-able internal devices that are just hidden from the viewers.

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aarcane

Oops, DP

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Hey.That_Dude

Perhaps a standardized modular all-in-one would be a better compromise? I know so may tech-unsavy people who wouldn't buy it in a 19" rack mount option (although to me that sounds wonderful!).

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aarcane

I've got nothing against disposable all-in-one boxes, so long as they're priced at the disposable all-in-one pricepoint, but I firmly believe, at least in my home, that a display should stay a display, sound should come from speakers, and each device should do one task and do it well. I wouldn't put a coffee maker in an xbox, and I won't put a content management and delivery system in a display.

You make a good point about many people unwilling to invest in modular equipment, which is why the standardization is important. Technologies like HDMI go a long way, if you can ignore nuisances such as HDCP and Legacy Equipment, but they're still far from perfect because of such nuisances :(

I do firmly believe that complexity is a necessary barrier to quality. It's part of the challenge that makes everything so much more rewarding, and it's the complexity that allows for the fine configuration that perfects the quality.

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Happy

Aarcane, are you also against the newest paradigm of putting a GPU next to the CPU in a processor on the same die as Intel is now universally doing and AMD is doing as well (though not as well).

Whether it's a good thing or not, unity is the future, not separation. Eventually nearly EVERYTHING will be done by one processor (everything will be moved on die (Intel is following this path, putting not just the GPU but the voltage regulator and other things on the same die as well)).

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aarcane

I'm certainly not against the latest trend of integrating a lowend GPU onto a CPU. It's actually lowering the cost of entry for lowend system builders. It reduces the cost of a basic productivity system or workstation.

That said, I don't USE those parts. I don't own a single desktop system without nVidia graphics.

Furthermore, I'm glad that Intel doesn't actually take pains to make the parts proper GPUs. They aren't there for high end gaming. For that we have nVidia. I am glad that they exist for the people who just need facebook and an office suite.

I still worry that in some cases the extra "bloat" on chip may result in faults that may develop later or may not be immediately obvious or other various complications. That said, insofar as I'm aware, that hasn't happened yet.

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whr4usa

I think the distinction is 'peripheral' v. 'internals'

I LIKE Intel's integration approach in your example but simultaneously expect my input devices, displays and speakers to each be their own unique modules regardless of whether they're feeding the same SoC inside or not!

GPU and CPU are both 'processing' oriented just as mouse, touch, keyboard and joystick are all input-oriented ...the difference is 'peripheral' v. 'internals' (I definitely had a better word for internal before my brain farted lol)

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aarcane

If intel can make an SOC with the CPU, GPU, and Keyboard all on one tiny chip, I'll buy it just to say I have it!

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Happy

damn double post (grrr!)

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