Left 4 Dead 2 Banned in Australia, Valve “Bummed”

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Left 4 Dead 2 developer Valve announced today that it has formally appealed the Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification's refusal to rate its zombie shooter, a decision that currently prevents Valve from releasing the game in the territory.

 

The OFLC claimed that the game was unsuitable for an MA 15+ rating due to "frequent and intense depictions of violence" and "graphic depictions of blood and gore." A higher rating than MA 15+, such as 18+, does not currently exist for video games in Australia.

The OFLC's report also noted that a minority of the board believed that the November 17-due PC and Xbox 360 game "warrants an MA 15+ classification with the customer advice of strong violence"--the classification granted to the original Left 4 Dead.

Along with word of the appeal, Valve also sent along a ratings update for the game:

COMPLETED RATINGS 
PEGI (continental Europe) - 18+ 
ESRB (North America) - M 
CERO (Japan) -Z (corresponds to Mature in US) 
IFCO (Ireland) - Approved the title for classification. 
USK (Germany) - 18+ 
Singapore - Mature 18 
FPB (South Africa) - 18+ 
KGRB (Korea) -18+

 

PENDING RATINGS 
OLFC New Zealand - In progress. 
BBFC (UK) - In progress. 
OFLC Australia - Refused to rate on September 17. Appealed September 23

 

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NeoTifa

Australia's gay.

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010000100110010...

Don't they realize the utter insanity of what they are proposing? Banning L4D2 in Australia is frankly absurd. If you label such a game as L4D2 as 'violent'then why not ban zombie killing games entirely? Or maybe even killing games at all? Most people ACTUALLY like the blood and gore thank you very much. Anyways, the utter stupidity of people never suprises me. "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."-Albert Einstein  From yours truly, -Ben 

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nekollx

 i fear for Plants vs Zombies who also deals with the living imparied's abuse.

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010000100110010...

Heh. Amusing.

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jcollins

Did I miss something in the backstory?  Or is this something new with L4D2?  I was under the impression that the zombies were infected with the virus, died, then came back.  I mean, take a look at a zombies in the game.  That ain't no living person...

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StonedMagician99

I'm tired of things being banned for (FAKE) violence, especially violence against things that are technically already dead.

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WFUJay

Left 4 Dead 2 starring:  Andy Garcia, Lil' Mama, Biz Markie, and Chris Martin.  Coming soon.

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kevjohn

"Attacks cause copious amounts of blood spray and splatter, decapitations and limb dismemberment"

Are you kidding me? This sounds like the most awesomest thing evar!! Had no interest in this game... until now. Thanks, Aussies!!

Plus, I just came up with a new business plan. I'm gonna take orders from people in other countries who can't get stuff that we can buy here, jack up the price, then ship it to them in a plain brown box. If I can avoid Customs and jail time I should make a tidy profit. Enough to buy a new set of rims for my car in 3 or 4 years.

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Sina

as far as i know, you can buy any game that you like in iran, there's no copyright law & rating system in iran.

any game/movie for less than $5.

underground rules...

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joewood77

When will governments learn you simply cannot pass edicts that ban certain actions and be able to enforce them?  Anyone wanting a copy with half a brain can get it.  Hmmm. Newegg sells it, so does Amazon.  Does anything think they will not ship a copy to Australia?  Any aussie could have an online buddy mail him one.  

Valve could even set it up where they would just sell the license key.  You get the media however you want.  P2P come to mind?  FTP servers? 

Geez,  legislators are ignorant idiots.  

 

 

 

 

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I Jedi

If a customer in Austrlia is buying an item off of Amazon.com or Newegg, then wouldn't it make sense that the retailer would know that the product that particular person in Austrlia bought was banned in that country? After all, retailers don't want to get into a law suit from a government gone mad. No, it'll be under-the-table handing around of L4D 2.

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erolsipar

If they I lived in Australia I would move to another country what kind of fuking rights is that. I love to be a Canadian and I love to live in Turkey.
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Devo85x

But you would have to visit Australia after you left... at least for the blonds... :)

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Dexter243

if any one in Australia wants a copy just contac some one in the us and have then send it to you :-)

hell ill mail it to you for cost 

 

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Havok

 I'm gonna take a page out of someone else's book -

"But can they play GTA4?"

 

 

OMGWTFBBQ

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mps725

GTAIV doesn't have limb removal, wild crazy blood splatters (they are there but not like in L4D series) and decapitation.

I mean come on... GTAIV you can only run people over, have intercourse with hookers, beat people to death with bats/fists, constant swearing, racism, theft, robbery, hi-jacking, the ability to stand over an already downed body and stab it repeatedly until money comes out and have Niko spout, "guess you won't be needing this anymore."

I could go on... but really... L4D2 is way worse. /s

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I Jedi

Hello Kitty Island for the pussy Australians and more L4D 2 for the American here. :}

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chaos.13037

Can they block Steam from selling that game? Or is Valve not allowed to put it up on Steam for Australian users, can they do that, make it location specific selling over the internet?

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majorsuave

your IP adress identifies your ISP and its country (and often city) of origin so it is fairly easy for an app to mark you as an Australian and adapt the content displayed to you (and sold).

 

 

 

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I Jedi

And that's why a lot of people like to use Proxy servers to hide their own IP addresses. It becomes a lot harder to track the person in question. This was a way that people outside of the U.S. were able to view Hulu videos for awhile. L4D 2 will be in Austrlia, have no doubt. It'll just not be publicly accessible at your local gaming store.

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gendoikari1

Was the first Left 4 Dead banned in Australia? If not, then Michael (Tw)Atkinson has some explaining to do. And I expect P2P sites to have a large spike in downloads from Australia...

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Biceps

The Austrailian government will fine any ISP that allows P2P transfers, with or without their knowledge.  I could be mistaken (meaning they might have changed their minds), but there was a Max PC article about this a while ago. 

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gendoikari1

So is Australia really the Orwellian police state that the news makes it out to be?

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B.A.Frayd

I have one thing to say to the Australian Government:

 

IT'S NOT REAL!   NONE OF IT!

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Biceps

It has been proven beyond a shade of a doubt that New Zealand is much much cooler than Australia.

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Biceps

Is it just me, or does the guy on the left look a lot like Dave Matthews?

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WFUJay

It's just you.  He looks more like Andy Garcia.

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vistageek

So, why don't they release an "Australia edition"?

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Devo85x

Because their main problem with the game is that the zombies look too much like people (from other sites I have read)... got a way to change that?

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mps725

They could release a version where the zombies all have a perfectly square head.  Same game, but square head zombies.  No longer resemble humans!!

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ShroudedWolf51

That is a good point. After all, here, they did release a "watered down" version of GTA:SA and in europe, they did release a "watered down" version of RE4, so I'm guessing that what Valve will do is release a "watered down" version of L4D2 there in order not to lose an entire continent worth of market...

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I Jedi

Because some Australin is going to appreciate a game where all of his U.S. buddies go,"Wow, did you see that zombie explore?" and all the Australin sees is it fall to the ground and do nothing but die.

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joel96

“The game contains realistic, frenetic and unrelenting violence which
is inflicted upon ‘the Infected’ who are living humans infected with a
rabies-like virus that causes them to act violently."

These people bravely stand up for the rights of the life impaired. L4D2 encourages life-ist bias and violence against an unrepresented peoples group. It is no wonder these poor oppressed individual collectivists disagree with the survival instincts of different humans. 

What in the world. This is unreal. 

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nekollx

 i find it funny  the OZ is supporting the rughts of the undead to EAT HUMAN BRAINS

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thommo

Zombies filled with Kittens and children laughter for guns sounds like a great mod ;-) Valve should totally add that as a easter egg - "Non-voilet suitable for Australia Edition" in the options.

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Sina

the level of dictatorship in iran & australia is very high.

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Sina

haha... lol

australia is just like iran: retarded rules.

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arkweld

and just like America.

This game has not been banned. It's been refused classification. Which means you can own the game, you just can't buy it from an Aussie retailer in it's current state.

Which is exactly the same situation that America put Manhunt, GTA:SA, Farenheit, The original Witcher, or any AO rated game in.

The number of times I've had to import a game from Europe because America can't deal with nipples is equally ridiculous.

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Xee

Why don't they just rate it R18+?
Australia has no R18+rating for video games.
Why doesn't Australia have an R18+ rating for video games?
A single man, South Australian Attorney-General, Michael Atkinson doesn't want an R18+ rating, despite overwhelming  public demand.
Why does one man get to determine what is right for everyone else?
The system is flawed.

Michael Atkinson has the appearance of a man who has never and will never actually play a video game, why then is someone with no actual experience in the industry in charge of what is acceptable conduct within?

It's time to send a message to Mr Atkinson, introduce a mature ratings system to the video game industry or turn over your duties to someone better qualified.

Contact The Attorney-General and tell him what you think:

Phone
8207 1723

Fax
8207 1736

E-Mail
attorney-general@agd.sa.gov.au

Postal Address
GPO Box 464
ADELAIDE SA 5001

Office
11th Floor, 45 Pirie Street
ADELAIDE SA 5000

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mesiah

I think it would be hilarious if they made an "Australian Edition" where instead of guns and clubs you wield silly string and lolly pops. And all the blood and gore was replaced with happy faces spraying from your victims. Of course it would have to be offered everywhere else in DLC form. It would probably make it the single greatest game of all time.... ok, maybe not that good, but definitely a memorable one.

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NeoTifa

That's not blood coming from the zombies, it's red Pixi-Stix!

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rachelandjarod

As Australians, we are frustrated by the Office of Film and Literature Classifications consistant inability to move with the times. The OFLC is backed by a government to afraid to alienate an ageing and out of touch population. The OFLC has R18+ classification for films but only 15+ classification for games. With the average gamer age in the mid 20's, the OFLC needs to realize that video games are no longer only for children. 

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Darth Ninja

Great, now I'm going to have to mail a copy to my friend in Australia, but will he pay me shipping? nooooo!

lol@software bans in 2009 

 

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K0BALT

Nuke the whole continent, just to be safe....

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K0BALT

.....they're bannning the only knowledge to fight off the resistance of the undead which is, in turn, themselves.....

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Ryan Whitwam

It's stupid to ban a game in general, but it sounds like these people have never heard of zombies. Live humans, indeed.

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K0BALT

Can't they just order it from a place in the US or even easier, just D/L it?

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wolf17

They may be able to have someone from the US buy it and gift it to them, say if they have relatives here.  Or maybe there's a way to fool steam into thinking they're buying it in the US?  I imagine it's only banned to purchase the game, not to play it, so they could still proabably play the game via steam, even if they can't technically buy it :P.

"Life is about living, not stressing" - a very smart girl :)

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wolf17

"Guess it’s time to start stuffing those zombies with marzipan and
kittens instead of blood and bone. And maybe replace gunfire with the
sound of children’s laughter. Yeah, that ought to do it."

Nah, that's /still/ too risky haha.

 But someone should def. do a mod of L4D2 of what you just said; it'll go great with that freeware ponies game Murphy wrote about a couple weeks ago haha.

just kidding!

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