Lawmakers Look to Shutter Pirate Sites Faster
A group of Senators in the US are apparently tired of all these dirty, rotten pirate sites flaunting their copyright infringing ways. The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act would, if passed, allow the Justice Department to close down sites found to be sharing illegal content more quickly, regardless of whether the owner is located inside or outside the US.
Under the legislation, sites that are hosted in the US could be closed immediately. Those based overseas could not be closed directly, but the Justice Department would be able to serve court orders to third parties like ISPs, payment processors, and advertisers. From this language, we can assume the Justice Department would be attempting to block these sites from being accessed in the US.
The RIAA and MPAA have been working hard to get ISPs to cut off customers accused of pirating content, but this bill could make that effort moot. Could the new legislation mean ISPs would have to block infringing websites? How would a site's status be determined? It is also unclear if US-based site owners would have a chance to dispute their designation. So many questions; hopefully we'll get some solid answers before things move forward. How does this proposed legislation strike you?

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davidb231
September 21, 2010 at 12:07pm
“Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act,” is cosponsored by Committee members Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), Arlen Specter (D-Pa.), Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), and Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.). Senators Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and George Voinovich (R-Ohio) are also cosponsors of the legislation.
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zepontiff
September 21, 2010 at 11:55am
I really wish they would find a way to stop pirating completely so they could see that nobody wants to buy crap.
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bling581
September 21, 2010 at 9:54am
With the state of the economy, and all the other crap that's going on in our country today, it's nice to see our government has it's priorities straight.
/end sarcasm
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chart2006
September 21, 2010 at 6:50am
I generally don't pirate software or anything else for that matter (I used to for mp3s back in the day but now I buy from Zune since it’s the right thing to do) however I do support the use of P2P. If this legislation is passed then our digital highway is going to turn into a digital gravel road since P2P sites are to blame for the pirating issue (even if they say they don’t condone it). Once the government gets the taste of blocking pirating sites they'll start looking at blocking other sites as well. I enjoy my freedom of browsing whatever website I want and downloading whatever malware I feel like infecting my computer with. The issue is I have the choice and if that choice is taken away then the government is regulating content which is completely unacceptable. We’re not Iran or North Korea here. We have freedoms to do whatever stupid thing we want (as the BK commercial always says).
I sometimes use the P2P sites to download the OCCASSIONAL TV show that I might have missed that doesn’t appear on the provider’s website or Hulu. It’s not as if I’m downloading the entire season just the shows I miss then I delete once my obsession has been satisfied. By doing this a few years back I received a C & D letter from Disney. This upset me because how would Disney know I downloaded a show of theirs unless they were monitoring me? This further upset me because there is no easy way to catch back up on a missed episode when it comes to some shows. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy that nearly all my shows are now posted on their respective sites so now I watch in that fashion but the issue still remains. This leads to "content restrictions." Just look at what's going on with the movie "Hurt Locker" and the thousands of people who are getting hit with a $2000 fine. That's one hell of a ticket price. Why not just make them buy the movie then they can say that their sales were huge. lol!
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lostcause64
September 21, 2010 at 6:10am
How about that? Our so-called elected pirates, err, I mean officials, plan to go after those evil pirates. I'm not into pirating myself, but this, to me, is more like seatbelt and helmet laws... Makes some people feel good, but changes focus from what really needs fixing. Like government waste, corrupt politicians and corporations...
But then, I'll believe our government works when we get to impose term limits and vote on Congressional pay raises...
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jihnn
September 21, 2010 at 5:22am
been thinking about trying this maybe better do it sooner than later.
i carpool to work, just gonna park in front the starbucks, leave my notebook, hidden of course, and use their ip address to download all that music, books on tape and movies that i deserve.
just gonna do it because i can and to see if it works.
wonder how much content i can get in a week @ 10 hrs a day
teach them to treat us like china treats their people
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unitymind
September 21, 2010 at 1:29am
Sell me the Laurel and Hardy complete collection and I will stop with the pirates. Add complete Tom Baker Doctor Who and I will stop...can you see a trend here? I want the media now and willing to pay for it but someone ahole has it tied up in redtape and I can't watch them.
Also stop with the triple releases like Lord of the Rings - give me both extended/regular cuts on a blue ray and let me watch it on anything I or my household frickin' owns. This new streaming will never be bought into by me when I want to own a movie in my collection and watch the best media output I can while watching it.
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thetechchild
September 20, 2010 at 11:46pm
The government has been trying to pass stupid legislation like this (remember that proposed Internet shutdown button, also discussed at MPC) since piracy became a loss of profit. The only ones losing thanks to piracy are large corporations, who are already making enough money and supplying enough jobs. I can't see anybody dying thanks to digital piracy, only businesses who make *billions* of dollars per quarter losing a few million over the course of an entire year.
Honestly, this law will die like all the rest. If not, people will find ways to bypass it, and if even that fails, we'll have riots to protest censorship. Net neutrality will force its way through, via tyranny of the majority, like it or not.
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snapple00
September 20, 2010 at 11:59pm
Corporations are making enough money? According to you? I love how there are so many posts from kids who think their "evil corporation" opinions matter.. Grow up.
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HiGHRoLLeR038
September 20, 2010 at 10:40pm
sounds just like what korea does, blocks websites and filters web traffic. this is illegal in our country because we have rights to free information.
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whitneymr
September 20, 2010 at 8:00pm
Excuss me but what happened that thing in the lawbooks about there must be due process before doing anything of this nature?
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ShadowDragoonFTW
September 21, 2010 at 5:42am
And, what exactly, by your definition, is "anything of this nature"?
Are you talking about arresting people openly doing something illegal, like, say, distributing pirated software? And then shutting down said site to prevent any more illicit activities?
You do know that this is pretty much completely within the government's rights, right?
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Bullwinkle J Moose
September 20, 2010 at 7:16pm
That would be great if they could close down Microsoft immediatly!
Unfortunately we all know how this game works!
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gendoikari1
September 20, 2010 at 5:21pm
Why do the lawmakers think that they have jurisdiction outside of the USA?
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ShadowDragoonFTW
September 21, 2010 at 3:58am
They don't. Everything in that bill is strictly in-borders. If the site's hosted in the US, they shut it down directly, because it's on our soil. If it's all stuff that's from another country, they bear down on the ISPs and people on US soil that knowingly associate with the site, so that it can't be gotten to from inside the US. It's actually not a bad workaround, but the piraters will find a workaround of their workaround a lot easier this way.
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Jox
September 20, 2010 at 4:34pm
Day1 - Pirate Website, located outside of the USA, is declared a pirate site by the US government and ISP's are forced to block access to it.
Day 2 - Pirate website sets up redirect via anonymous proxy, effectively defeating any attempts to block it.
The only story here is the "slippery slope" to censorship mentioned by others. The rest is moot.
Piracy has existed in the PC world for almost as long as there has been a PC world. There is one way and ONE WAY ONLY that piracy will die: when the value and simplicity of the media (game, music, movie) exceeds the hassle of getting it for free. When I buy a piece of software, I should be able to install it on every machine I own. Don't think so? What if you bought a car but it was illegal for your wife to drive it? When I buy music or video, I should be able to play it on any device I own (and that includes ripping it to alternative formats). Don't think so? What if you went to the hardware store and bought paint for your living room that you weren't allowed to use in the basement?
What do the MPAA/RIAA/ASSHOLAA think I'm going to do? Install software on a PC and give the PC away? Am I going to copy a movie to an Ipad and give the Ipad away? Of course not! Yes, I could copy a movie to your Ipad for you, but guess what? There's absolutely nothing stopping me from doing that now. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Your wretched DRM schemes do nothing but discourage people from playing by the rules. Piracy has grown exponentially in the last 25 years and a large segment of that population is people who just don't want to deal with DRM. Make your media WORTH purchasing and people will purchase it. Let people use it as they wish (within their own household) and you'll more than make up any perceived loss.
People will follow the path of least resistance. Today, that path is piracy. Tomorrow...
-Jox
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aviaggio
September 20, 2010 at 5:43pm
Silly boy, don't you know your common sense approach has no place in corporate America!
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ShadowDragoonFTW
September 21, 2010 at 4:02am
Ahh, idealism, thy name is... Jox, apparently.
But, yeah. Everything you say is completely true and accurate. But, corporations won't be happy until piracy is completely dead. They'd rather FORCE you to buy their product than make it WORTH buying over piracy. Why? Because it's less work for them to complain to a government agency (or pseudo-government agency) than to make their product better.
Hey, whadda ya know! Path of least resistance! :D
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Blaze589
September 20, 2010 at 4:08pm
If you want to stop the illegal distribution of copyright content this is the best way of doing it if the world was under a unified jurisprudence. Given that this isn't the case it won't work.
I personally hope this doesn't pass for one reason; my distrust for this government. If we give them the means to do this they'll just abuse the privilege for their own personal gain in other matters.
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rock67
September 20, 2010 at 4:03pm
I should have gone to law school then maybe I would have some job security. Seems the US government should have bigger things to do than help the movie and software industries with their problems. If this type of legislation passes, then I think that it would really put an end to the wild westish side of the Internet that I so love. No I don't believe for a minute that this is about creating jobs in America either. It's about corporate greed. Nor do I believe that this type of action would help the US economy or anyone else outside of a bunch big business executives and of course those law makers that us common people need to help keep us in line.
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intelati
September 20, 2010 at 3:06pm
Free speech is the base of USA. This first, then it'll shut down the blog sites that are anarchist...
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Biceps
September 20, 2010 at 3:22pm
Anyone who has suffered the wrath of one of my many flames on this site knows I hate pirates and disagree with the half-assed excuses they use to justify their thievery.
That said, any lawmaker who votes in favor of this bill will get exactly NO votes from me ever again. This is the first step on the slippery slope of censorship, and it is the wrong way to go. This has the potential to go so so so very wrong. Intelati is right, 100%.
P.S. For those lawmakers out there who even know how to turn on a computer... it takes approximately 34 seconds to set up a new site linking to pirated material. Blocking sites will accomplish exactly nothing... except censorship.
No Vote for You!
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aviaggio
September 20, 2010 at 3:49pm
No one in their right mind would host a piracy site in the US. And while they talk about how this bill will be able to target sites in other countries I'd really like to see how that works out for them, especially in countries that routinely give the US the middle finger when they come a-callin'.
Seriously, doesn't our government have anything better to do than lick the asses of the MPAA and RIAA? Oh, I dunno, like maybe fixing the economy and creating jobs? Y'know, important stuff? Nothing like big corporate $$$ to get totally unnecessary and retarded laws passed.
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Zachary K.
September 20, 2010 at 3:04pm
could this be the comeuppance that i have been waiting for pirates to get? probably not, but wishful thinking never hurt anyone.
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