ITG xpPhone Successor to Run Windows 8

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illusionslayer

I stopped reading after you said ""I do not know why the phones get very hot, and make me sweat all over the glass,"

Because, honestly, anyone that doesn't understand why a phone might get hot isn't well educated enough to argue about phones.

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Holly Golightly

Wow, now that... Is super cool. It would be great to compare Windows Phone Apollo to Windows 8. I have never seen the original XP version of this phone here in NYC so... 

I must say, I am absolutely impressed by the amount of space it offers. You can't go wrong with 112GB of storage from a phone. I mean, the highest currently in market is the Apple iPhone 4S 64GB version which will run you up $400 big ones! My fear is that this xpPhone is going to cost so much more due to the storage capacity. 

I feel that cellphones are overrated these days and they do not need to stress them as much. Sooner or later phones will go out of style for tablets. Demand will grow for a fuller experience, and Windows 8 has got them covered. So I say, smart choice on behalf of ITG.

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Keith E. Whisman

The logical future leads to everyone owning an Astromech trashcan droid, preferably ones that look more like Oscar the Grouch than R2D2.

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Holly Golightly

Yes, and in the future our army will finally get to dress like storm troopers and our turkeys will be genetically modified to be as big as Big Bird himself. LOL, too good. I am seriously laughing my arse off on this one. Who knows what the future may bring?

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illusionslayer

You think the cheap SSD or HDD they'll use in this thing will cost more than 64gb of flash?

 

 

I mean , it will cost quite a bit due to the fact that it has twice the ram of today's phones and uses a processor that costs three times as much as today's tegra 3.

 

Tablet's aren't going to overtake a phones job any time in the forseable future. Why? People can easily carry, use, and interact with, a phone on the go.

Phone: Gotta make a call? Sure hold on a second. *pulls out phone and makes call with phone to head like normal person.

Tablet: Gotta make a call? Ugh, let me get out my tablet. *Pulls out tablet finds his phone app, calls while talking into his lap at the tablet.

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Holly Golightly

Yeah, but you forgot one critical part, with a tablet, you can make free phone calls with the Skype App. Sure launching an app is boring and whatever, but today's cellphone bills, data caps, and lengthy contracts, who can afford such thing? People want bigger phones. Samsung will release a phone that is 5.3" which basically makes that phone a hybrid between tablet and smartphone. Think: evolution. Heck, Dell's Slate 5 is called a tablet and it is smaller than that Samsung. This is why I see tablets as the future cellphones. I mean, they are bigger, cheaper, and don't really require that commitment most cellphones demand. Therefore, tablets are more economically practical. Most people prefer to text instead of making phone calls. I do know a few grannies who are all talk and no text. But most people our age prefer to text, send IMs, send photos and use social networks. Another thing, I know many cellphones get mega hot when you talk through them for so long, and with such short battery life, why would one want to worry about pay so much for so little? When it comes to form, yes, smaller is better, and cellphones win but bigger is better.

About that phone. Phones are typically priced based on storage capacity and not by RAM, although you are absolutely correct, this phone does have some unusual specs. Atom processors are redunant these days. There are much better choices to choose from like Qualcomm and Arm. As for RAM, I say, the more the better. If I am going to spend a lot, I better get as much RAM as possible.

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illusionslayer

>Free phone calls
Only if you're using free wifi and even then you can do it with your phone.

The only reason the Slate isn't considered a phone is because it simply isn't a phone. It can't make calls over traditional networks.

Why should people switch to tablets when they can just use their laptops to make calls over skype?

"Another thing, I know many cellphones get mega hot when you talk through them for so long, and with such short battery life, why would one want to worry about pay so much for so little? When it comes to form, yes, smaller is better, and cellphones win but bigger is better." That's all invalidated by the fact that you have to be partially handicapped to not get decent battery time on your phone.

Atom processors are not redundant. That would imply that any system with an Atom in it has some other part in it that can do everything that the Atom would normally have done. They're underpowered, sure, but not redundant by any means.

While today's smartphones are typically priced against the same line in terms of capacity, you'd be a fool to think that the ammount of memory doesn't have a bearing on the price. If it didn't companies would just give us 8gb of ram and send us on our merry ways.

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Holly Golightly

Well that's not true. I have made many calls that lasted more than 2 hours. Out of the 6 phones I had, 4 of them would get very hot if I speak through them for too long. 2 of which get the white screen under load. I do not know why the phones get very hot, and make me sweat all over the glass, but they do. I am not handicap, the phones get unbearably hot after 2 hours, and never go beyond 4. But back to the phones... After extensive hours of talking, I then have to clean the phone after using it. It is easier to put a cellphone in my pocket, but with Verizon charging $300 for new phones, requiring data contracts, I just do not know if it really is worth it to be honest with you. As for WiFi calling, I think only T-Mobile phones do that. Of course, I could always purchase an unlocked phone for the same price of a tablet, but then why not go for the bigger version.

Why the tablet form factor is better then the clamshell laptop... Well for one, when you close most laptops, they go to sleep. Therefore you can not receive your skype calls or any notifications. A tablet has a standby mode just like cellphones. So if someone calls you through skype, you will hear the chime through the tablet. That is because tablets run on a mobile OS, making it a perfect replacement to a phone. The only difference is you do not get the CDMA and GSM radios. Although those radios are brutal on battery life with cellphones as is, I am fine with just the WiFi radio. Don't forget, Skype is locked to voice data as we have seen on Verizon... Sadly. So if you have no Verizon service, but have a Verizon phone... You are pretty much out of luck with Skype. But tablets also behave like computers, so you can download the full version of Skype no problem. Tablets are not locked to any service, and are free to use just about any wifi network. I was thinking about Clear Wireless Unlimited 4G.

Intel Atom is efficient, but compare the battery life to the performance ratio, they just don't seem too match. You get less than 5 hours on an Atom processor and hardly any performance with that. The others give you a range of 7 to 10 hours of battery life and give you enough power to run casual games. The fact that the competition does more for less, makes it seem like the Intel Atom is redundant. Although the Atom does its' job fairly, not excellent.

I know that RAM plays a vital role, but look at the iPhone... The amount of RAM is never listed in sites. The iPhone clearly sells based on storage space and nothing more. This includes many Windows Phones as well, which includes the Nokia Lumia 800.  They have the same amount of RAM across the board, but their prices vary greatly on storage. With that said, I would love to see a phone come with 8GB of RAM... I may just ditch my old desktop and my laptop with a phone of that kind of power. Maybe when phones come with the Tegra 4, hexacore processor, 1TB storage, and and 16GB of RAM... It is hard to imagine but I know it will definitely happen. By then, my guess is big desktops and weak laptops will be obsolete if they have phones and tablets that can match their performance, or even out perform them. As for smartphones, they are great, they just need to lower their bills. The cellphone industry is beginning to look a lot more like the cable industry. High prices for big packages you will probably never utitlize.

 

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illusionslayer

"I do not know why the phones get very hot, and make me sweat all over the glass,"

That statement invalidates any further statement you might make invlolving technology. Just thought I should let you know that.

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Holly Golightly

They are facts, if you do not like the ugly truth, then get bent!

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