ITC Gives Rambus (*cough* Patent Troll *cough*) Permission to Investigate Nvidia

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Okay12

Here..

 http://www.scribd.com/doc/4035349/Complaint-Nvidia-v-Rambus

Good read. Here is a court filing from nvidia against rambus dated
7-11-08.

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Okay12

See page 37.

http://www.ftc.gov/os/adjpro/d9302/060802commissionopinion.pdf

 PUBLIC RECORD VERSION

dispute about what Rambus did, because much of the evidence in the record regarding Rambus’s conduct came from Rambus’s own documents and witnesses.170

Based on that evidence, we find that Rambus concealed the patent applications it filed, and the patents it obtained, until JEDEC had adopted its SDRAM and DDR SDRAM standards. Once those standards were adopted, Rambus abused their adoption by suing firms that practiced the standards for patent infringement. Rambus also used information derived from JEDEC meetings to develop a patent portfolio that would cover JEDEC’s SDRAM standards – a practice which, although it may not be clearly “deceptive” standing alone, nonetheless facilitates hold-up in a cooperative standard-setting context.

The record reveals the following chronology of events.

a. The Chronology of Concealment

1991. JEDEC was in the early stages of work on the SDRAM standard171 when Rambus attended its first JEDEC meeting and joined JEDEC in December 1991.172 Within a few days of that JEDEC meeting, Rambus’s Executive Vice President (EVP), Allen Roberts, called Lester Vincent, Rambus’s outside patent counsel, to speak with him about “patent deadlines”; Roberts also informed staff that a Rambus goal for the first quarter of 1992 was “patent filing.”173

1992. Rambus engineer William Garrett represented Rambus at its first JEDEC meeting as a member in February 1992. Following the meeting, Garrett reported to his supervisors that SDRAMs were inevitable and that SDRAM could be standardized sooner than expected.174 Shortly afterwards, on March 5, 1992, Rambus responded to the PTO’s restriction requirement175 

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n0t_a_n00b2

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winmaster

Can't you see people are trying to have a discussion here? 

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xs0u1x

pwnd.

 

 

 

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nekollx

what you got ta say now sukka!

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nekollx

Differ I will, beg to do....

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You wish.

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pwnd

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n0t_a_n00b2

And the honour of the 75th comment goes to ......... ME!!

 

I would like to thank the honourable judges for giving me this award.  And of course, ME!!! 

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Keith E. Whisman

Well it's been at least 12hours since the last post on this blog.. Is it over on this blog? Nobody has anything more to say?

 

 

 

Ha ha ha ha... I get the last word....ha ha ha........

 

 

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n0t_a_n00b2

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xs0u1x

no you dont@! i get the last word!

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Keith E. Whisman

Um... Ok..

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bcweir

You will ALL BE SUED for copyright infringement!

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nekollx

the term "patent Troll" has nothing to do with legitimacy, muck like a Forum Troll Trolling is excessive and constent badgering. Justified or not Rambus is still "trolling" by Interwebz standards.

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ghot

ATI has only been with AMD for what, a year or two now?  I can't understand why nVidia (assuming Rambus actually has a valid case) would not also have paid Rambus royalties et al?  At the time these suits started, nVidia had a much larger market share than ATI....I would think they would MORE readily pay licensing fees or royalties, assuming Rambus actually has a valid case.  I'm more willing to believe that Rambus is simply suing or threatening to sue anyone they can.  I think nVidia just stood up and said:  NO!  :)

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AppleOunce

They actually requested that the DRAM makers indemnify them in 2000. And they continued to infringe. Why would they if there was better tachnology than Rambus's?

Take a look at items 84, 86 and 87.

http://rambus.org/legal/hynix/2004-09-20_H-R_487_Appendix_T_annotated.pdf

Willful infringement carries triple damages.

 

All the best, turtle wax.

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GreenTurtle

 Is this how you attempt to sway public opinion, through insults?

 Not a particularly good business model. You might want to head back to valuevillage.com or whatever site your from....oh..excuse me ..... investorvillage.com to regroup.

 But then who cares right!!! as long as the lawsuits and money keep rolling in, who cares what people think.That is what you said right? They only answer to the investors in the company and the stocks have doubled in two weeks.

 

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ghot

Why aren't they suing ATI, Corsair, OCZ, VIA, Intel and every other company that uses memory?  Why nVidia  lol?

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jwalch.hawk

AMD/ATI already settled in court and is paying Rambus royalties.

IIRC, Intel never had to go to court about it and has paid Rambus royalties for quite a while now.

I'm pretty sure you can throw Samsung and Toshiba into the hat also.

It is an interesting point that Rambus does not appear interested in targetting the major DDR manufacturers, though.

**EDIT**:  This is because they are concerned with the memory controller itself, not the actual memory...  Since a stick of RAM doesn't control itself (but is instead controlled either by the CPU or the chipset, depending on which particular architecture you're talking about).  Ergo, they could really care less about Corsair,OCZ, etc. because they don't actually make controllers as far as I know.

**Not an edit** It's a tricky situation, because if Rambus had their way, they would be squeezing the hell out of everyone on licensing fees.  They've had the FTC on their backs about anti-trust stuff early in the millenium as a product of that.  That said, their initial invention really did a lot for modern memory, and imho they probably have not gotten what they deserve for it.

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Keith E. Whisman

Shhhhhhhhh They will...

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RAID

I've conducted extensive research and have come across some eye opening information that I would like to share with you.  Without RAMBUS the following would have never been possible:

- the Iraq war

- WNBA

- Enron

- 9/11 

- Global warming

- Virginia Tech massacre

- AIDS

- the current economic recession

And the list goes on.  Good job RAMBUS

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killallinfringers

Drew and not U, If Rambus' IP is obsolete, why are so many memory & controller manufactureres stealing their technology? If the infringing companies could invent around Rambus' still ground breaking technologies, they would.  They can't. Rambus has over 1,000 patents & patent applications, so the infringers better be prepared to pay Rambus for using their IP out into the forseeable future. It must be a fairytale world in which companies can just steal others patented IP because they want it but then think they can refuse to pay.  Pay up, or stop using the IP, but even if they stop using it (impossible), they still owe for past infringement, some of which will be deemed willfull and subject to up to triple damages. IMHO 

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drew and not u

http://techdirt.com/articles/20070205/124217.shtml

"Still, that never stops the somewhat rabid investors in Rambus from flooding many message boards insisting that the company can do no wrong -- and anyone who points to some of the more questionable patenting activities of the company is obviously part of some grand conspiracy (we've even been accused of corruption after discussing one Rambus case)."

 

 

I could care less what RAMBUS may have done in the past, lots of companies started out as a "good guy." Today they're nothing more than a sad, obsolete organizations, getting by leeching off of other companies innovations.

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GreenTurtle

 I appreciate all the info provided in the posts. I can now make an informed decision on the matter.

 After reading all of the information; I came to a realization...... I really don't care. Honestly.

 Origional decision stands. * PATENT TROLL *

 

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ScruffyNYC

 

Meet Mike Farmwald, one of the inventors of the Rambus system forcreating ultra-fast chip to chip connections, especially those used in memorysystems! 

http://www.farmwald.com/mikehtml.html

 One interesting point that is seldom publicized but can befound in the transcripts from many of the litigation venues is that Mikeoriginally approached IBM about this new way ofspeeding up memory chips. 

He could not get an audience at IBM, but was introduced toa retired "IBM Fellow". Mikeflew out for a meeting at the man's upstate New York home. He scribbled theRambus concepts on a napkin. A few days later, IBM offered Rambus 10 milliondollars for the rights to the system. Rambus (all 2 employees at the time)turned down 10 million bucks in 1990!

IBM saw something thatwould change the industry. Michael Dell saw it (pg 144 of his book),  butunfortunately for Rambus, a criminal cartel made up of multi-billion dollar,multi-national memory chip manufacturers saw it too and decided to sign NDA's,incorporate the Rambus technology and through their combined efforts and political connections to destroyRambus. 

Fortunately for Rambus,  they have not only survived but are thriving as they have been winning court case after court case against the companies that tried to destroy them, and have continued to invent the things that  the industry doesn’t even know it needs yet!

 

 

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Napoleon_on_Elba

Meet Mark Horowitz, the other founder of Rambus

 

http://www-vlsi.stanford.edu/~horowitz/

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QUINTIX256

...knows his stuff. Only 100mhz without the miracle of Rambus? (" You'd still be working with 100MHz if Rambus hadn't come along." to use your very own words.) C'mon, are you thinking a little highly of this company? For God's sake, I check out that rambus.org page, and there is a stock ticker right on their page, going up of course. I go browsing around... so-called investment advice.

My primary complaint was about these lengthy posts by people posting for the first time, and I openly suggested that they are on rambus's payroll, directly or indirectly (like you probably). 

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dadocisout2006

It is probably the first time that you have see this flurry because it is the first time folks who know the Rambus story have stumbled accross this particular idiot page.  It has nothing to do with any corporate Rambus strategy.  It deals with people who follow the Rambus story and know who is trying to screw whom.

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QUINTIX256

"thieving cartel of the biggest memory companies"
"BLAZING FAST at 33Mhz"
"You'd still be working with 100MHz if Rambus hadn't come along."

 

O.k, 33Mhz, 100Mhz, a 3x multiplier?

It has been a long time since I seen so many prompt long comments, let alone long impassioned comments against a prevailing view by first time posters. O.k, admitedly I am a first time poster, but still... I wonder if RAMBUS has a underground P.R. campaign that exceeds the cost of their legal fees --I mean--R&D and cost of innovation

If these impassioned first time posters have IP addresses from the same general area, then they should all be smacked with a ban stick, if not investigated.

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AppleOunce

Meet all the <i>first time posters</i> here at http://investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=3666&pt=m They are all long-time posters there. Someone gave us a heads up on the crap spewed here.

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jwalch.hawk

The posts being ridiculous is almost to be expected.

 

What's ridiculous was this article, or more specifically the title...

 

C'mon, Mr. Lilly...  How in the hell can you, as a journalist and thus with a vested interest in, be so flippant about the treatment of IP?  This is disappointing to me, because for the most part I've liked your articles on here. :/

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