Internet Explorer Might Always Be the Most Popular Browser (Or Not)

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KoiMaxx

I've been jumping between Firefox, Chrome and Maxthon. I use Firefox as my primary since I've been using it for a long time. Maxthon was something I tried out for a while until Chrome caught up with HTML5 support. I might have decided to use Chrome as my primary, except for one major gripe... it still has the same issue with print pagination that makes it impossible to customize how a site prints. If I want to print a site to a certain size, width or number of pages I'd have to use Firefox.

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Nyarlathotep

We have been using Chrome on our living room PC to watch television since we cancelled the cable last year. Lately we have had problems playing flash video. The errors say flash is out of date but you cannot update just the flash player since it's integrated into Chrome and Chrome says it's up to date.

Has anyone else run into this?

We have gone back to IE for now.

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tony2tonez

Firefox is my main choice. The wife uses IE, i actually think MS made a big improvement over the years for IE. I just started trying Firefox for Android, and been using the sync options to bring my bookmarks over to Android. Although I probably use Dolphin more on my phone.

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thechipper

I think the testing methodology is done wrong and should take features from both methods.
More sites = better. Testing 40k sites for over 1billion users is kind of ridiculous. 40k websites doesn't cover enough ground. 3million is more feasible.

Unique visits = accuracy? Yes unique views are important in finding how many users are using what. But power users tend to lean more towards firefox or chrome. Making up a more substantial usage of the internet than casual users.

In any case I don't know if these companies are chewing out their research teams for result disparity or not. But I would.

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philipa25

Firefox is my main browser with IE as a secondary. I've tried to make chrome at least my secondary browser a few times but can't start that absolutely horrible interface and don't have hours to go through trying to find extensions to make it functional because they can't let you just customize it.

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Typo91

I've used them all.

Firefox is by far the best.

I lot of people claim high tech knowledge and yet arn't. Blame the program on the top of the screen for freezes, hangs, and other problems.

Its true with more plugins and use, that browser is going to be the one hit by bugs, and whatever glitches are in the webpage code.

Nowadays if you dont roll with a HOSTS file you are going to have all sorts of problems on any browser, especially the one that tries to display all the content.

I've been leaving firefox 15 and newer open with 15 tabs open on my home pc for days without any problem.

Also yes some sites are designed for IE only, but firefox has a setting for that, I have a lot of company sites that only work in IE, because the people that make those sites went to webpage school in college 8 years ago, and barely know how to write a proper webpage.

tl:dr Firefox ftw

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stevinp

I am curious about those that say they leave home and come back and their computers all slow from Firefox memory leaks. Why do you leave the browser up and running when you are not home? I never have any problems with Firefox. But then I don't leave it open when I am not around.

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warptek2010

FF and Chrome here. Thinking about going back to Waterfox 64bit.

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livebriand

I use Chrome - it's fastest and has plenty of addons. Firefox has plenty of addons, but they STILL haven't done much of anything about the slow UI. IE, on the other hand, doesn't obey standards, lacks addons, and isn't the fastest either, so I uninstalled it.

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cmasupra

I have all 3 browsers installed and I use all 3. This is what I have come up with for each browser:

FireFox: Randomly freezes twice a day for 15 seconds each time.
Chrome: Not enough options and plugins.
IE: Not enough plugins and doesn't load previous tabs automatically.

I use all 3 for various reasons, but FF is my favorite because of all the plugins it has that Chrome and IE both don't have good equivalents for.

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bigrigross

I use chrome most of the time. I use two plug-ins and thats Lastpass and Ad-block, I see no need for any others. Probably the reason why your firefox freezes on you. I only use firefox when I go to a site that I cant use chrome or when doing work things.

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zepolnavi

IE is very slow, however mozilla and chrome are very good and fast with many tools , but the truth chrome canary, very good and fast.

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Wolfy78

I prefer Chome, though I use Palemoon a lot. The problem I have with all Mozzila based browsers in the annoying memory leak. They keep saying they fixed, but I leave the house for a few hours and come home to my PC bogged down by that pesky leak, LOL. I then kill the page and restart it. Never have that problem with Chrome, though now I keep getting the BSD with Chrome so have made Palemoon my default. I just wish the memory leak issue would be fixed for ALL users.

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dakishimesan

This.

Even on my Mac Mini with Sandy Bridge/8Gb Corsair Vengeance RAM/Intel 520 SSD, I come home to fine Firefox leaking memory all of the goddam place. I finally switched to Chrome on MacOSX and on my win64 dual boot.

On MacOSX, Safari is actually fast as all hell. I just hate the way zoom works, of all things, and the tab text is too small. Funny how the little things matter a lot.

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AlBSure

A feature i use a lot on FF is the "send a link" option which I found out I need when I tried Chrome, plus all the add-ons. For those IE sites I use IE Tab which works wonderfully.Its become such a burden to use IE here at work that I began mandating that everyone uses FF. you'll be surprised how much of my Atty's said "o I use FF at home I rather that than IE"

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jgottberg

I know I'll get lambasted for saying this but I use IE. I have tried using the alternate browsers but there always seems to be an annoying incompatibility with some website that prevents me from seeing it correctly. I then I have to switch to IE anyways.

And honestly, it's more of a beast of burden for me, a means to an end. Just get me to the page I requested, render it correctly... That's all I ask.

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xmichaelx

Firefox for development (too many great add-ons that Chrome doesn't *quite* duplicate); Chrome for surfing.

I thought IE had started to catch up standards-wise, but then I recently did some Wordpress & Drupal theming. IE9 might as well be IE6, for all the workarounds still necessary.

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0ly1r3m@1ns

Firefox 18 is by far the fastest browser I have ever used, it beats chrome in terms of speed and you get the wonderful firefox extensions. Chrome is still fairly fast and extensible followed by Safari (its a good Webkit browser on mac shit on windows) and honestly IE is just down right pitiful doesn't support web standards god awfull font rendering and no extensibility or customization support.

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Sir Hobbes3

You realize we're only up to Firefox 15.0.1 right?
But yeah, I prefer Firefox.

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kixofmyg0t

Here I am still using WaterFox 13.

:/

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Scatter

18?

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0ly1r3m@1ns

Firefox nightly, it has the new IronMonkey java script engine and the new image scalling. it runs laps around chrome

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goomothesumo

I just switched over to Chrome. I really like firefox, I've been using it for 6+ years, but it was giving me some problems and I just decided to make the switch.

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DerfMcWoowoo

As a Maximum PC subscriber and PC enthusiast, I am legally required to say Chrome.

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wolfing

watch for Safari. As more and more browsing happens using tablets/phones, default browsers in them will increase their share. Problem is, most non-Apple devices include their own 'customized' browser, except for iDevices which use Safari by default, so expect Safari to gain share. (If Chrome was the default browser for all Android devices then it'd go up too, but that's not the case, at least not now).

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xmichaelx

Chrome was a little slow out of the gate on Android, but it works pretty great on ICS & Jelly Bean. I'd expect it to become the Android default within a year.

Never used Safari browser, except for testing pages. Seems nice, but I like some of Chrome's features enough to make it my standard (on the other hand, if Safari doesn't hide page titles, that might be worth the switch!)

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wolfing

oh I'm not saying Safari is good or better, just saying that it'll gain just because of the nature of business. Does Google determine what the default browser is for a phone or tablet? I don't know if that's true, but I know it's true for Apple since the devices are theirs. So, if 25% of browsing share switches to tablets, let's say it's 50/50 Apple/non-apple, then it's 12.5% gain for Safari, and the other 12.5% is diluted among Chrome and a bunch of 'generic browsers' that ship default with non-apple phones and tablets.

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Dartht33bagger

I've been a Firefox man (I guess Waterfox these days) ever since I switched from IE6 5 years back or so. Chrome is a good browser, but it's far too minimal for me.

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kixofmyg0t

WaterFox here as well.

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praetor_alpha

Waterfox here also. I switched to Firefox from IE around 9 years ago. I moved to Waterfox about a year ago, because Mozilla keeps disenfranchising me without a 64 bit Windows build.

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Zoandar

I prefer Waterfox, but it had developed a serious memory consumption issue recently which, after trying several fixes, could only be eliminated by a reformat and reinstall of Win7 on my SSD. Using the Win7 CPU/Memory gauge widget on the desktop, Waterfox/Firefox 15 would slowly climb to using 99% of my 8GB RAM and then either freeze Win7x64 Home Premium or crash to the desktop. If I closed the FF process, the memory usage would drop to around 30%. Only FF/WF did this. I tried Opera and (shudder) even IE, and they would run OK. After the rebuild, Waterfox 15 (last I checked, with their rabid release who can keep track?) now is back to screaming along in its usual greatness, running the same plugins I always use. Never did learn any other cause for the problem. But since it was only FF/WF, I have to think it was a recurrence of their well known and widely mentioned online "memory leak" issue.

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NavarWynn

I wonder how artificially the numbers are skewed by users who are locked into their browser. Specifically of course I am referring to the browser on their work computers (which in most cases, the user isn't authorized, or capable of installing an alternate browser), or library/school comps. Do either source of data have a way of recording/ or trying to analyze how much this skews their numbers?

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Andrew.Hodge

Opera. Its the only browser that will let me sync between my blackberry torch, note, desktop (between mint, opensuse, and windows), laptop (mint and windows), my wife's MBP, my tablet, and hers. I also love the ability to group and move tabs around any way I please.

One thing that I hate, though is that the standard version of opera makes it impossible to comment on MPC. The results are the same between multiple linux distros, BSD, windows, and OSX. If you guys could look into that, I would appreciate it very much.

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Granite

I'm using:

Opera
Version
12.02
Build
1578

to post this comment.

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Zoandar

Opera Mobile was used on my Android ICS tablet to post this conment.

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Andrew.Hodge

Just desktop. Phone works fine.

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Andrew.Hodge

Just desktop. Phone works fine.

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jnite

Chrome is my first choice and then Firefox. I like them both but Chrome beats Firefox by just a little bit for me.

It won't surprise me in the slightest for IE to stay the be the most used browser. It's the default on Windows and a large number of people don't even realize there are other browsers (or what a browser is).

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TsunamiZ

maxthon browser has nearly every power user feature you need built into the browser and then some

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$m

I used Maxthon back in the day, and recently tried it again only to realize how crappy it is.

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Blaze589

Firefox, Palemoon and Chrome.

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Granite

Opera

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Jeffredo

Firefox only. "NoSquint" works better than any other text/image zooming feature on other browsers.

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Baer

Lots of people use Chrome because they mistakenly downloaded it with an update or something else. Many of them do not even know what browser they use. I run a computer help lab for my city and I can tell you that there are lots of people who come in with complaints about their browser who are using Chrome and have no idea how they got it.
Personally I have just gone back to IE9. I have used just about all that are out there. FF is my second choice at this point.

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dashize

I find myself only using IE at work since its the only accepted browser, I use Chromium on my Linux box, and Chrome on my Home PC, My wife still like waterfox and hates change so i ll leave her at that.

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HiGHRoLLeR038

Chrome. i love the sync feature. Hop on any computer (yours, or not) that has Chrome and sign in - you get your theme, favorites, and saved passwords. Its a great convenience

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jgottberg

I was with you up until the part of saved passwords... That sounds really convenient but I would be a bit concerned about my passwords being stored on remote servers. Just thinking some kind of malware/keylogger could record your login to Chrome and from there gain access your password protected sites. Plausable?

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Zoandar

I won't use Chrome because Google, in their arrogance, refuses to incorporate a master password, saying we "don't need it". Also when I did try it to learn that it has no master password, the plugin list was a joke.

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AlBSure

umm Firefox does this too, and well. I have it syncing my work PC/laptop/Home linux Box/ and my S3

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HiGHRoLLeR038

Oh that's really cool, i had no idea.
Yea, it causes a little bit of concern (the password thing), for me anyway. But i just try not to ever sync chrome on any completly open public computer, like a hotel kiosk or library machine. I like the conveinence for having the same chrome experience on my desktop, laptop, and htpc.

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