Intel's Bottom Line Hurt by Slumping PC Market

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DarkMatter

Bandwidth is the key. It's been proven since SSDs became mainstream that anything that can increase the amount of data given to a CPU/GPU device is far greater than any clock cycle improvement to date. Applications load faster encodes are faster game playing is more fluid ... on and on.

10 years ago you could argue that an increase in CPU speed, even adding more cores ( or physical CPUS on a given system )was a BIG plus! Before the advent of powerful GPUs, and PCIe you could argue that the CPU was the limiting factor, starving the system of much needed data. But now with SandyBridge, Ivy Bridge and soon Haswell, if you can encode a video or audio file 10x real time; 10% to 20% isn't much these days. Why upgrade?

Benchmarks will have to change from "how fast" you can convert or render, leave alone crunch data but how fast can a CPU do these things in parallel ~not just simple multitasking with out breaking a sweat. If you look real carefully we have actually gone back in time and moved forward as well with smartphones just NOW advertising you can "do two things at once" something we have enjoyed on our x86 and AMD systems for quite some time now. Virtualization starting to hitting mainstream now we just have to get into Virtuallized Parallelism which software has yet to catch up to.

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PCLinuxguy

How the hell can intel be hurting? they charge obscenely high prices for their products (and get it, as people buy it like it's drinking water), so even if PC sales slump a bit, they're still very far into the black with room to wiggle. Sounds like Intel is making excuses to raise prices to "recover"

And no I'm not a "retarded AMD fanboi" I own a rig with an i7-2600K @ 4.5Ghz

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biggiebob12345

My total bonuses were still ~10% of salary for the year. Not too shabby even with profits down a bit.

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chop_slap

I doubt we'll see the PC disappear. First of all, few intelligent techs will enjoy working from a tiny screen or swipe a little pad all day. I, for one, had developed some nice neck curving from looking down all the time. I noticed the same in others I know well. Chirocpractors LOVE tablets and smartphones. Anyway, the PC as we know it will remain for a long time. With that said, I want to be comfortably seated and looking at a 24" or larger screens; or multiple screens. I can also use a keyboard on which I can type 100 plus words a minute. This speed will come on tablets and phones one day, but likely not for up to ~10 years which crazy new tech. Have you guys tried actually doing stuff on an iPhone or an Android other than emailing, Facebooking or other such activities? I can't stand it, myself. Every unit will have its place in the world. One is no longer better than the other, just vastly different in vastly different ways and special in its own way. Apples are pretty; like in real life...one is just like the other. PC's are clay; they are whatever you want them to be. Tablets and smartphones are socialite hammers, they are handy talkers.

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Bullwinkle J Moose

This is all Microsoft's fault

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AFDozerman

I'm shocked hearing that coming from you, BJM.

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Electrik

"Intel's performance in 2013 will also depend on how well Windows 8-based devices are able to perform in the market place."

Bye-bye, Intel!

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AFDozerman

I actually kind of see this as a good thing. The market is diverging and spreading to alternative architectures, leading to a more balanced ecosystem. So long as my software could be ported or replaced, I would love to run a higher-end mips/arm/power setup.

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Master__shake

what's the point of upgrading every year for 10-15 percent gains??

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DeltaFIVEengineer

Might as well wait for quantum computers at this point.

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galgotha

If it increase productivity of your task 10-15% that is huge when doing large cpu intensive task.

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AFDozerman

Problem is, upgrading the hard drive to an SSD today will have a larger impact on most professional computer jobs than a faster proc. For webserving nowadays, a fast SSD in a PCIe slot and a good NIC will increase throughput way more than a faster proc. Any compute intensive job such as decryption/encryption can be offloaded to an accelerator card.

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captainjack

Moar Power!!!!!

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galgotha

Blame HP/IBM corporate clients is most likely case, personally our company moved from normal rotation lease program that keep PC Units being replaced with new units every 2 years to a don't replace till its really, really dead. I know we are not the only one to step back from our normal lease program to purchase only when really needed style.

That can drive down Intel's CPU sales for sure.

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Opm2

I also blame the software industry.

Most games are ports from almost decade old consoles.

Windows has streamlined their recent OSs to run on much much older hardware reducing the need to upgrade.

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Penterax

Umm, no. There are more games developed for the PC now than ever before.

That being said, I do agree with the "no need to upgrade", at least generally. An X58 based system from 4 years ago can still be quite powerful today. The raise in CPU capability is in the neighborhood of 3-5%, so the only real reasons to upgrade have nothing to do with CPU power, but other improvements like PCIe 3 and Sata 3.

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