In what will only be interpreted as more evidence of the dawn of the “Post PC era,” Intel announced today that it will quit the consumer motherboard business after 20 years and end all production and development of mainboards after its next CPU is introduced.
The company said it would wind down operations of its Intel Channel Board Division over the next three years with the final new designs released around the company’s upcoming “Haswell” CPU.
“We disclosed internally today that Intel’s Desktop Motherboard Business will begin slowly ramping down over the course of the next three years,” Intel spokesman Daniel Snyder told Maximum PC today. “As Intel gradually ramps down its motherboard business we are ramping up critical areas of the desktop space including integration of innovative solutions for the PC ecosystem such as reference design development, NUC, and other areas to be discussed later.
Intel's Tom Cove motherboard for the company's Clarkdale CPUs
Snyder said the move is no sign Intel believes for a second that desktops are doomed.
“The Desktop segment continues to be a major focus for Intel with hundreds of products across many subsegments and applications. Intel expects the broad and capable [desktop] motherboard ecosystem (i.e. Asus, Gigabyte, MSI and many others) to fully support Intel’s growing roadmap and large worldwide customer base,” Snyder said. “Intel remains very committed to the desktop business. We are making significant investments in the enthusiast platform with our K SKU portfolio and new 3rd Gen Intel Core Extreme Processors. In fact, Intel’s roadmap includes 227 desktop SKUs at 34 different price points, offering desktop solutions for a wide range of customers. In addition, Intel is also significantly investing in the growing All-in-One ecosystem, contributing to 30 percent growth over the last few years,” Snyder said.
Snyder declined to say why Intel chose to shutter the division but one can guess it wasn’t a huge money maker for the multi-billion company. While bad from a PR standpoint, the decision to exit from consumer boards isn’t likely to be felt too far and wide either. In fact, Maximum PC had a difficult time even nailing down exactly how many boards Intel currently sells to consumers. Asus currently is the leader with Gigabyte, Asrock, and then MSI falling into place. Asus and Gigabyte combined account for roughly 70 percent of all motherboards sold worldwide, according to Taiwan-based news site, DigiTimes.com. With these numbers, it’s no surprise that most enthusiasts didn’t even know Intel made motherboards.
Intel’s boards were rarely in the hunt in bling-appeal and on the bleeding edge. Intel’s board division had tried changing that tune though. In 2008, the division turned heads with its Skulltrail motherboard that boasted two Xeon’s rebranded as Core 2 Extreme QX9770 chips. The board even promised to support SLI but actually became a political football between Nvidia and Intel over the former’s license to make chipsets for the then new Core i7 CPUs.
The Skulltrail board was criticized as “ahead of its time” but found a home in that year’s Maximum PC Dream Machine example for being ahead of its time. Other board makers would emulate the Skulltrail to an extent with their own extreme dual-processor motherboards such as eVGA’s SR-series of boards. For the most part Intel boards have long been lauded as being “Intel reliable” but also utterly forgettable by enthusiasts looking for the next hotness in motherboards.
The eventual shuttering of the board division won’t impact Intel’s other board division known as the Customer Reference Board Group. The CRBG is tasked with developing test motherboards for the companies new CPUs and even issues design guidelines and tips to third-party motherboard vendors. CRB boards are usually supplied to OEMs and board makers to conduct very early testing. In fact, Intel’s consumer board division has long joked that it’s usually last in line in getting CRB boards and design criteria because Asus, Gigabyte and other paying customers rated higher.
No matter what Intel says, the move is likely to reignite rumors and continual conspiracy theories that it planned to ditch desktop computing entirely. Just a month ago, Intel was said to be abandoning all sockets for all future desktops once Haswell is released in favor of BGA products that would come soldered into motherboards. Such a move, many pointed out, would indeed signal a sea change for the DIY crowd who like the granularity of picking and choosing their processor separately from motherboards.
The rumor mill grew to such a fervor that Intel itself had to step in after AMD pledged that it would support sockets for the next couple of years by saying it would support sockets for the “foreseeable future” too.
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surfinsam
January 28, 2013 at 9:47am
Are they going to still be making server motherboards because this article keeps referring to their "desktop" motherboard business and I don't think there are any third-party manufacturers for intel server mobos although I haven't really done any Internet research to see if that's true or not
John A
January 24, 2013 at 10:19am
I would think that this also has something to do with the economy which continues to decline world wide and less to do with anything else.
ShyLinuxGuy
January 23, 2013 at 12:23pm
It seems like Intel is giving up on the very reason they exist. Yeah, motherboards aren't their forte like chipsets, device controllers and especially CPUs, but it seems that they really intend to exit the market completely with everything they're saying or doing lately, like x86 is hopeless and over with and ARM will take over completely. This Post-PC era idea is just dreamed up. Lenovo is right, it's a PC-plus era.
AMD is going to get lucky if they really do what they are saying they're going to do.
Opm2
January 23, 2013 at 2:50pm
People overlook the fact that intel recently got into SSDs as well. They are probably just trimming the fat to get into newer areas.
mah_101381
January 26, 2013 at 1:27am
They moved into SSDs and they are making a foothold in the smartphone market with a US model in '14. They have models in Europe and Asia to work out any issues. They just needed to shed some excess fat.
MarioJP
January 23, 2013 at 2:00pm
yeah. Intel just wants to avoid a bad rep like the plague. They took note from Windows 8 and were like ok we just keep supporting this crowd for awhile until it is safe enough to move in to the mobile market. lol.
John Pombrio
January 23, 2013 at 6:12am
I spent a couple of weeks in PR installing and fixing the HP line equipment testing the Intel mobos. I was amazed at how FEW boards were being produced. I figured Intel had the lock on mobos but they certainly did not have more than two lines running at a time.
Now this also completely gets rid of the "no more sockets" for Intel chips rumor. Since Intel will be dependent on other companies to produce their boards, there would hardly be a way to force them to BGA the CPU chip onto the mobo.
Warrior247
January 23, 2013 at 3:33am
Smart move, anyone surprised? Who still builds their PCs anymore? It's not even cost effective to do so. You now got the "BIG DOG" throwing in the towel?!! That is huge, try and downplay it if you want but it is. It's like jungle rot is setting in on the PC. You get the creep, and tyhen off comes some fingers, a toe, a foot, a hand, just to save the whole thing. You can't even buy PC games now. Everything is going "digital donwload". You pay $60 for a scratch off card!! Selection is absolutely piss poor for retail. This is EXACTLY why gamers (many many of you) have dumped the PC or purchased consoles to supplement your gaming. No need to spend thousands on a PC and in upgrades over the years, for what?!!
Now going on 8yr old console hardware vs latest and greatest PC hardware.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/16/dmc-the-pc-version-difference
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/01/15/dmc-devil-may-cry-graphic-comparison-ps3-360-pc
WarpathPS
January 26, 2013 at 8:43pm
Interesting theories, too bad projections show better revenue in PC gaming market than consoles. As for buying premade computers as being cheaper? Not really, especially when that cheap PSU or cheap mobo from Foxconn goes out and your Indian customer service rep is telling you its out of its 1 year warranty and you should just buy a new $400 desktop. How many $500+ laptops are dropped and broken on a daily basis? I'm sorry, but my custom desktop is far cheaper in the long run. How many Dell, Gateway, and HP power supplies do you see pushing 8 years of life? Yeah not many.
Warrior247
January 26, 2013 at 10:54pm
Projections, assumptions, theories always show better PC revenue, growth, absolute domination...until the money is counted. Then the excuses, the blame, the layoffs, the firings, and the bankruptcies start to spread like stink on $h!t. Weren't the "experts" saying that the big three wouldn't make any more consoles because the cost is just to high? Yeah right. Paying retail prices + tax, man hours, ect are more costly than just buying the thing. I'll never do it again. Then the upgrading, RMAing, ect. I've NEVER had a store pre-built PC quit working.
HeartBurnKid
January 24, 2013 at 4:30pm
Wow, your post is just full of outmoded assumptions.
First, Intel isn't the "BIG DOG" in motherboards; as pointed out in this very article, Asus and Gigabyte alone control 70% of the market, which leaves 30% for not only Intel, but also MSI, ASRock, ECS, eVGA, and all the other vendors. Whatever share of that Intel held, it definitely does not make them the "BIG DOG", and it makes their exit from the market make all the more sense; Intel doesn't like to compete if they can't dominate.
Second, what's this "you can't even buy PC games now" bit? I'm sorry about your luck looking for $60 scratch-off cards, but I'm too busy buying the same game for $20 on Steam. Wait, no, I'm not busy at all, because I can just buy it with a click and be done.
And I love your writing off of the entire PC ecosystem because one game that was primarily developed for consoles, with PC support as an afterthought, only looks slightly worse on consoles than on PC. And the really brilliant bit is where you assume that you must spend "thousands" on a gaming PC to get that difference, when the truth is, DmC isn't a very demanding game at all. My living room PC can run it, and all told, I think I've sunk maybe $4-500 into it. When you throw in that, as I mentioned before, games are often much, *much* cheaper on PC, and you have to pay $50 per year for multiplayer on XBox, it's very easy for a frugal PC gamer to have a much lower TCO than a console gamer. Or you can go balls-to-the-wall, spend thousands on a gaming PC, and have experiences that no console can ever touch. And that flexibility is the beauty of PC gaming.
Warrior247
January 25, 2013 at 12:45am
Intel is a big dog period! Besides maybe M$, who's bigger? PC games at retail...suck! Selection is so bad and so old that stores just don't want to dedicate any shelf space to them anymore and it shows. Diablo III via scratchoff card for $60. Can you get Diablo III on Steam? What about WoW, EA games? Uh huh. Also, YOU ARE NOT buying the same game for $20 on Steam, that...is a lie! Games like DMC aren't even available to the PC until 1/24/13 and RE6 3/13 respectively. Well after console release, in which the console gamer has bought the game, beat it, turned it in and received some money back for the effort, or just bought it used at a discount. THAT is just not available to PC gamers, you'll be paying retail or stealing it. Both games, and MANY others have extended release dates or just are not available on PC at all. That is not an assumption, thats a fact!! I'm not writing off anything, the industry is. This whole "post PC era" thing is an indusrty effort to move beyond the PC. The PC is pricey, anything 5 or 6 times the cost (or more) than a $99 console, just to play the same console game is ridiculous. The game is damn identical no matter if you're using an 8yr old console or a $800 GPU! The shots are posted to prove it! Unless you got high before you started playing, what "experiences" are you getting that nobody else is getting by playing the EXACT same game, with the EXACT the same content and it looks EXACTLY the same? Anybody can buy discounted games, so what. The bottom line here is that the way PC games are being treated in stores now is pathetic. What that means overall for the PC can't be good.
HeartBurnKid
January 25, 2013 at 8:30am
It's funny how every single one of your points revolves around DmC. I guess if your entire reason for gaming is DmC, you are better off with a console, sure. Otherwise, you're a moron.
And you're bringing up the $99 console bullshit again? Let me repeat what I said in response to your last disingenuous post:
"A 360 with Kinect is $99... if you commit to paying $15/mo for 2 years. Total cost, $459. Oh, and you only get 4GB of storage, which you'll quickly run out of as your games get patched or you download XBLA games. Better get a hard drive, right? Well, that's another $129 for a whopping 320GB, bringing your total to $588.
Now, tell me again how overpriced your gaming PC is."
Oh, and since you brought up WoW and Diablo 3, please show me the console that can play them. I'll wait.
And as for anybody being able to buy games on discount, please show me any console game, at any time, that gets discounted as heavily as PC game downloads do regularly on Steam, GMG, Amazon, GamersGate, etc. So stores don't carry them? So what? Who wants to shop at Gamestop anyway, when you can just order your games at home for much cheaper and have them in minutes? And yes, that price difference is real. Sleeping Dogs is $35 for 360 and $45 for PS3 on Amazon right now. I bought it for $12 during GreenManGaming's winter sale, and got $6 cash back.
Look, if you like consoles, more power to you, go play your consoles. But your hysterical "PCs are dying/you're all suckers" shit is misguided and insulting, so please, go fuck right off.
Warrior247
January 26, 2013 at 10:38pm
Around DMC? What is funny is that after hearing "constant" console bashing, constant complaints about old hardware, can't be upgraded, inferior graphics, blah blah blah. NOW, I'm hearing excuses. The "current model Xbox 360", "DMC is a bad choice" ect. Why? Why does it matter if the "PC" is suppose to be all powerful... or is it all just hype? You people forget, I "have" a PC, I built the damn thing too. I refuse to upgrade it again as it is a total waste of money to do so.
http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/03/22/crysis-2-cross-platform-comparison-montage
http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/10/06/rage-platform-comparison-video
http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/09/20/borderlands-2-graphic-comparison-ps3-vs-360-vs-pc
It doesn't matter what "bundle" you choose, it STILL comes out cheaper than a gaming PC, PERIOD!! Then when you look at the results of what your getting by spending $600-$5000 on a PC or upwards of $800 on the GPU alone, what are you getting? Don't bring up homework and crap like that. Buy an office program or a cheap PC and a console with money left over. Spending $3000 to "game" is insane, it's stupid! As far as WoW, and Diablo are concerned, Both games were slated at on point to come to consoles, but that is now not happening for whatever reasons. There is nothing about the 360 that "can't" run the games.
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/03/03/wow-360-aint-gonna-happen-says-blizzard/
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/05/14/diablo-iii-console-versions-fate-undecided
Listen, quit acting like all PC games cost $1 okay. It's a tired @$$ lie and it's old. The platform get games late or not at all. You can't get any money for em either. Download is about it for the PC as retail has failed and stores want their shelf space back. Look, I like gaming, I don't care what platform it's on. But like I said before, I'm NOT a PC FANTARD and you are. But when dealing with fantards, I've heard this same story before. The console sucks, the console sucks, the console sucks, until you show a comparison shot and all of a sudden it doesn't suck so bad. Then you get the excuses, the attacks, and the hypocrisy. The only hysteria is coming from the tards attacking the post. There is no need to be hysterical when you're right. I never called you a sucker. I don't have to because I know (and you know) you damn well feel like one. Especially after seeing what 8yr old console hardware looks like compared to it's latest upgraded PC counterpart. So you can take your own advice and suck right on off. Hurry up too, the fantard posse is waiting on "you"!
HeartBurnKid
January 28, 2013 at 1:29pm
"But like I said before, I'm NOT a PC FANTARD"
No, you're quite obviously a console FANTARD.
And I'm done wasting my breath on you.
davelray
January 28, 2013 at 5:12pm
Only in your own warped little reality, but have at it man, I'm done wasting my time on you as well. Some people are too thickheaded and deserve what happens to them.
Warrior247
January 28, 2013 at 11:20pm
You're exactly right. After looking those videos comparisons you soon realize that a fool and his money were soon parted.
davelray
January 27, 2013 at 12:54pm
The problem is, all the hysterics are coming from you. PC's aren't going anywhere, and your suggestion that they are because of console gaming are laughable. As I said earlier, consoles are great for what they are. I'm using one right now to stream Doctor Who on Netflix. But when I'm ready to to play a game, I'll probably head over to my self built custom PC to play some Diablo 3, or maybe the open beta of Path of Exile. I can't do that on a console right now, can I? Doesn't matter if the console "could" play them. The fact remains the games I like to play simply aren't available. I'm glad you enjoy your console and whatever games you choose to play. But you are the one that came to a PC enthusiast site and started this crap up. And over an article that has nothing to do with console gaming or PC gaming. That makes you the tard and troll in my opinion. So kindly take your trolling else where. And btw, the PC used in your links is hardly the best PC for gaming there is. But then I don't expect someone that knows little about the hardware to understand that. Of course it just proves all the more you don't know jack.
Warrior247
January 27, 2013 at 7:12pm
I never said PCs were going anywhere because of consoles. If I did then pull the quote were I said it!! What I said was, PC games were going scratchoff card (Best Buy) and download only (Gamestop). The PC games on display were old and the selection was pathetic (all stores). It does matter if the console can/cannot play those games, because THAT was the hysterical, misguided accusation. The real reason is that M$ WILL NOT allow Blizzard or anybody else the control that they need within XboxLive. Plus PC gamers got all upset and begged Blizzard not to release Diablo III onto the console. The game isn't all that great anyway. It had the usual horrible PC game launch filled with serious technical issues and broken gameplay, keep it. Don't give me this PC enthusiast site $h!t either. This site reports on console news as well, and takes their shots at the console. Tablets, phones and other technology gets it's time too. The PC used in my example was a pre-built PC by a company who's forgotten more about building PCs than you ever knew. It was only put there to represent price not power. It wouldn't have mattered anyway, as it wouldn't have looked any different, just cost more! Btw, do "you" have a MaximumPC? I'll answer that one for you...NOPE!! So you can STFU about that. When you get one THEN you can call yourself an "enthusiast". Until then you're just another PC fantard playing video games and using a PC to do it.
davelray
January 27, 2013 at 7:41pm
Stop man just stop. You are just digging yourself deeper. If you keep up at this pace you might pop out in China and see up close a few of the other companies that make motherboards out there.
davelray
January 25, 2013 at 6:20am
Let's face it, your a console fanboy or a troll or both. We don't care what you have to say anymore Warrior. Because what you have to say is delusional at best. We've proven you wrong at every step. And btw, I happened to be in Wal-Mart yesterday picking up some stuff and glanced over at their gaming section. On the shelf, boxed retail copies of several games. Diablo 3, World of Warcraft MoP expansion and battle chest. Diablo Battlechest, guess that's still selling well considering how old it is. Also had Sims 3, Witcher 2, Battlefield and Call of Duty current releases, and several more. So, again, your wrong. Not to mention what Best Buy has to sell, or Target. I'm sure they both have a modest selection of current titles. The reason they don't stock the shelves full is because of the availability online via Steam, Origin, and direct from the publisher's website. It's time you got over yourself. And no, it does not look identical between even a 600 dollar gaming PC and the "current" model Xbox 360 which your video link clearly points out. And being there in person, it would look even less identical. As for what experiences consolers can't get that we PC gamers can get? Well, let's take a look at the best of them. Are there any console games out that I can go on a 25 man raid in World of Warcraft on? Nope. How about an operation in Star Wars: The Old Republic? No again. Online multiplayer on the PC is still above and beyond what you can experience on the console. Can you console stream Netflix in one window while playing Diablo 3 in the other? Or surf the web on even yet another window or monitor? Nope, that's right, consoles don't support multi-display output. How about the fact that some gamers don't like the controllers for consoles. I myself far prefer my keyboard and mouse. Hooking a keyboard and mouse up to your console can be a pain and few games on consoles, if any, support them. How about the fact that NONE of the games I like to play are even available on any console? SWTOR, WoW, Diablo 3, Torchlight 1 and 2, EQ2, RIFT, TERA, and Diablo 2. And that's just the few games I have installed and play currently on my PC. The only game I've ever actually played on my console was Fable 2 and that's cause it was bundled with it. The only reason I have a XBox 360 is because my son wanted it. I got it a little over three years ago. The only thing he plays on it is Plants vs. Zombies and Banjo and Kazooie. The rest of the time he's watching Netflix on it. And for the past year his choice has been the small gaming computer I built for him playing all sorts of PC games. As for the two games you mentioned, Resident Evil and Devil May Cry, guess what? They were and always have been console games. Same as Metal Gear. So they've been optimized for a specific platform with specific hardware, and then polished up. A lot of the reason why PC games take a long time, sometimes more than 5 years, to release, is because the amount of work that goes into making them compatible with a multitude of hardware, playable at several resolutions, and in some cases, more than one operating system. There's a heck of a lot more work involved. But when they come out, more often than not, they look good and they play good. So, to sum it all up, shoo fly shoo! This is a PC enthusiast site. So you are either an ignorant troll with nothing better to do, in which case, please go crawl away back to your hole, there's enough of your kind here, or, you are a console enthusiast/fanboy who's not going to bother listening to what anyone else has to say anyway, in which case, go to the websites that are designed for console enthusiasts and post and rant etc with the rest of your console fanboys. Be where you belong!
steven4570
January 23, 2013 at 12:32pm
The higher end machine you build, the more you save. While it may be true if you try to build a 600 dollar system, the savings will be minimal vs buying one. How ever spend 1600 and over and youll save several hundred bucks. The machine i built 4 years ago would've cost about 2700 bought retail...built it for just under 2000. the only upgrading ive done is put in a higher capacity SSD. So that upgrade garbage is false. Where are you getting your information "eff pc's monthly"?
steven4570
January 23, 2013 at 12:43pm
take in mind, this is a 4 year old system.
cooler master haf 932
750w corsair psu
evga x58 motherboard
intel core i7 920
6gb ocz ddr3 1600mhz ram
gtx 295
intel 80gb ssd
wd 1tb black
asus xonar sound card
windows 7 pro
total was around $1970s give or takeupgrades
Ocz vertex 4 ssd
and gtx 680( only because someone offered me a good deal on my 295, i didnt need to upgrade.
Warrior247
January 23, 2013 at 5:24pm
Your GPU is better than mine.
This is EXACTLY why it doesn't pay!
This PC is $655
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Z77_Configurator/
Newegg
Case-Xion 970 Predator $79.99
MOBO-Gigabyte GA-Z77-HD3 $109.00
CPU- Core i5 3570K $229.00
GPU- Radeon 6450 1GB $44.00
RAM- 8 GB (4GBX2) DDR3 1600MHZ Dual Channel Corsair or major brand)
$47.99
PSU- 350W Antec basiq BP 350 $29.00
HDD- 1TB SATA-III 6.0GB/s32mb Cache 7200RPM
$74.99
Mouse-Black Logitech B100 Optical 800 DPI
$15.00Total $628.97
Went as bare bones and cheap as I could and didn't add in KB, monitor, or any taxes (together or if purchased seperately for each item) as that would send you waay over. The 3 yr warranty and lifetime tech support isn't valued in either. Happy RMAing (oh, that costs too). A 360w/kinect is $99.00 and you see no difference in gaming?!! You may even have to dumb down the graphics just to keep the frame rate playable! On top of that you WILL have to upgrade this POS!! Why torture yourself?!!
HeartBurnKid
January 24, 2013 at 4:37pm
A 360 with Kinect is $99... if you commit to paying $15/mo for 2 years. Total cost, $459. Oh, and you only get 4GB of storage, which you'll quickly run out of as your games get patched or you download XBLA games. Better get a hard drive, right? Well, that's another $129 for a whopping 320GB, bringing your total to $588.
Now, tell me again how overpriced your gaming PC is.
Warrior247
January 25, 2013 at 12:39am
You're sure using a whole lot of "ifs" there buddy. "If" doesn't mean a damn thing.
HeartBurnKid
January 25, 2013 at 10:44am
Well, if you don't pay the $15/mo, you can't get your $99 console, so if "if" doesn't mean a damn thing, then neither does your post.
steven4570
January 23, 2013 at 6:29pm
This proves you dont know jack crap about building a pc. you could use amd set up which is cheaper and put more money to the graphics chip...all from newegg
ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 965 quad core
CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600mhz
HIS H787F2G2M Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB
WD 500gb hard drive
coolermaster 550w psu
COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC case
total $634.92
$609.92 after rebatesyou dont only spend 45 bucks on gpu for gaming you stooge...the graphics card is always the priority. that 7870 runs Crysis at 43 fps 1080p...meaning it wont have any trouble with the other games at 1080p
how much more ownage do you want?
Warrior247
January 23, 2013 at 9:35pm
This stupid m*f. This isn't "my" PC you ignorant baboon. This is a cheap "pre-built" gaming PC offered for sale by Cyberpower. The list I posted was a comparison shopping list of the parts that they put in that PC by a well known internet company. So if you don't like the parts, tell "them" about it. I wouldn't buy "that" PC or that AMD POS that you posted as an alternative. The whole point of that was to show that it isn't cost effective to build the thing yourself, and it isn't!! So, how much ownage do YOU want idiot?!!
steven4570
January 23, 2013 at 9:41pm
did i say it was YOUR pc? I don't believe i did you made that up. The whole point was the question is it more cost effective to build your own rather than buy a pc for the same money? the answer is YES the system i configured and built will run circles around that one you posted in gaming, hands down and it was CHEAPER! you know nothing about anything related to this site, your ignorance is astounding and you only come here to troll with stupid flawed arguments that make zero sense, and apparently judging for other comments, I'm not the only one who feels that way...so GTFO. Im done
Warrior247
January 24, 2013 at 9:22am
Well, since you clearly ignored the link that stretched across the post, you incorrectly "assumed" that "I" built that thing. That "I" made that PC up. So yeah, ya did! Then you used that ignorant assumption to attack me for whatever reason. Not only were you wrong, you looked stupid and you were owned. So what you and a few other people here are self admitted, flag waving, stamp on your forehead and lower back, "PC fantards". You hate Apple, hate Consoles, hate Tablets, hate M$, hate smartphones, hate Windows 8, hate any and all games that aren't PC games, ect, ect, ect. Doesn't mean that everybody else is "that" narrow minded or "that" stupid. Nor does it change that fact certain market realities and conditions have the PC and everybody tied to it sucking wind, or that DMC looks damn near identical across ALL platforms regardless of the hardware being used, or the fact that PC games are going the way of the scratchoff card or having to pay for a "code" at the counter. So "you" don't know what you're talking about and not only are you done, you should've never got started.
Warrior247
January 24, 2013 at 11:24pm
Help me sleep at night? Hell, I've been laughing the whole day about it!
Warrior247
January 25, 2013 at 7:39am
I did. After I owned you, I watched you own yourself and it was funny as hell.
steven4570
January 25, 2013 at 9:34am
you got owned from every commenter on here...you are either too stupid and ignorant or the biggest troll ever. either way its annoying.
davelray
January 23, 2013 at 7:40pm
Don't keep feeding him. He's already proven he doesn't know jack. I don't even know why he's here. This MaximumPC not MaximumConsole. None of his points are valid. And if PC gaming were about to die as he apparently wants it to, then why are more and more games coming out for PC? Why is Valve porting Steam over to Linux? Companies that throw good money after a "dying platform," as he seems to think the PC is, don't last long. I've seen some of the other comments he's made in other posts, all lauding the console as the best thing since sliced bread. We read MaximumPC because we are PC enthusiasts. Whether it's games, productivity applications, graphics and rendering, database applications etc. etc. etc. Its the PC that can do it all. All a console can do is sit near the TV and serve as a source of entertainment. And that's all it was designed to do. As for that, I know a lot of people that opt to have a PC hooked up to their TV instead of a console. Just because it can do more than just play games.
beta212
January 23, 2013 at 4:48pm
Holy %@#!, I think your rig is quite possibly faster than my current computer, I've used mine for nearly 3 years now and it wasn't cutting edge than. I'm going to wait until ddr4 to come out then jump ship.
steven4570
January 23, 2013 at 4:55pm
thats my plan as well...it's plenty fast and I want to wait till DDR4 ram becomes available and then do a new build to stay on top of things.
slibinz
January 23, 2013 at 12:04pm
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What a load of garbage. Someone needs to check Warrior247's bank account to see how much money Sony has transferred into it.
I'm not going to go into the financial and technical reasons why this is bullshit, because other people have already beat me to that. I will say this. Do you know why there's a thriving woodworking/furniture making/home DIY market out there? Even though you've been able to go to the hardware/furniture store for hundreds of years now? Because buying a PS3 is as self-satisfying as buying a toaster. I take pride in the fact that I built my PC myself, and I thank MaximumPC for helping me do it.
Electrik
January 23, 2013 at 10:53am
You're not serious. I've built two machines in just the last year, and they still cost 60% of a new machine. I built my main rig for $2200, and I saw the exact same specs on a boutique machine for $3500.
Yes extremely few people build, but if perhaps we could convince Gigabyte and Asus to start an advertising campaign, everybody could become system builders. People do not build because they have never been exposed to DIY systems. I think it would be an incredible trend.
Unfortunately, most people are extremely low-tech users, holding onto their phones like grim death while checking Facebook every fifteen minutes to see if their imaginary “friends” care about them anymore.
Warrior247
January 23, 2013 at 12:25pm
"I built my main rig for $2200, and I saw the exact same specs on a boutique machine for $3500."
A 60% saving huh? I don't believe you. Post your parts and where you brought them. Now I'm not saying that someone DIDN'T charge that amount as anybody can charge what they want. But just post your parts.
Electrik
January 23, 2013 at 3:52pm
Go to http://www.digitalstormonline.com/compblackops.asp to see something similar to my rig. Digital Storm has it at $5000. Their case is higher end, and they have two video cards where I have one. I have 32G of 1866 RAM and two RAIDed SSD's where they have 16G of 1600 RAM and one SSD. I have two Crucial Pro's in RAID.
I also have more HDD's and six expensive Noctua fans, an H100 corsair where they have complete water cooling, but I fail to see the $2800 price difference.
I would guess an extra $1200 would get me that exact rig, for a total of $3400. That's about 68% cheaper. My bad, I said 60%, sorry.
USraging
January 23, 2013 at 9:21am
One of the big points you miss on is that console games are developed on the PC. Also i cant remember the last time i bought a pre-built pc. I have looked several times and to get everything i want in my pc pre-built normally runs me $2,000 more than if i just build it myself. And i doubt that your xbox 360 or ps3 can even come close to rendering what my evga gtx 690 can. One of the highlights is i get fast performance gaming and when im done gaming i have multi monitor support to get my work done more effectively. At this time the only thing holding back gaming on the PC is the console market with their 5-7year old hardware. so who is really behind in times?
MarioJP
January 23, 2013 at 1:57pm
yet those pc's you speak of are actually workstation using specialized cards that cost 1k. Known as Workstation cards. All the testing is probably done on consoles otherwise you would of seen "Leaked" code. Those PC's is nothing but a tool to them. Making games on the PC does not translate being run on the PC. Probably cheaper than what Sony has that proprietary Dev kits that was in the past. But again, Those Dev kits is something Sony will do. Sony is just a odd company.
But as the next gen consoles come out. Using PC's or Macs than proprietary kits is a lot cheaper and makes sense. I've seen behind the scenes of how games are made i've believe to see a Mac being used. So whether games are being made on computers or not does not really matter to PC gamers. You will never see games like Metal Gear be on PC ever again.
LatiosXT
January 23, 2013 at 9:09am
Someone hasn't heard of Steam, with their semiannual sales that even AAA games get 25% off. I rarely buy anything for full price these days, and console games rarely get a price drop as fast as PC titles do.
And DmC is probably a bad choice of game to do a comparison. Why not Crysis? Battlefield 3? You know, something that was actually built with PCs in mind?
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