Intel Debuts Industry's First 20nm Solid State Drive Family, 335 Series

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warptek2010

"20nm IMFT NAND uses a new planar cell structure"

Why do we fucking care???? It was at times annoying to hear techno babble on TNG, it is even more annoying coming from Intel.

"Intel SSD 335 uses Hi-K/metal gate planar cell technology, which overcomes NAND process scaling constraints to deliver the smallest-area NAND cell and die in the industry," said Rob Crooke

A real crook working for the biggest crooks. Again, Mr."Crooke" if that is your real name, why do we fucking care???? There are faster SSD drives and just as reliable as yours for I bet a lot less money.

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unityole

why would you even compare 830 with 330? its like twice as fast. why not compare 830 with the fastest sandforce drives? which its only about half as fast, so is that really how you compare intel and samsung??

theres also chipset/driver/power tweaks/firmware that limits SSD's performance. how old is your laptop and what kind of driver and chipset are you using?

seriously, get a grip dude, its like comparing OCZ solid 3 with plextor M3Pro, not even a fair comparison.

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unityole

be more patient and wait for Intel 525, chances are it'll be fast.

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big_montana

Thanks Intel but no thanks. Considering that your previous gen SSD's were slow performers, and you still use the troublesome Sandforce controller I guess I will be purchasing a Samsung SSD this time around. Intel really needs to step up their game as the performance on their SSD drives leave a lot to be desired.

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austin43

Agreed. The Samsung 840 pro seems to be the one to beat right now, although this drive is priced at a considerably lower rate. Even the standard 840 is probably better, and it's around $200 for 240GB.

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unityole

it's sad if you think 840 is better, more like you're getting ripped off by samsung? TLC drives with it's mcuh lowered performance and much higher failure rate than MLC and Samsung is charging you the same amount with a much cheaper NAND when compared to 830? you're fooling yourself into buying a crappy product.

people going from 830 to TLC 840 is actually down grading, from a write cycle of possibly 5k/3k to 1k.. why would you want that?

Also, sandforce is fast. if you have any idea at all why such a big and successful company like INTEL, would use sandforce and chose to use sandforce for their new line of SSD, then you would have guessed why.

I ain't saying 840 pro isnt good, it hasnt even come out yet. A CDM bench test from SSDReview on an empty drive doesn't mean sh*t tbh.

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big_montana

Sorry but you know not what you speak of when commenting on the 840. I have three evaluation desktops 2 of which have the Samsung 840 and 1 with an Intel, and the 840 smokes the Intel by a 3 to 1 margin in performance. There are reviews and benchmarks for the 840 already as the 840 has a much improved controller over the 830. Sandforce is not a reliable controller, and every SSD that I have seen fail has had a Sandforce controller. Samsung drives are more reliable and last longer than any Sandforce equipped drives. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6328/samsung-ssd-840-pro-256gb-review

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iampoosola1

unfortunately I have to agree with unityole. He states clearly drives were tested while empty. imho you can't decide on bench results of an empty drive. Also, you are comparing 840 TLC drive to a 520 SSD? you simply stating 840 to Intel, and there are tons of Intel SSDs out there, some SATAII some SATAIII.

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big_montana

My testing was not conducted with benchmarks but real world testing. I installed my image to each one of these computer and conducted testing that involved boot time to Windows in a useable state from powered off, time to open Word, Excel and other core applications, Time ti took to open a 250 page Word document make edits and save, time it took to open a 1,000 page Excel spreadsheet make edits and save. I also gave these units to my pilot team to test and use in real world activities and had them track everything. The units with the Samsung drives were considerably faster than those with the Intel drives. My pilot group right now consists of 15 people all performing different tasks across 4 departments. So, I will trust my testing to be more accurate over artificial benchmarks any-day.

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unityole

so again, you did not mention what kind of solid state drives. I could easily say my samsung loses to my intel and I was using 810 compared to 520, which is a sata 3gbps compared to 6gbps.

also, samsung 830 has lower latency, and what you did most was reading. why not try writing files to it nonstop and wait till your DRAM fills up? and check to see your drive goes down to 100 mb/sec instead of 300-400mb/s? imo what you tested isn't your so called "real world" cause you'll never open 1000 documents or pages or w/e you may want to call it, or believe in.

getting a 840 TLC will not change fact that you're ripping yourself off and lied to by samsung from upgrading from a 830, true fact.

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big_montana

We currently have Intel 330 and Samsung 830's in our laptops. The desktop reviews models I already mentioned what is in those but I will state it again, Intel 335 and Samsung 840. If you read my post we did a lot of write testing as well, not just reads, as the department I have performing most of the testing is our IP group (intellectual property) as they have the largest documents, and create the most documents. The Intel drives in our laptops have had the higher failure rate as well, over 40 to date and the laptop shave only been on the floor since March. Samsung failure rate? ZERO! This is out of 397 laptops by the way.

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