Intel Core i5 and New Core i7 Chips Spotted in Retail Channels

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sparkey247

that and i never mentioned amd to begin with!!! this is an article about intel NOT amd

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sparkey247

thats the thing not all am3 are backwards compatable, for instance take the P2 965 some mobos (a couple) don't support a 140watt proc.

 and intel used socket 775 back in the day of the pentium 4 days back then amd went from socket 939 to socket 940 then it seemed like they went back to socket 939 then eventually went to am2, all along the way through the core 2 quads intel was using 775 and now they finally changed up the socket and then amd went to am2+ then to am3.

i did not say that amd did not have a good upgrade path they do!

as far as buying a new mobo, reuse the videocard, hdd's, yadda yadda and ram well it so freakin cheap it does not matter weather you go with dd3 or ddr2 the difference in price fo 2 gigs of 1066 weather it be dd2 or 3 is about 5 bucks.

 

 

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Caboose

 touche

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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GMoney86

Just to clarify, the new processors are based on the current Nehalem Core i7 and Xeon processors, but they now have the X58 chipset integrated into the processor.  At this moment, these Lynnfield processors are still 45nm and only support dual channel DD3, but that will, of course, change over time.  It is safe to say that from here out, IO chipsets will be integrated into the processors (perhaps even the south bridge will get integrated, too).

 

P.S. The statement should read: Core i5 750 (2.6GHz, 8MB L3 cache) is selling for about $206. The Core i7 860 (2.8Ghz, 8MB L3 cache) comes to about $303, and the Core i7 870 (2.93GHz, 8MB L3 cache) is selling for around $575, the sources said. 

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johnny3144

"the new processors are based on the current Nehalem Core i7 and Xeon
processors, but they now have the X58 chipset integrated into the
processor"

 WHHHHHAAAAAAATTT???? that can't be right.... doesn't sound right.... too good to be ture...

 or did i misunderstood... having the entire northbridge chipset in the CPU alone is somewhat.... unbelieveble for me

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Baer

So the i5 is basically a competitor to the lower performing and priced AMD chips and the i7 900 series is still king. It looks like the i7920 is still the best value on the market with it's huge poverclocking headroom and reasonable price.

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FRAGaLOT

ok so wait a minute.  i5 is a NEW intel CPU but it's slower than the existing i7's, or is it just a rebranding of an existing CPU line, like Core Duos being named i3?   What about i6?   What about Quad Core Duos?

Someone has a list where it breaks it all down?  now i gotta learn this crap all over again.  maybe also include a AMD CPU list to compare by, and also see what AMD has they consider competes/performs the same with an intel chip model.

So a list that has:

CPU name, model number, L1/L2/L3 sizes, Frequences, and socket type, and supported chipsets.
e.g(i7, i5)       (750, 860)     (2m/4m/8m)      (2.8ghz)      (775, 1156)           (P55,P45)

next to that AMD's compareable chip.

Id' also love to see a simular list for small cpus, like ARM cpus, intel's Atom, and nvidias new cpu (forget it's name)

 

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MrBlonde81

This site lists the intel Core i3, i5, and i7 lines
http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=19709&page=1

I think there is a restriciton on anyone that has/had a new CPU from releasing performance numbers untill a certain date.

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sparkey247

its easier than breathing, i3 (core line) is low end, i5 is mid grade (1156 socket and i7 with moniker less than 900) and i7 (900 and up) is top end whats so hard about that? honestly, hell even the sockets follow order too 775 is low end and will be phased out 1156 is mid grade and 1366 is high end.

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Caboose

 Breathing is an involuntary action. Same with blinking... I'd say thought process, but there are those in this world that seem to be unable to think, no matter how easy it is. But that's beside the point.

With an AMD platform, lets say you go with an AM2+ motherboard. You can start off on a low end Athlon 64 x2 e###. Then when you're ready, you can upgrade to a Phenom II x2... Then should the time come, drop a high end Phenom II x4. Either AM2 or AM3 flavour. Both will work just fine. All the while, keeping the same motherboard, RAM, HDD, video card, etc. AMD designed the AM3 CPU to be backwards compatible with the AM2+ platform for those individuals that want to go that route.

With the Intel platform as you just described, if you start off on a mid-range platform and want to move on to the high-end, you're looking at a whole new motherboard, CPU and possibly RAM. I'd have to say that "Team AMD" has the consumer in mind a little more than "Team Intel" when it comes to upgrade paths. Call me an AMD fanboy all you want, but in the end, it's the truth and anyone that uses the argument "well, you're an AMD fanboy. Neep! Neep! Noop!" is just afraid to admit that AMD has a better upgrade path than Intel...

Heck, if there's an AM3 CPU out now that you REALLY want (or one that's on sale), you can get it, drop it in to your AM2+ motherboard (with as little as a BIOS update), and you're set until the motherboard you've got your eye out comes along.

 I personally don't understand why Intel has to keep changing thesocket with every CPU that they release... I miss the days of Socket7 and Super Socket7... 2 brands of CPU, 1 socket. Was nice!

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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johnny3144

will the socket 1156-based Core i7 feature triple channel? or is it dual channel like the i5?

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schmitty6633

Boy, AMD sure is alot easier to understand that intel. All you will buy with AMD is an Am2+ or an AM3 cpu: either phenomIIx4, x2 or just original phenom. Intel on the other hand has like 4 differnest sockets, core i5 core i7 core2 duo core2 quad, extreme versions, and so many names for it all.

Haha

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dag1992

Until i7 arrived with 1366, Intel had only one socket for desktops on the market, LGA 775.

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johnny3144

core 2 duo is actually core i3 now.

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MenoRikey

If you were going to build a PC from scratch, would you wait for the i5's?  This computer would, at most, be used to play the more intensive games (Crysis, Borderlands, etc.).

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dag1992

Id go with i7 even though cpu doesn't affect games nearly as much as the gpu.  Crysis is notorious for sucking the life out of both the cpu and gpu, not sure if i5 would bottleneck on you.

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sasquatch42

Ph2 550 doesn't bottleneck me

and i5 is bound to be faster than a dual core Phenom

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dag1992

I'd think so.  I think you'll have to go all the way back to single cores or the early dual cores to bottleneck nowadays.

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bingojubes

too much branding going on by Intel it seems like. now i don't know which is which, and if my 920 is up to snnuff anymore.

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