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In the Belly of the Beast: Maximum PC @ Apple's New Product Announcement

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That's right. I'm at Apple's campus to see the new MacBooks and whatever else that Apple's going to roll out today. We'll be casually liveblogging and stealing images from our sister site, MacLife. We'll be counterprogramming, looking at things from a more hardware focused end, while MacLife will corner the market on news from the Mac fan perspective. Read on for more info and refresh frequently, we'll be updating til the end of the event. (Protip: Logged in users see updates as they happen, while folks who don't log in only see updates every ten minutes or so.)

11:00 - It looks like that's it. There's a hands on area outside, so I'll take some shots and report back in when I'm back at the office. 

10:55 - They're doing a Q&A, with caveats, of course. They can't answer questions about current quarter or the SEC will yell at them. 110/70 is Steve's blood pressure. He's not answering health questions, and won't answer questions about the global financial meltdown.

Q1 - Can you talk about the relationship with Nvidia? Do you have first dibs?
Steve - They don't have an exclusive relationship, but they're going to be first to market.

Q2 - Blu-ray, Display Port ?
Apple - Display Port has big advantages due to the resolution limitations of HDMI. "Blu-ray is a bag of hurt" The licensing is complex that they're waiting until there's a reason to burden their consumers with it. Also iTunes is a nice solution for HD movies.

Q3 - Matte finishes on MacBooks?
Apple - No need, the vast majority of users are using glossy option, so no need to do matte anymore.

10:50 - Showing us a video of something. What is it? Jony Ive is back on screen. The edges are pretty amazing when they carve the thing from aluminum. I can't wait to get a little hands on time with it. I'm kind of surprised that they don't have a titanium upgrade for the MBP and Air. What's the little square barcode on the back of the inside? Must investigate further. This video, as Robbie @ Mac|Life says is "nerd porn".

10:45 - New MacBook Pro cost $1999. New MacBook costs $1299. I wonder if this will have 500MB of video memory that will make it Photoshop CS4 friendly? 2.0GHz Core2Duo, 2GB of DDR3, and 160GB drive. $1599 model is a bigger hard drive, a backlit keyboard a little more clock, and 4GB of memory. These are shipping today and are in stores tomorrow. Amazed that they're not going to roll out a sub-$1000 portable.

10:41 - MacBook is reduced price to $999. It's the most popular MacBook ever. The top three things they like on their MacBooks are metal enclosure, faster graphics, and LED backlit display. The MacBook line is getting these three things, on top of the white plastic MacBook. Rather than going under $1000, they're bridging the $1000-$2000 gap. New one is more of a MacBook Pro Lite than a MacBook. It's a 13.3 inch screen with the unibody contruction, GeForce 9400M, and LED backlit screen. Old plastic MacBook's must use the Intel graphics still. He keeps talking about the new gestures as if they won't work on current Macs... Is Apple really not going to enable these for old Macs with multi-touch?

10:40 - Oops, just lost my MacBook Air updates to a keyboard shortcut. MacBook air is getting bigger hard drive, new GeForce 9400M graphics, and option of 128GB SSD. Plus mini DisplayPort. Not too exciting, but same price. Also a new model that I missed the details on.

New Cinema Display, which is about time. The old one is about 4 years old, right? 24-inch LED backlit display. It has USB, MagSafe port, and mini Display Port. There's a 3 port USB 2.0 hub. Also integrates an iSight camera. $899. That's hella expesnive for a 24-inch panel.

One more thing is the Macbook.

10:35 - They're just as proud of the stuff they left out. They're leaving out toxic chemical, and think they're leading the industry. No arsenic in the glass, no BFRs, no Mercury, no PVC, it's recyclable, and the packaging is 37% smaller. It earned an EPEAT Gold rating. No idea what that means. I wonder if SUVs get them?

Something else is coming now

10:30 - GeForce 9600M GT is in the Macbook pro, along with the integrated chipset. The architecture lets you choose power or performance. The 9400M gives you 5 hours of battery life. The faster part gives you 4 hours of battery. The optical drive is a slot-load SuperDrive. I assume that means no Blu-ray, not that it really matters. Connectors are power, Ethernet, Firewire 800, 2x USB, Mini-Display port, and optical and analog in and out. Battery indicator is on the side too. I wonder if that means the battery isn't replaceable. Mini Display Port is going into everything they make, and supports 30-inch resolutions.

MacBook Pro will have solid state drive, batter and drives are replaceable by opening lid on the bottom. Seems like it might not be field switchable. 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1. 0.95 inches thick. Two models, no 17-inch. The first is $1999, 15-inch display. 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo (3MB cache). 2GB DDR3 memory, 9600GT with 256MB, and 250GB drive. Next model has 2.53GHz CPU, 320GB drive, and 512MB of video memory, and 4GB of RAM.

10:26 - Unibody design means MacBook Pro has half the major structural parts, and is a stronger design. They have the bodies here and are passing them around. Incredibly light, and very thin. No pictures though. Steve was looking at me as I went for my camera.

10:25 - Glass trackpad! The whole trackpad is the button, they're doing multi-button via software, just like the current trackpad. Now they've added four-finger gestures to complement the two and three finger gestures. They're showing the training videos now, to show people how to use the two, three, and four finger gestrures. Four finger gestures seem to be for OS level tasks, like app switching and Expose. New MacBook Pro. Big surprise there :) New MacBook Por is a little tiny bit thinner, with a balck edged screen full glass, LED display. Kind of a hybrid between current MacBook Air and MacBook Pro.

10:20 - New graphics for notebooks. Nvidia is the partner, they're integrating the chipset and graphics in a single part. They've put the chipset and GPU on a single die, the GeForce 9400M maybe? 16 cores, 54Gigaflops of perforamnce (that's a little low). Five times faster graphics fhan the integrated graphics they've been using on the Air and the Macbook. 6x faster than Intel is pretty slow guys. Compared to the 8600M in the MacBook Pro, it's at about 55% of current discrete graphics. This is better than I initially thought.

10:18 - They've been looking for a better way to build a notebook. The new way, "a really signficiant breakthrough" happened during the design of the MacBook Air. It's very thin and light, no way to build a product that's that thin and light using the MacBook Pro architecture. Rather than start with a thin piece of aluminum (that's hard to type btw), they discovered that it's stronger and lighter if they start with a thick piece of the Al, then carve the support structure out of it, it's much stronger. It's very recyclable, so there's very little waste during the manufacturing process. Start with 2.5 lbs of Al, end with a .25lb piece of aluminum that's increadibly strong.

10:15 - Steve's back on stage. Talking about notebooks. They really are carving the notebooks out of solid bricks of aluminum. Jony Ive is the Senior VP of Design. He's going to talk about it. Showing how they build the current 15-inch MacBook Pro. The significant challenge is making the thin, light product strong and torsionally rigid. The aluminum enclosure makes a very small contribution to the notebook's overall structure. There's an internal frame, made of magnesium that's die cast, which are assembled into the aluminum bottom case. This is the basis of the strength of the notebook. There's a complex frame welded to the palmrest.


Steve doesn't look too bad... Still skinny, but healthier I think.

10:10 - Just kidding about the McMurdo... Mac's market growth over the last 4 years has outpaced the market. In US Retail, they've gone from single digit sales to 17.6% in US retail. Holy crap, that's amazing since they're only in the mid- to high- end for the retail market. 31.3% of revenue for US retail market. They've surpassed Dell to become the top supplier of education notebooks. 47% of market at a major university. That bodes well for the future.

10:08 - Oh wait, there's a sixth thing. 400k visitors to retail stores every day. They think the retail presence makes people feel better about switching and feel well supported. They opened a store in China and Australia. Also announcing Apple Store McMurdo Base.

10:05 - It's a sad testament to the state of the Windows market that Apple's able to boast about the Mac's compatibility with the rest of the world. Tim Cook says "Bootcamp removes the fear of switching to OS X". 5 reasons Apple thinks they've gained market share are Better Computers, Compatibilty, Vista, better software and Marketing. Apple's thankful that Vista has opened doors for people to consider thinking about the Mac. Apple's been the beneficiary.

10:00 Steve just came on stage, and quickly introduced Tim Cook to talk about the state of the Mac. 2x-3x growth, and he's saying their computers are better than anything else on the market. The stuff he's talking about now makes me almost certain that they're releasing a mass market SKU to hit the $500-$1000 market.

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avatarI Agree!

I fully agree with Will Smith on this issue. About three years ago, I had subscriptions to both Maximum PC and PC World. Today, the only magazine I will read concerning computers is MPC. Was I distraught to see Macbooks soundly beating the other laptops in a fair competition? Yes, but I've always known that Macs are better for certain things such as video editing and graphic design while Windows-based PCs are better at others such as gaming. While I am by no means a Mac lover, I will not stop reading MPC simply because they include a review or story about Macs.

I consider myself reasonably knowledgable and part of the MPC target market. So long as MPC does not start reviewing the kind of non-PC related items that PC World did when I read (or rather flipped through) their magazine and the articles remain PC-based (including Macs), then I will continue to subscribe.

Cheers, Will and MPC, for a job well done. 

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avatarquestion

I wonder (considering Vista disappointments) what is keeping Apple from releasing their OSX to general PC market.

MPC is my home page

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avatarnice to see

nice to see apple is looking into some details.

I think it would also be nice if they could jump into the netbook market and try to get a cheap laptop out there

 

and Will, no matter what anyone says about apple and maxPC. Keep doing what you do.

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avatarOut with the old

No firewire 400 and no DVI, Apple has a new ecosystem of connectors that make my not so old stuff obsolete. So how soon will third party displayport stuff come out, like HDTVs and receivers?

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avatarinteresting but...

Obviously Apple is doing some cool things. They are certainly creating nice looking and user freiendly products, and have wrapped them up in a bow that has become all the rage in terms of "whats cool".  I think the OS choice is going to become less and less important as more products and services move to the web and become independent of the device and operating system, anyway...

This report, and the fact that Will Smith is covering it is where I have a complaint.  I am sick of hearing you (Specifically Will, but the general tone of MAX PC as well) complain about Vista and sing the praises of Apple.  You know what?  I subscribe to MaxPC because I like PCs, I like Windows, Even Vista, I build my own PCs, and do everything from Document, photo, video editing to Game playing.  I have no interest in Apple. (although have plenty of exposure to them at my job)

Let the Mac users read MacLife - and Will - why don't you see if there are job opportunities over there while you are at it - you have apparently lost the heart for what this magazine is suppose to be about.

 gw 

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avatarThese are always charming

These are always charming posts. We cover personal computers at Maximum PC. While traditionally that's meant the Wintel hardware, but over the last couple of years, a few things have changed.

First, Apple moved to the x86 platform for their hardware. While there are some differences, a MacBook today has the same basic components as a Dell or HP laptop. Sure, they ship with a different OS, but like a Dell or HP, a Mac can run Windows or Linux too. For all intents and purposes, Apple is just another PC vendor.

The other huge change is that Apple's share of the consumer market (as measured by retail sales) has exploded. They've gone from <5% marketshare in the early 2000s to almost 20% as of today. Since Maximum PC's mandate is to cover consumer PCs, we'd be doing a disservice to our readers if we didn't acknowledge and cover Apple products--just like we do for Dell, HP, Toshiba, and other vendors.

If you don't want to read news about Apple on MaximumPC.com, I don't think I forced you to click the link. There will be 10-20 other non-Apple stories posted on our site today, I promise.

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avatarCharming???

Maybe you should take me seriously.  If I am thinking it, then so are plenty of others.  I have subscribed to Maximum PC from the time it was called Boot, wouldnt you consider me a part of your target market?  Or has that been changing over the last couple of years too?

The fact that Apple is finally gaining some ground in the market place does not change the fact that they are consumer PCs.   How many Mac users are buidling their own rigs?  What exactly is "Maximum" about the Mac?  any of them?  Where is the MAC Dream Machine?  

This is the first I am hearing  you say "we cover personal computers at Maximum PC" - my god, how lame is that? You know, I don't hate macs, or mac users, but the recent  kumbaya apple-tree hugging attitude of my favorite PC magazine is getting old.

If all I wanted to do with my PC is write some documents, get on the web, maybe create some photo albums, would I really care?  No, I wouldnt, but I would probably be reading PC World....or MacLife.

gw 

 

 

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avatarI take all feedback

I take all feedback seriously. For a long time in the first half of this decade, we got a fair number of emails on both sides of the Mac issue, and there was no major outcry after our last notebook roundup in the mag. In fact, I don't recall seeing much if any cranky emails about the Apple coverage in that story.

FWIW, I don't see us doing any coverage of Apple desktop machines, they just down line up with our audience. We will be covering their notebooks though. The vast majority of the world doesn't actually build their own notebooks, afaik.

As for the number of people who are building Macs, I'd suggest you check out http://www.osx86project.org/. If you purchase the right hardware, it's fairly easy to build a machine that will run OS X along with Windows and Linux today.

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avatarMac vs PC

 I never got the whole Mac vs PC thing.  PC stands for Personal Computer.  A Mac IS a personal computer.  In the old days, the PCs were called IBM clones.  These days, Apple has switched out so much hardware that has been almost exclusivley used in "PCs" (CPU, GPU etc), that the only thing that separates them is the OS.  It's nice to see the new designs and MFG proccesses.  It does sound cool.  cant wait to get the details.  Not that I'm in the market for a laptop anytime soon.  Probably never as I have no need for one.  But I'm always interested in Nerd Porn.

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