If You Have Comcast Email, You Could Be A Terrorist

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Biceps

@ Brad - thanks. Keep it coming, the dialog is what counts.

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Shalbatana

What I want to know is why people who think they have all the answers (especially in government and politics) always feel the need to curse at, insult and belittle others in order to get their point across?

A point is better made when it's made intelligently.

Politics always brings out the worst in people. Sad.

(PS. General politics belongs on a political website. Let's agree to talk tech here, okay? If you must talk politics, let's keep it in context of the tech topic at hand.)

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Nimrod

Its funny that weak minded people still think about politics as if it matters. The R and D are two sides of the same coin. They both voted for major spending increases, they have both taken your rights away(Patriot Act Bush and NDAA Obama)they both support the ongoing and increasing police state, they both think its GOOD that that federal gov can kill american citizens with no trial or charge, they both want eugenics and to reduce population, they are both evil criminal scum.

Our current president is in contempt of court as we speak over the very issue of his eligibility for being president, his Food Safety Czar is also the head of Monsanto and writing their own laws into place, the AFT is giving guns to the drug dealers that agree to give a cut of their money to the american banks that launder it, the TSA violates the 4th Amendment every time they give you a pat down and the alternative will give you cancer according to the director of Johns Hopkins University, theres also going to be naked body scanners at the super bowl and pretty soon in every mall in america. It gets worse but your guys brains are obviously far to shrived to comprehend something like aluminum salt and barium oxide chemtrails killing the soil and the fact that Monsanto makes aluminum resistant seeds now. Or maybe the fact that many american nuclear power plant have leaked large amounts of radiation lately and you were never told, but dont worry they raised the safe amount of nuclear exposure after Fukushima.

And you idiots will just keep on clusterfcuking each other about what side is worse until the day your all locked in a prison camp being given forced injections. You know that the wealthy people are fleeing this country NOW like the well off Jews did in Germany before the out brake of war in 1942?

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Nimrod

I forgot to mention that the guy who instituted the naked body scanners after the fake underwear bombing retired from government AND IS NOW THE HEAD OF THE COMPANY THAT MAKES THEM! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA You fools live under so much corruption and yet you have no fucking idea.

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win7fanboi

some people do have a clue. what did you do to change things? I detest that we are losing our liberty and that is why I didn't vote for Obama. Republicans are just as bad.

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Biceps

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/erica-chenoweth-confronting-the-myth-of-the-rational-insurgent-2.html

And that is all I have to say about that.

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SeverianSilk

I completely agree with this assertion. I've always suspected the trolls in WoW trade chat to be up to something diabolical.

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Keith E. Whisman

It's the party that glorified Jane Fonda, why is the Democrat Party still taken seriously?

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Biceps

Keith, why would you still believe that either party stands for anything? You don't actually believe that crap they feed you, do you?

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stradric

Ha, good one, troll. You have to reach 40 years back to knock the Democrats? Wait, let me guess, you're for the party of Gingrich... Ya. 'Nuff said.

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warptek2010

Let me just state this... I'm for the candidate that supports the Constitution of the United States. At this point where we are now in History, Dems lose on Constitutionality issues.

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Carlidan

Hmmm that's funny. Now which party wants to dictate a woman's right to have an abortion? Which party wanted to enact Patriot Act? Which party is trying to limit a person to register to vote because of voter fruad? I could keep going with more examples.

Are democrats saints? Nope. But I have to choose between the two lesser evils. Again as I've stated before, I have NO PROBLEM voting for a republican. Hell if I was living in Utah and Huntsman was still running for governor, I'll vote for him. He's the only sane fucking republican left who was trying to run for president.

OH FYI, there is no fucking RINO. I like how moderate republican's who has diffrent view points but has the same core values are consider RINO's in your eyes. Sigh.

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big_montana

The lesser of an evil is still an evil. Also, Obama and the Dems said they would not renew the Patriot act (he/they did), they are responsible for the largest government bailout of private industry (GM/Chrysler), which party is trying to give illegals the right to vote, free college health care and other benefits that legal citizens do not receive (you guessed it the Dumbacrats). If you want to go back in time, Dems were against freeing the slaves, and also voted against the civil rights act, as it was Republicans that freed salves, and authored and passed the civil rights act. Dems even had a KKK member in Congress until recently (would still be in Congress if he did not die). Are all Repubs saints? No, and not all Dems are evil either (just the ones that call themselves liberals, as those are the ones we need to fear, and yes there are conservative Dems, and liberal Repubs, see McCain and Romney)

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Hey.That_Dude

WOW! You are so retarded. Dem. and Rep. are just names. LOOK AT THE CORE VALUES. Dem. of the early 1900's and before were conservative as hell and acted just like the Rep. of today. Rep. of early 1900's and before were as liberal as they come and voted for things that in their day and age was like giving out free abortions to illegal immigrants while sitting in a circle and singing kumbaiya.

LEARN some F*ing history.

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Nimrod

lol your such a fucking lamb. Its two sides of the same coin you fucking cunt drips. Look at Ron Paul, he was registered Indipendant then ran (R) to look more main stream. BOTH sides attack him as if he were Hitler.

If you think abortion is an issue you need to wake the fuck up. If you think the Patriot Act is a republican thing then your fully retarded. Obama signed the NDAA, it makes the PA look like nothing. Both sides support the same tyranny. The shit like abortion and fag marriage are just distractions and yes they are designed to brake up the family and make the american public more weak. Dont believe me? Dont take my work for it, Aldous Huxley is a good source.

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Carlidan

Ah there are those Nimrodisms. Only way he can commincate is by insulting somebody. Woohoo! I miss em. Ah you should read first Nimrod, never said Democrats were not as bad as republicans. Duh, both parties was complicit in getting Patriot Act enacted. But which party REALLY wanted it. And which party president signed it. Now don't get me wrong, I'm really pissed at Obama for signing the NDAA, and I will criticize him for signing it.

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Biceps

@Carlidan,

I will do more than criticize Obama (Hopey, not Changey) for signing the NDAA. I will vote against him. I also won't vote for Mitt or Newt, or whatever else institution opposition is in place. I will vote for a candidate who truly represents my ideals.

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win7fanboi

If you find one let me know. I have voted till date cause I know they will let me down after they get elected. I know politics is complicated but is it too much to ask MPC to have candidates in Best-Of:)

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win7fanboi

If you find one let me know. I have voted till date cause I know they will let me down after they get elected. I know politics is complicated but is it too much to ask MPC to have candidates in Best-Of:)

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Keith E. Whisman

And the liberal democrats call Republicans fascists? This sounds exactly like the same doctrine that the Nazis encouraged German citizens to do and especially taught HitlerJugend as a requirement of the master race and it's party.

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Carlidan

Hmmmm... let's see what republicans call democrats. Hell, your doing one right now. And didn't your party put a mustache on Obama's face? And it sort of looks like Hmmmmm.... Hitler?

Oh nicknames republican's give to democrats.. communist, socialist, terriosts, marxist, natzis. etc......

P.S. Why do all you extreme right wingers always like talk about Nazi's. Really, it's like a fixation to you guys. It sounds like you're a closet Nazi. NO really it does.

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Deviate

Isn't this just wonderful?

Thanks for voting these corrupt liberal assclowns into office, everyone. Thanks a lot.

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Carlidan

Your welcome. It's better than sending the bible thumping, I want to convert everyone to Christianity conservatives to office.

Ah that made me feel better. Did it make you feel better?

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warptek2010

That is absolutely the stupidest emotion based statement I've heard.

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Carlidan

And Deviate wasn't?

It's was response to another "emotional" based statement.

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Deviate

First off, who said anything about, and what does this have anything to do with religion?

Secondly, based off your response, you're obviously another mindless, kool-aid drinking, imbecile sheep. Who apparently believes the government knows whats best for us and should control every aspect of our lives. Therefore future comments from you will simply enter one ear and promptly exit the other.

Thanks, and have a great day.

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Carlidan

What does it have to do with liberals? Oh that's right, we all know liberals want to destroy America. Opps I forgot that. If you didn't get it, that was sarcrasm.

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Hey.That_Dude

I fail to see any mention of Democrats or Republicans. DoJ and FBI... not Rep. or Sen. or anything else. Both of you are being incredibly ridiculous.

Liberal want to the gov. to control the economy.
Conservatives want the country to control people.
Libertarians want the government to control nothing.
Statists want the government to control everything.

Sounds conservative to me.

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warptek2010

True Conservatives (Not RINOs) want people to make their own choices as long as those choices do not hurt others. So let's get that straight.
Reagans two terms saw unprecedented growth, freedom and opportunity in this country. Why isn't that model being followed today instead of this asinine nanny state, Kensian crap we have?

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dgrmouse

That you would hold Reagan up as a model to follow is silly. Compare our country during his time in office to Clinton's era. We would be in a much better spot today if Florida hadn't fixed elections for Dubya.

http://zzpat.tripod.com/, Reagan vs Clinton by Patrick Ziegler.

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Biceps

@Warptek: Reagan's deregulation led to several problems, most of which we are still dealing with today. His regime started the current trend of the concentration of wealth at the very top percentages of our society.

Re: Keynesian economic models:
(1) if you are going to insult it, learn to spell it. Otherwise it is clear that you just got the term off of Fox News and don't know what it means. Right along with "nanny state" and "Oh Reagan XXX OOO have my children!!"

(2) the conservative replacement to the Keynesian model, 'Trickle Down Theory' is nothing more than a perverted version of Keynesian models, so I don't know why you think it's special - it's just a messed up model invented by rich people to justify them raping you. The difference is that somehow trickle-down gets people to bend over with a smile on their face. Also, Trickle-down theory presumes that the money is going to trickle down FROM somewhere. When all of our goods are produced overseas, the theory falls apart. Do the math.

If you are a typical conservative, you'll either ignore my post, or call me a socialist. I dare you to prove me wrong.

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warptek2010

Wealthy being wealthy and getting more wealthy? Don't give a fuck... They create companies with that wealth. They invest with that wealth. From the lowest busboy to the exotic car and boat makers... wealthy people SPREAD THEIR FUCKING WEALTH! Everyone benefits from it. That is what you would do with wealth, thats what I would do with it. This is America. The government on the other hand sucks up wealth. They kill innovation, they kill the entrepreneur spirit, they crush the American dream when they're supposed to be encouraging it as much as possible.
You see, you believe in this idea of equality where there can never ever be equality. You believe the state is "the all great equalizer". But when the equality of outcome is failure or just barely surviving how is this beneficial in a society?
Keynesian economics (however the crap is spelled)as we can all see with our own senses DOES NOT WORK, It belongs in a college level economics course at best. It is nothing more than another model of collectivism, printing more worthless paper, central planning and a prayer. Good luck with that.
"Trickle down" is rightly called Supply Side economics and as history has shown - works and in spades too. It relies on peoples natural ability to create and be productive, innovate and TAKE RISKS which no one is willing to take right now because of Mr. Mastermind in office doesn't get it and never will. At the end of Reagans 2nd term government revenues more than doubled. It's just too bad he couldn't control Congresses spending habits and that is what people mistakenly blame Reagan for.
Goods coming from over seas you can blame both parties for and not supply side. That has to do with our countries unbalanced trade agreements, corporate tax rates, regulations and other various laws, regulatory agencies etc... Get your facts straight and do your won math.

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dgrmouse

"Wealthy being wealthy and getting more wealthy? Don't give a fuck... They create companies with that wealth. They invest with that wealth. From the lowest busboy to the exotic car and boat makers... wealthy people SPREAD THEIR FUCKING WEALTH! Everyone benefits from it."

Telling you this and encouraging you to keep sight of the American dream are how they keep you poor, son. What wealthy people REALLY do is create zero-employee tax-sheltering LLCs out of state and out of the country. They wait until the government extends something akin to amnesty to repatriate their dollars so that they pay very little in taxes. Meanwhile, the middle class labors on to pay for roads, schools, social security, and every damn thing else.

"At the end of Reagans 2nd term government revenues more than doubled. It's just too bad he couldn't control Congresses spending habits and that is what people mistakenly blame Reagan for."

Actually, at the end of Reagan's second term, federal receipts were at 18.1% of the GDP where he found them at 19.6% in 1981. Reagan's extreme cutting of taxes at the high-end and compulsive military spending are the reason that we're so heavily indebted to the very same middle-easterners that all this anti-terrorism garbage dubiously protects us from.

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Nimrod

You are a perfect example of the two sides of the same shit. Keynesian economic are obviously and without a doubt what has caused the mess were in now. "Trickle Down" is just a buzz word to keep idiots like you from looking up. Just stay in your box and stfu, keep talking about trickle down, you will never acomplish anything.

Austrian Economist Ron Paul said point blank in 2006 that the housing bubble was about to collapse and that fannie may and freddie mac were part of the problem. In fact, he had been saying that since the 1980s. Your Keynesian fuckwads along with Herman Cain told Paul at the time that he was a worry wart :)

But just ignore Paul as usual, after all he was prevented from the 2012 CPAC cause they knew he would win like he did the last two years when they hopeed no one was paying attention, so he therefore MUST not be credible even tho he did predict and warn about the avoidable collapse we suffered and are still in.

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Carlidan

Biceps, he will never EVER think his party is also the culprit of today's economic troubles.

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Biceps

@Hey.That_Dude

About sums it up. You missed Neo-Liberals and Neo-Conservatives though - they are different breeds.

Neo-liberals want to use military (and big brother) might mixed with McCapitalism to spread their control to the entire world. *Cough* Obama *Cough* andhisbankerfriends *Cough*

Neo-conservatives think that they have healing superpowers and should use gov't control to rid the world of gays, jews and anyone else who doesn't fit into a perfect male white box that pretends not to be gay but actually is deep down. *Cough* Koch brothers *Cough*

Sorry to Bogart your almost perfect comment.

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Hey.That_Dude

Yeah, I hadn't considered the new age ones, good catch. And nice telling off of warptech. I live with people that dim so it's nice to see some light every so often.

@Warptech
Hey go study the "Gilded Age" you might learn something about where the "wealth" of this country really came from... a bunch of tyrants who use the industrial age and the general lack of education to retain power and buy congress. But when it comes right down to it. It's someone who plays the broken system to take someone else's patent/idea reap millions/billions give no credit to the original maker and take in a sh!t ton of government subsidies to make a business that would never exist in a truely Laissez Faire, pure capitalist economy.

Which I'm told is what conservatives want...

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Bullwinkle J Moose

What's an Internet?

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ShyLinuxGuy

How did the clueless FBI/DOJ researchers working on this arrive at the conclusion that checking ISP-provided email away from home makes someone a possible terrorist? Well, let's see...I imagine ISP mail-users as those harmless middle-aged-and-above kinds of people who think Internet Explorer is the only browser out there and rely on much younger family members for anything outside of checking their email, reading the news or playing Solitaire. Does anyone think I'm wrong? (Remember, stereotypes are not all-inclusive). So, Grandma got a new laptop for her 65th birthday, and her 12-year-old grandson showed her how to use Wi-Fi so she can take it into Starbucks and not have to use it at home, and then proceeds to check her Comcast-provided email. That's a terrorist? Come on. I would love to see their full, unabridged hypothesis.

Besides, anyone who has a modicum of technological know-how WOULD NOT use ISP-provided email, which is a privacy killer in itself, but maybe use something like Hushmail or even another mail provider + something like Hide My Ass or an offshore VPN to start with. I'm guessing "terrorists" (now open to any interpretation, per the Constitution-voiding NDAA, including but not limited to looking at a government building longer than one minute) would attempt to cover their tracks easier.

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Hey.That_Dude

Please note they said to take down a physical description.

This is just more racism from the government. If my skin where any darker and I dyed by hair black and put in brown colored contacts you don't think the police would detain and question me if someone called in?

But i bet a hundred dollars that no one would look twice at me doing any of that if i got paler, put in blue contacts and dyed my hair blonde.

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WilliamA

So what if a person is in a library? The librarian sees the person accessing their emails and they call the police? Police come to the library and question the person? Really? Remember when the govts. wanted libraries to turn over what people were checking out and reading? I do have some glimmer of hope for humanity that cooler heads will prevail but I am not so sure really.

In 2003 the FBI put out a memo to local police that anyone carrying or seen purchasing an almanac could be considered a potential terrorist. Yeah, an almanac. I guess that would include Poor Richard's almanac too. Facepalm would be the appropriate response.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001825885_almanac30.html

Time to take back our country people.

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ShyLinuxGuy

Most lawmakers who are not 90 years old and have advanced Alzheimer's are from the hippie era. Most have fried their brains out smoking too much of the green stuff in their youth and thus permanently relinquished all hope for proper cognitive activity. In other words, they are still hallucinating after 40-50 years, they think there's a major terrorist threat right here in the country (but not so much outside of), and proceed to tread all over the Constitution, but still have that hallucination. Some pretend to be pro-"War on Drugs" so that they can hide their lifelong hallucination from unsuspecting citizens and DEA agents.

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Biceps

Just curious, but how did you link up Senators smoking too much pot with overly strong gun laws in your head? I am hoping that you are kidding, but have a sinking feeling you may actually be serious.

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angryrocker4

Well what do you expect when people allow their liberty be taken for so called "security", the people let ACTA be signed, they allowed the patriot act through, and no one seems to care still. Worse yet the people are following along with Hitler's "see something, say something" campaign the TSA resurrected.

Jefferson said, "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither..", and we're seeing it play out. Veterans like myself are considered civic threats, the government is pushing drugs and guns to the cartels and then cracks down on legal facilities...the article may have been tongue in cheek but it's not going to be funny much longer.

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win7fanboi

You have my support. Wish there was something we could do. I hate flying now. I detest TSA goons and that fact that you either have to let a stranger touch you or you have to go through the naked scanners. I wonder how many folks are avoiding flying in to the usa for business.

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dgrmouse

Well said, sir.

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Shalbatana

RE: Chipmonkofdoom
(sorry, I thought I hit the reply button)
I believe the article was written with a "tongue-in-cheek" attitude about a serious topic. It's a great writing technique (and indeed a tough one to master) to call attention to a subject while still recognizing the silliness of some of its points when taken out of context.

I like the article.

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zNelson24

I read the flyer, and while it would make sense to turn someone in for blatantly downloading stuff terrorism related (the mentioned Anarchist Cookbook), its absolute rubbish to think you should turn someone in for being concerned about their privacy, doing technical stuff that nerds do, or even communicate through a PC game.

This is why the War on Terror is so full of shit. Last time I checked, terrorists committed acts of violence. Nowadays I can be considered a terrorist, because I know my way around a computer.

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godsdog

"Nowadays I can be considered a terrorist, because I know my way around a computer."

That seems to be the problem, you know to much and that poses a risk to them.

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win7fanboi

"Some of the activities, taken individually, could be innocent and must be examined by law enforcement professionals in a larger context to determine whether there is a basis to investigate."

The senators of this great nation don't have sufficient knowledge about the internet, and they expect the rent-a-cops to use their judgement in deciding if your online activities should put you under suspicion of such a grave charge!

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