IDC: PC Shipments Saw Unprecedented Decline in First Quarter

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LatiosXT

Did Windows Vista cause a massive slump in PC sales? I don't recall that (but then again it's ancient history).

But anyway, I'm also seeing this as a case of "you're worried that you're losing sales in a highly saturated market?". It may rebound in a year or so.

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pixelpopper

I think home built pc's are a lot more popular now. But the average consumer has been taught that PCs are irrelevant, so they are not buying them.

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maxeeemum

It's mainly Windows 8 that is causing the extra big PC decline. True there are other factors but the word is out on the streets now and the general public knows Win8 just plain sucks.

Lenovo is doing good because it is selling Windows 7 PCs or Windowless ones. So what does that tell you!

http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/how-lenovo-kept-pc-sales-strong-while-everyone-else-tanked-216244

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Vano

I know quiet a few people who went shopping for new laptop, just to find out that they all came with Windows 8 at which point they didn't buy any simply because of that.
I bet same thing happens with PCs.

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Renegade Knight

That's just funny. Lenovo has done the best job overall of embracing windows 8 and they are held out as an example even as they gripe about windows 8.

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PCWolf

Windows 8 + Tablet Craze = Declining PC Sales.
It's a no Brainer. Also, the tablet Craze will die down soon. Tablets are fun & Portable, but they will NEVER replace a PC due to their Underpowered Nature. Nobody on earth is going to try to play Call of Duty or Rift on a Underpowered McWeaksauce Tablet.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

LOL. I was sure you guys were going to pretend this didn't happen, as the mass media picked up on it a couple days back.

Windows 8.

Fucking LOL.

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wolfing

All we're seeing is basically people who used their computers only to check their emails and browse (like, most casual users). They can do the same thing with their phones and tablets now.
Another issue is that games used to drive sales of computers, but since big game devs shifted to consoles, and consoles are less powerful than PCs, not many games are making people get a new PC as what was the case some 5+ years ago.

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Games have driven PC sales since there were PCs.

When Microsoft decided Sony wasn't taking over the living room (the horror!), they intentionally undermined the entire PC industry to compete with a fucking kiddie console.

Not only did they undermine the entire industry, they FUCKED their own bread-and-butter product, Microsoft Windows. 'Cause if everyone's buying consoles, they're not buying PCs running Windows to play games.

Cutting off the nose to spite the face.

Now they're trying to get customers on the hook with monthly subscription fees, after finally realizing they can't FORCE customers to buy bad operating system releases. Can't see that coming back to bite Ballmer's fat white ass.

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PCWolf

Your words are wise & true

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praack

Windows 8 is the problem, confusing interface that does not work well unless youhave touch.

but people are mouse keyboard- not touch on thier desktops

on laptops- touch is not really a bit plus it is again a novelty- but not all laptops are touch and the ones that are cost too much.

so the public gets confused and does not purchase, then re-evaluates and buys a tablet to do email and facebook and such.

MS should have put win 8 out as a strict tablet interface - now all it is doing is turning people off from computers

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big_montana

If Windows 8 is the problem, then explain Lenovo's continued success. Over 15 straight quarters now of sales increases, and their sales increase 13% in the US alone, while Apples declined. Wouldn't a Win 8 backlash fuel an Apple sales increase? Lenovo, the only PC company with sales growth, and they sell Windows 8 computers. go figure.

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PCWolf

Windows 8 was released on October 30, 2012, so explain how Windows 8 was driving sales for over 15 straight quarters.

& just because they are selling Windows 8 machines does not make Windows 8 a great success. ME & Vista were horrible & they still sold computers. Also, the confusion that Windows 8 is causing with Windows 8 RT is not adding to it's greatness. In fact, some sites are already reporting that Windows 8 is a Failure. Microsoft's Policy of making PCs, Tablets & Phones all LOOK alike with the same UI has FAILED! Windows 8 RT tablets are being returned in droves (Over 50% return Rate) & Windows 8 phones are doing very poorly. Great Success? I think NOT!

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BlazePC

One company doesn't make a trend.
One company doesn't make a good counterpoint.

Windows 8 might as well be Windows ME.

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jgottberg

Warrior247 - Where are you? This is in your wheelhouse. :)

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AFDozerman

I like this site. At least you all understand what's really going on here. You should see how terribly the iKiddies are treating this news at extremetech.

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Jeffredo

There is no post-PC era. That's like saying there's a post-TV era. Eventually everyone has the hardware and as long as it works and does what they want it to they won't buy another - just like with televisions. PC makes will just have to be content with lower sales that are primarily replacements for dead computers. For myself, I haven't bought a retail PC since 2001. Build my own and you can maintain and upgrade (and pass long to family) one of those for many years.

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Aksparks04

Could we just quit with the "PC shipment decline" news? We all understand that pop culture is enamored with awful tablets and mobile devices. We get it - general use PCs are going the way of the VCR. This is MaxPC though - none of these articles (which seem like daily installments) apply to us.

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PCWolf

Tablets are only good for Web Surfing, Watching Movies on a Plane, & doing lite web surfing. These underpowered devices are NOT good for anything else. They cant edit video or play today's top of the line games. My PC will live on!

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Aksparks04

And this is exactly what I was saying :)

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TommM

I've always been a cutting edge PC builder and upgrader, but even I'm slowing down with new builds and upgrades. The PC I have now will absolutely smoke any software and game out at this time and for the foreseeable future. And I haven't even started overclocking.

Until someone comes out with some uber software package (probably gaming), that requires a significant boost in power, I don't see me doing a new build for at least 3-4 years.

BUT...I do see buying myself a tablet soon. So there ya go - my style fits right into these PC reduction figures.

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big_montana

If you break the numbers down and look at US sales, Lenovo was the only manufacturer to see a sales increase, 13%. Even Apple had a sales decline, 7.5%. Lenovo does sell Windows 8 right, and Apple does not sell Windows at all, so how does IDC explain their respective performance?

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xRadeon

Yeah I just looked at that, really good point...

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DoctorX

i have bought exactly 2 pcs since 1993... 1 was my first pc running win 3.11 which was a piece of shit... and the second was my Asus EEE netbook i bought in 2007. I have built all of mine since. I have worked on about every existing brand of pc in my years. They always use substandard parts somewhere in the build. I spend the money on good parts and most of my boxes still run. I finally retired my athlon 64, not because of it dying, but because it was too weak for what i want to do. most of my build have lives of 10 years or more.

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Alex_2.1

I fix computers for a living, and to me, this decline makes perfect sense. Computers (Processors Specifically) have gotten to the point where we don't need to upgrade as often, think about it! Back in 2004 if your computer was 6 years old, you would be WAY overdue for a new one. But now, my computer is almost 6 years old and I'm rocking a 2.66 GHz Quad-Core with 8GB of ram (a few upgrades but same mobo). The Pentium D is a good example (came out in 2005), an amazing processor that could multitask like nobody's business, while its not that great now, it can still run Windows 7 or 8 like a champ. Computers life-cycles are getting longer, pretty soon we will see PC sales steady out, and eventually even increase in shipments, just no new sales records.

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devastator_2000

So they don't count PC's that have been home built? Then I am setting here with 6 PC's that never counted as far as the stats are concerned.

I also think that PC's are just so powerful now that you dont need a new one as often. My wife is running a AMD Athlon II x4 with 8GB RAM, 250GB HDD and a GeForce 8800. She does not even come close to stressing that computer. In fact she could go another 2 or 3 years on that PC.

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PCWolf

Correct! All 4 Computers I own are Custom Built, not from Dell or anybody else. Seems these are not being counted. Goes to show you that these "Industry Experts" are in fact "Clueless Morons"

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Alex_2.1

EXACTLY!!

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ZX9RDan89

I've asked that question before... Does anyone take into account the parts that we buy separately? Does anyone take into account the home-built systems?

Not that it makes a big difference to me what others buy or don't buy, but...Im just sayin'

My Opinion Doesn't Matter.

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Mikey109105

Of course they've declined! Everyone builds their own computers at home now, LOL!

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