IDC Cuts PC Forecast, Says Users are Content to Use Older Systems

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Hilarity

3930K and Titan in my gaming box. 3570 non K, GTX 650 and 16GB RAM in my office box. Not surprised no one is buying some cheap ass shitbox.

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Asterixx

My laptop is quite sufficient for my daily computing tasks and I feel no need to upgrade frequently anymore. My computing needs for the last decade or so have been met by buying a mid-grade laptop (currently an HP pavilion with an Ivy Bridge Core i5-3210M @ 2.5GHz), using it until it shits the bed (usually determined by the battery no longer holding a charge), then upgrading to a new mid-range laptop. The old laptop usually ends up in the garage for running shop software. Really old hardware ends up being used as a media center (I've got an old dual-core Pentium desktop in the living room and an old Core2 Duo laptop with a broken screen in the master bedroom).

This all kind of jives with the article's statement that most people are content with older hardware. People don't buy new computers just because they're faster now, they buy computers to replace broken computers. New hardware just doesn't bring much to the table anymore

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Philippe Lemay

I was over at my brother's school the other day and I took a peak inside of the computer lab. They're set up with a whole bunch of IBM Think Centers, each with a Sandy Bridge i5-2400 under the hood. It's a 2 year old chip at this point (which makes it woefully outdated to most), but that is OVERKILL for a school PC. And they had enough of those things for every student. I doubt that school will have to upgrade for another 10 years.

It is sad that the PC market seems to be slowing, but I see it as a big plus that almost all across the board (from simple jobs to mainstream to high end) everyone is pretty much fully equipped with more than just "good enough" PCs. Everyone seems to have "very good" PCs.

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bjoswald

I'm still using an "ancient" Core 2 Duo, without any desire to upgrade it. In such a troublesome economy, a lot of people have prioritized life over technology. Other people, like me, just don't care to blow money on a new PC just to browse around, talk to people, look at porn or whatever. Especially since consoles are getting more powerful.

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Granite

I could talk about how I spent $3500 to build a new computer a year and a half ago and how I bought Crysis 3 to test it...even though I don't like shooters. (I get an average of 50 fps at ultra settings on a 1080p monitor)

But the fact is, the article wasn't talking about people like me. It was talking about the common folk who go buy computers at Best Buy. I think the article was right on target.

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yammerpickle2

My overclocked P-2600K and 580 SLI cards have no trouble running everything I play. Haswell just does not offer enough bang for the buck to warrant an upgrade, and none of the current generation of games really needs more power since they are still coded for ancient console tech. When the next gen of got to play game comes that demands more power comes around, and a simple upgrade of the vid cards will not handle it then maybe I will build a new system. Intel and MS are in a large part to blame. The new chips are not a large enough improvement from previous versions, and MS has capped game tech due Xbox 360 so users don’t have to upgrade PCs. Perhaps the need to drive 4k displays and games coded for the next gen consoles will change that but sadly I don’t see that going mainstream in the immediate future.

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Renegade Knight

The gaming desktop I built will need a GPU upgrade when I go to 3 monitors. That's the only upgrade I need. When the Haswell based Surface Pro (or better designed competitor) comes out I'll probably bite.

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someuid

My desktop can drop kick any game, and it is three years old. A simple video card upgrade now and then keeps it fresh.

I don't see this changing any time soon as the new consoles are still pretty underpowered compared to today's mainstream PC gaming systems.

The NUC and BRIX - I would buy those up - but I'm not dropping $100/copy for Windows 7 or 8 for a $300 piece of hardware. Microsoft needs to quite screwing slash the price of their OS by 1/2 to 2/3rds. If a full retail copy of Windows 8 was $20 like OSX, I would have been all over it despite the Modern UI, but not at $100.

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paschal

I upgraded all 5 PC's in the house three or four years ago to Q9300 and Q9400 quads and thought it was Nirvana, then caught a Q3570K with a fairly high end full ATX (multiple USB 3.0, Optical sound, ESATA, HDMI, GIGE, UEFI BIOS, etc.) and added eight gigs of ram at it's low point in fall 2012 for a total almost right at $300. After a few rounds running Handbrake video conversion at way more than double the speed, went back and bought three more, leaving only one Q9400, and moved it to a highly ventilated HTPC case for the living room.

At the same time I agree with article, but the higher power PC's are an enabler for me to use the Android phone as my car music machine by adding a 32 gig card for $20, with a 3.5 cable, and the same for my tablet for making video portable, with a good set of headphones that simulate a good 5.1 output.

If anything is certain to be obsolete, the dedicated MP3 player is just about, if not already history.

For now, I am back in Nirvana, yet who knows in three more years? There was 300 baud, 1200, 2400, 9600, 28.8, 56k, 1.5 meg, now at 12 MBPS, and faster is out there and coming to a home near you.

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misterz100

I agree with this article, I only use my PC but the past year I have done no upgrades nor do I intend to, my Rig is more than capable of maximum preformance in and game out today and probably for thenear future. Hardware keeps moving forward but game tech is grinding down (maps and models already look better than real life sometimes jeez), I think games cannot evolve much more than they have without serious bandwidth upgrades to internet for average gamers to include more things happening on screen.

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everettehouse

+1

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everettehouse

+1

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joeyjr

never mind you eat my post

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TommM

I used to religiously do a complete rebuild once every 2-3 years. But that's coming to an end. Software and especially games are not keeping up with hardware (for which I blame consoles and developers who concentrate on console games with their weak-ass hardware configurations).

I just don't see anything coming down the pike software wise that will require me to upgrade from what I have now - which currently will run any software and play any game on max settings.

The article seems to be spot on.

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PCWolf

I think your dead on. Most Game Houses now program for underpowered Game Consoles, then do Direct to PC Ports (or vice versa) with little or no Graphics Upgrades, just so they don't have to spend any more money on the game so it can take Advantage of more powerful graphics cards in a PC. It truly feels as if Greedy Game Developers & underpowered Game Consoles are holding PC Gaming back.

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everettehouse

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jedisamurai

I've been meaning to buy a new PC for years, but along the way I discovered that by adding an SSD (even without AHCI and in IDE mode) and maxing out the ram and putting in a decent video card, I can run all the games I need to and web surt/do simple editing without shelling out for a new machine.

I was thinking seriously about buying a full machine and giving my wife my old one, but with all the security lockouts Microsoft put on Windows it would such an incredible pain the neck to try to transfer my Win7 installation and 300+ games that I've decided to put it off until this machine actually dies.

Instead I'm getting my wife a Mac Mini for her art projects. Most of what I play is GOG, Steam, or Humble Bunble/Indie/Old games so this ancient quad-core Phenom with 5 gigs of ram will do into the foreseeable future.

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John Pombrio

Gordon, jump in here will you? You going to let Paul trash the PC AGAIN? The "death" of PCs has been predicted so often that I have to laugh.
The PC market is cyclical and random, like all others. There are going to be large dips in sales occasionally and this is one of them.
Right now the market for PCs is saturated by so many PCs having been sold at low ball prices (think LCD TVs last winter). The other reason is that Win8 is just not catching on like MS hoped it would.
Tablets and smartphones are toys compared to a PC, good for on the go but laptops and PCs will always be around when real work or gaming is to be done.

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eastbayrae

Paul rarely posts anything positive about the PC. He needs to go work at TheVerge. He would fit right in there.

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misterz100

The company says that the reason for the slump iinst lack of interest for PCs but that people just don't need to upgrade as much as they used to nowdays and I agree.

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USraging

You are right! When i get tired of miss typing information on my galaxy note 10.1 i move to my desktop to get real work done. When it needs to get done accurately and efficiently nothing beats a pc. Also i like to game more than angry birds:P.

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limitbreaker

Microsoft had just as much to do with slower pc sales as the economy and tablets did combined. Why? How? They kept slimming down Windows further which is a good thing but really doesn't help pc sales. If a laptop sold with Vista will run faster on Windows 7, why upgrade? Windows 8 will run even faster than 7. Perhaps if they used a more resource demanding interface at least as an option things would have been slightly better, in Windows 8 they removed Aero instead.

On the gaming desktop side I guess console ports were the main reason. I don't think there was nearly as many cross platform games back in the previous generations (ps2 and older).

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everettehouse

I had several (many) hard drives and other components from previous desktops and laptops, particularly because for a few years I had been buying HP laptops which were disposable i.e. lasted one year and quit. I finally built my first computer a few years back in an original NZXT Phantom case. Then this year I consolidated that build and almost all of my previous components and hard drives in a Cooler Master Cosmos II case. I don't intend to do another build for the indefinite future. I will just upgrade components on that final comprehensive build for the foreseeable future. What I have built is far better than anything that any of the major computer companies/store chains want to sell me. Actually, it is better than most computers that the boutique builders want to sell me, for that matter. And, rather than build a second computer for my wife and/or children, they use an iPad, when not using our main computer. I agree with the summations of the article.

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praack

i recently went through a slew of upgrades for older machines = only one did i purchase a new processor and that was easy - it was an AMD using an AM3 board.

the others was the normal trifect of memory, video card and/or storage

Some moved from XP to Win 7.

no one wanted 8 , no one wanted a new machine.

some advanced users i had tried 8 out and decided if that was the way microsoft was going then they were going to go mac and complete thier transition. since they already use Ipads and Iphones.

but an economy like ours right now- and no one expects sales to drop? couple that with a messed up OS from Microsoft again? C'MON

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MarioJP

Don't think Windows 8 was the cause of it. In the presence of Windows 7 people were either switch to a Mac or don't need a new PC. I've upgraded my laptop to Windows 8 though but no new hardware and i honestly don't see why people are complaining about Windows 8 I like it and not going back to 7. In any case. The thing is PC's don't act like a proprietary set-top box that always needs to be replaced. Unlike tablets and smartphones. PC's has a lot of horsepower than people will ever use period.

You have to look at the changing Market. I mean look at Xbox One for example with all that media integration. There is now more computing devices like never before than the entire history combined when PC's once dominated. Even imacs sales are down, but their mobile division is the imac lol. This is why PC's sales are down.

People only use their tablets to facebook and simple mindless casual games like angry birds or worst candy crush that people are insisting i should play this very addicting game lmao.

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everettehouse

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wolfing

Nothing new here. To me, tablets are PCs, just like laptops, netbooks or ultrabooks. Just different form factors. I wouldn't include phones as being a 'computing device' is not their primary function, though they are less and less phones (I still use them to actually talk, but lot of people just use them to text)

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Neufeldt2002

Glad to see they are finally getting part of the equation right.

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r3dd4wg

I built a gaming PC for my son in 2007 and one for me in 2009. I have no need to buy a PC off-the-shelf anymore.

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Ledoubleu

Except for my portable computing needs (- wants), I have no need to upgrade my desktop since it plays all current games on high settings.

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everettehouse

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