ICANN Approves .XXX Top Level Domains

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The bigTchaikovsky

Some of you really underestimate the intelligence of children, teenagers to be exact. When I was a teenager and Myspace was all the rage, schools began to block it. And with that, a 15 year old boy was introduced to the world of proxies. Even if some sort of software or hardware option was available, teens are more resourceful than you think, they will find a way to circumvent it. As for the other morality issues, I see porn as something that will never go away, no matter how offended some people are. People like to see other people naked, plain and simple. If that weren't the case, the world would be a much smaller place. And as Steve said, it's a multi-billion dollar industry that advances a lot of new technologies. Lastly, chop_slap, methinks doth protest too much. You might've enjoyed typing out that reply to steve just a little too much.

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bpstone

I believe the internet will always be an open innovative place. Personally I think porn is disgusting. Watching someone strut their stuff or screw another person is nasty. Moving all legit adult content to .xxx would help rid the internet of illegal porn such as rape or child pornography. Another upside is it will further protect youth from being exposed to adult content; which no matter how many times it has happened is not normal. It won't hurt the porn industry at all. It will make their sites easier to find. Adults can still access it if they want. I think it should become mandatory. Controlling who makes .xxx domains in my opinion is smart to avoid illegal content from jumping aboard. We'll probably never completely rid the internet of illegal porn... that's just reality. Doing nothing about it is just dumb.

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Jims45wow

It the domain becomes mandatory, it would hurt the business by making it less sneaky. Those arguing about freedoms have no footing. The subject of concern would still be available, it would merely be labeled in a manner to help avoid its use, by those who choose to do so.
They should actually be happy about it. An entire new list of domains just for them.

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chop_slap

Don't believe me? Google search the following keywords: Tiava crying girls

Then come back here and tell us again that porn is such a cool & wonderfull world achievement.

Captain_Steve, I'm talking to you personally too.

Go there now and look at each of those girls' expressions on their face mixed with the dick inside them. Tell us again that porn is all it is.

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Captain_Steve

When porn is legal (that is, involves consensual adults and no children) it is protected by first amendment free speech (at least here in the states; but more on that in a bit). So whether or not those sites and videos offend you, it is no more wrong than anything else people are allowed to do as adults (and judging by the things people post on the internet, adults do some weird stuff.). The problem with the .xxx domain is that it's finally going to make defining what is porn easy enough for broad regulation.

 

There has already been one attempt to ban porn in regulation across the board, but due to inability to define exactly what it is, there was no way to proceed. We have now created a way to let porn define itself (I don't think Bank of America is going to ask for a .xxx domain). So I could easily see some politician at some level (be it State or National) trying to pass a bill requiring a block of all .xxx sites at an IP level, and to get around the protection of the first amendment, it will become an "opt in" service for IP. So now if you want to see a .xxx domain site (even if it were to be as mild as Playboy) you now need to contact your internet provider and request they allow .xxx domains for you to access. Or, Verizon might decide that .xxx domains are eating up too much bandwith on the mobile network and block them from access completely as a way to "regulate bandwith use." They've done it to torrents for years (despite their legal use, especially among the open source community) so I don't see them batting an eye to doing it for something that most people aren't going to admit they use regularly.

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Neufeldt2002

I'm only going to comment on this post and that is it.

I find it really interesting that the one person who is so offended and wants porn to cease existing, knows the terms to search for and find the most disturbing types of porn available.

Just saying.

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chop_slap

Some people get paid to track & put badies like you away for having your so called "pron" stashes. Watch yourself.

 

Just saying.

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Whitechip

And some people have a stick up their ass and use empty threats on the internet.

 

Good Job.

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chop_slap

A stick up my ass? No, I'm pretty sure that I could feel one there if I did in fact have one installed.

No empty threats here, it is my job to put the likes of filth away and love it. It's as addictive to me as porn is addictive to them. What I had was a recommendation. I'm not quite sure what your comment had to do with anything. I'll let you try that one again. Go.

I've made my point, though. This disgusting shit needs to go. So many of you people defend it. I'm not saying block everything, block the BAD SHIT. How can it be that people can publisize this? WTF?

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ShyLinuxGuy

I highly doubt it's your job to lock pedos away. If it was, you 1) would not be carrying on like this and 2) would probably keep your job description out of your argument. The FBI and etc. hire employees with reasoning skills, something you don't have.First of all, if you're locking pedos away, you're locking other kinds of criminals away (robbers, violencers, Ponzi schemers) and not just pedos. Trust me, I've got quite a few in the family who are in some type of law enforcement or justice system.

It *is* kind of funny that you readily supply names to the filthy stuff yet call BS. You had to have looked at it, you aren't parsing the Google searches in your head, so maybe you're the guy looking at the underage or disgusting filth and is somehow converting the worry of being caught (by your mom, your girlfriend or the FBI) and making others believe you're in the other position, thus comforting YOU while doing it. I am not condemning you with opinion, but I think you have nothing better to do than troll all day. I am in a Psych II class, we were just discussing about guilt not too long ago. Guilty people do it all the time--it's role conversion.

I do agree that the disgusting and underage stuff does need to go too, but it isn't going to happen (do you know how the Internet works? There's no centralization and  control) and I think that you are a troll, as well as everyone else.

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Neufeldt2002

You joined two days ago, and the first posts you make you degrade and threaten people. You know what, I'm glad that you find people that look at disgusting pictures and put them away. If that is what you really do, very easy to say something to make it sound impressive. But so far all you have done in my mind is seem to be trolling now. How this has to do with top level domains I have no idea, The only porn sites that will list in the .xxx domain will be legit legal porn between consenting adults, the filth you are discribing will always be hidden. Go back under your rock unless you want to post constructive posts that have to do with the actual topic.

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ShyLinuxGuy

I am not going to see what you're talking about, but I can pretty much guarantee you its 1)hardcore or 2)actually real and probably a rape scene. 

I'm not saying pr0n is a wonderful achievement. In moderation, it's normal. When you're watching it 24x7 or watching gruesome (gross, "scary", weird) scenes or scenes with kids, animals, whatever--that's when it's sick and twisted.

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ShyLinuxGuy

The .xxx domain can be in theory easily blockable, even at the hardware (router) level, but the site owners themselves are presented this as a choice, not a "gotta, have to". Some aren't going to want to spend the little $60 to register a name, or others will see this as "scandalous" and will keep their .com  TLD just to make a statement.

This does sound like a viable idea, in theory, but because there's probably going to be a lotta excuses and reasons not to migrate from .com to .xxx , the .xxx TLD might me a flop. If this was done much, much earlier, it would definitely have much more success, because the pr0n sites were either just getting started or haven't even began.They should have known, pr0n, like any other media type, uses all available channels of distribution to reach their viewers/readers.

@chop_slap: I kind of see your reasoning, but pretty much, guys from all walks of life watch it. And, this isn't slavery (at least in the US) like your making it sound like. It's an actual job and they still have the option to quit, just like you and me, with no strings attached. They get a paycheck, pay taxes, show up on time, and go home after the day. You might be thinking about the rough and weird stuff that might even be the real thing. If you are bringing into question solely about that, yes, I agree with you: how can someone watch--and enjoy--that? I guess that's people for you.

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jedisamurai

I think TV Tropes said it best when it said to Google anything with filters off and see what happens. The whole idea is rather simple. Nothing is being shut down, it's just being put in a category of its own where it belongs. Imagine if when you went into a book store porn was mixed in with every other category of book, and half the time when you pulled a book out a porn book flew off the shelf  and up into your face. That's EXACTLY what the Internet's "Wild West" is like, and for some reason people take offense to putting all the smut in one corner of the book store of the Internet where it can easily be found for those who want it.

"There goes free speech!" they cry. Where were their tears when porn spam started to be filtered. Was that not free speech? Was that not free expression that deserved the right to fly up in your face, and make your family members ask where you have been and what you have been doing? This stuff will always exist, but those who don't want it shouldn't have to "filter" it. They should have to look for it to find it and this is a step in the right direction.

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turbonugget

word.

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Dashworlds

The introduction of "xxx" will have no effect on Adult Dotcom websites: they will remain unchanged.  There is a possibility that some of the Adult websites may get duplicated as "xxx" (so perhaps people will get to see the same thing twice). 

However, what has changed is the ability for Internet users to create almost any Domain Name and TLD they like.  Sites such as Dashworlds.com provide brand new Dashcom (not Dotcom) domain names.  Dashcoms are addresses in format "business-com", "paris-fashion", "social-network" and of course any "xxx" extension you might desire.  Totally outside the realm and control of ICANN, Internet users can create any domain in any language, instantly and at no cost.   

 With users and members in over 90 countries worldwide, resolution is via an APP; although new ISP Link-Ins are available to make this unnecessary (ISP Link-Ins that are also available to ICANN).

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Stockislander

It's just another step in the direction the internet is heading. Government and other organizations can't stand it when there are untidy, unclassified oceans of data available to just anyone. After all, structure is civilization, ain't it? Some things are best kept locked away and out of sight! It's easy to start with the cultural outriders and "deviants". Who will openly defend them, without incriminating themselves by association? It's all for our best interest, and of course, the children will be saved!

I'd just like to point out that this is the way it always starts. Here's a very minor example. In Florida, wearing seatbelts was originally optional, then, you could get a ticket if you weren't strapped in if you were stopped for another violation, now you can be pulled over if you are perceived to not be wearing one. This gives an officer plenty of leeway to pull over anyone they feel suspicious of. But it's for your own good, so who can argue?

Make no mistake... the Wild West days of the internet are drawing to a close. Some people will rejoice at this, others will be puzzled when they look around and wonder where the exuberance, innovation, and wide-open possibilities have gone. It will have seemed sensible as it happened.

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Stockislander

It's just another step in the direction the internet is heading. Government and other organizations can't stand it when there are untidy, unclassified oceans of data available to just anyone. After all, structure is civilization, ain't it? Some things are best kept locked away and out of sight! It's easy to start with the cultural outriders and "deviants". Who will openly defend them, without incriminating themselves by association? It's all for our best interest, and of course, the children will be saved!

I'd just like to point out that this is the way it always starts. Here's a very minor example. In Florida, wearing seatbelts was originally optional, then, you could get a ticket if you weren't strapped in if you were stopped for another violation, now you can be pulled over if you are perceived to not be wearing one. This gives an officer plenty of leeway to pull over anyone they feel suspicious of. But it's for your own good, so who can argue?

Make no mistake... the Wild West days of the internet are drawing to a close. Some people will rejoice at this, others will be puzzled when they look around and wonder where the exuberance, innovation, and wide-open possibilities have gone. It will have seemed sensible as it happened.

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chop_slap

Porn is for sick people. Go learn to build a relationship instead of watching skin slap whilst hiding from your momma.

When you watch porn, you fully support the people that make money from all those little girls they take advantage of. There are videos any person can download  that clearly depict obviously underaged girls crying  while these "cool" guys "show her a good time". Very well done, gentlemen & continue your support of these fine people. Just make sure you don't let your conscience take control, because you might actually stop watching porn.

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Caboose

And I bet if we were all good little God fearing Christians of one specific denomination like the good Lord intended, we'd never have to worry about such things right?

 

As others have said, there is a healthy way to observe porn, and an unhealthy way. Just like "personal exploriation" of your body is perfectly normal and healthy. My wife and I will watch porn together from time to time and we are perfectly normal humans living perfectly normal lives with our family.

And I really question you, when you know specifics of very depraived and disgusting search results. I've not, nor will I perform your search request. Maybe we should have the FBI investigate a little bit in to your web browsing habits.

You know, unless you're a government agent, a "normal" person searching for that kind of disgusting sick stuff will still get tossed in to jail for ages even if you try and use the excuse "I was only looking for it, to help you shut it down!"

Go crawl back in to the hole you came from you sick pervert!

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Captain_Steve

Actually, porn is the driving force of many of the technological advancements we take for granted.If not for porn, we would most likely be nearly ten years where we are behind in terms of internet speed and adoption. So if you use Netflix, Steam, or any other bandwidth intensive internet service, you can thank porn for making the internet mainstream enough that service providers saw the advantage of spreading their service areas and increasing bandwidth availability.

Same thing with Blu-ray; it won out because the porn industry chose it over DVD; just like it chose VHS over Beta.

If you think internet piracy is damaging computer gaming, then in a few years you can think porn for saving it since the industry says that in a short time they will find a way to end internet piracy.

Porn has a lot of money without a lot of overhead to cover for production, this allows them the ability to try new things and come up with new technologies that many companies can't afford to experiment with. Every frontier needs explorers willing to go forth and take chances without guaranteed returns; and when it comes to technology our explorers are the porn industry.

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chop_slap

VERY good point Captain_Steve, well done.

Now you probably won't mind then, that I go have sex with your mother, post it on "milfs-I-did dot com" and send you a copy. Or maybe your younger sister would be willing to have sex with me, she's probably some fine piece of work too. Rowr. I'll send you the first Bluray. Dummy.

Porn is the driving force for division within the family, addiction, child abuse, desensitization, etc.

To all you boys I want you all do THINK OF ME, a ugly 30 yr old man, when you masturbate to porn next time. Insert this image into your mind: I'm doing your mom and loving it, my mouth is open wide in pleasure and you can see all of her privete parts. Visualize it hard & deep till it slips between your slippery gooey brain lobes. Now tell your mom to go get your sister and have them do it together.

Now make this all okay since by saying it's going to give us technological advancments quicker.

 

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Captain_Steve

But of course; the standard defense of going to extremes to fight an argument; the old saying that "if you love animals so much you should go and have marital relations with a horse" defense. Silly me, walking into that with my defense that good things have come from the porno industry.

While I don't support the porno industry (nor do I shun it and it's multi-billion dollar a year profit), it's hard to declare that everything it does needs to be censored and removed from view. It's all about moderation and the ability to do so fairly and in balance. This is what the problem online is becoming; we keep on the track of "if some restrictions are good, than more can only be better." Unfortunately this isn't the case, it's finding the balance of restrictions that best allows keeping it out of the hands of those that don't want it while not blocking access to those that do.

Like stated earlier; the porn industry turns amazing profits (especially when compared to cost). So obviously there are plenty of people out there willing to spend money on it, and plenty of people willing to accept that money in compensation for acts performed (involving various numbers of girls and cups). So while some mind find it offensive, that doesn't mean it needs to be banned or those who enjoy porn need to be shunned, it just means that no one should be forced to watch parties of lemon or otherwise and those who do enjoy it should be free to do so without having to jump through hoops for it.

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dakforever

Some People Never Learn, It's called escalation it never goes away.

I'm sure that some people would be happy to get rid of the oops I mispelled it and now I'm directed to this xxx site, if that even still happens anymore.

If we are not careful Internet hypocrisy could come of this whole thing.

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Captain_Steve

http://www.amazon.com/Free-Culture-Technology-Control-Creativity/dp/1594200068

 

Oh, we're going to get there one way or another. The old internet is dead; long live internet.

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Pinkyblister

If it did not cost $60 per domain name I just might have gotten me one or two .xxx names just for kicks!

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Captain_Steve

People still go to sites? I thought it all just came from torrents found on 4chan anymore.

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Mizufall

I really don't see the point 15 years olds are still going to watch it this really isn't stopping anyone.

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MrBlueCheese

True, the new Top level domain doesn't have an immediate affect, but it will down the road.

With the right piece of software, it can filter out the .XXX for underage children.

Unless there's a push for all porn and adult entertainment to use the new domain, i don't see it happening anytime soon.

There are some major problems with it, but its a step in a direction (what it is, we'll know soon enough).

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