How Fast Is Windows 7? Faster Than You Think!

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evga760

wait till you people see windows 8...ive been to the the future, it isnt pretty

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industrykiller

Vista is slow.  Even after I freshly installed programs, cleaned up the registry and the disk, and cleaned up the startup programs it still sucks.  Vista should've never been born.  XP is faster than vista and easy for me to edit and maintain because I've been using it for years.  Windows 7 uses the same PLATFORM as Vista, but is not the same OS in any way except that it can be made to look as pretty and uses the same drivers.  Windows 7 RC is faster than both XP and vista, and has given me less problems than both.  I'm waiting for the release, but I won't get my hopes too high, since microsoft seems to be a fan of last minute bloatware.

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preacher1010

" Benchmarks of a pre-release OS are meaningless until MS submits the
final program.  Right now it is 'Windows Lite'. meaning that it has
none of the typical bloat that Windows has become infamous for.  Wait
until they load up as many useless products as they can, and then
benchmark the thing.

Until then, it's just a pretty thing and a waste of time." - Cache

 

So true brudder/missy!  And this article is purposely left one big factor:

 WHAT IS THE MACHINE SPECS THAT YOU USE TO BENCHMARK WITH?!!

 I have said this millions of times in other forums....Vista is dead in the water because gamers abandoned it and DX10. The only reason M$ and Windows is the world's leading OS is because of gamers.

Gamers rule the world! without us, Microsoft is N-U-T-H-I-N-G!!!! NADA!

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Dustn525

I was hesitant to upgrade to Vista like many people....not only for it's reputation after the release, but because I had gotten informative info from locals. I live in Redmond, right down 148th ave from the Microsoft campus. I'm a computer nerd, but I worked at Dennys before and after Vista's release. It's a 24 hour restaurant (if you can call it a restaurant) but anyways, alot of M$ employees come in there at all hours of the night. Including one of my neigbors, who unfortuantely was put on the spot for designing HP drivers (it was Microsoft's fault, not his, so don't ask me who he his. He rocks) for Vista. BTW at that time, they called that several million dollar junk "Longhorn".  He absolutely hated it, Hmm before I start the next paragraph, allow to to mention: this OTHER guy, who is a M$oft employee, who is a regular at that Dennys, in the bar. He constantly wears a M$oft shirt, black, that reads "I'm not a jerk, I run Longhorn."

This guy has been 86'd from there (86's is a term for being kicked out of an hospitality establishment, such as a restaurant or bar) on week terms, countless amounts of times. He wrote code for Vista. Yes, he still works there. He still had the decency to tell me Vista was junk. He, and they guy mentioned above, explained to me that people may think their computer is running slower on Vista than XP because of Vista's added features, but that this was not true. Vista runs slower because the code and software writing is so garbled, taking pieces from previous OS's and so on, that a PC has to read through all the junk to get to useful info.

 Hmm no wonder every OS seems a bit slower. Streamline the damn OS's, oh but no, don't pay more for that, just let your customers suck up the slack by buying new hardware. I stand with the M$oft employees that I've met that hate M$oft....stop trying to make users buy a product that is garbage, to promote buddys who make hardware. Rediculous.

 

 

 

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nekollx

true story

 

We just got our 6 yeear old xp system bakc up and running, a simple driver update resuted in it faling to past the "windows shut down unsucessfully screen" in that time me and my brother shared my Vinta 64 laptop.

 

a week with the xp system dead just because i was updating 6 year old drivers.

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WindowsXP

I dont know about you guys but Im gonna keep quiet to see if the benchmarks really say that 7 will be faster than XP SP3. I got all hyped about Vista...and.. :-/

 

"operating system that will not die" < So true. :D

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jihnn

it's about time i did a new install i can probaly wait till 7 comes out, but i will take a wait and see approach.

it would be a mistake to just jump in like lots did with vista, hahahaha   funny how so many justify their new os by telling you how     it only crashes sometimes     since i got new hardware no problems    sweet i can surf the net no problems

many vista users have the attitude   i own it so it is the best        RIGHT

 

what they all fail to do is give a valid reason to switch some say xp is all messed up with patches, anyone know how many fixes vista has had so far? seems like i have read about lots

there is talk about how vista is more secure i wouldn't know i use xp, i can say that  xp never crashes, is very stable and it WORKS, as far as security i use all the tools i need to keep viruses and malware badguys out.  i like thunderbird and firefox

did i mention games work and they work very well thank you,

 

maybe there will be a compelling reason to change to 7, like say an os that is actually better than xp.

i work hard for my money, to spend it on a pricy os that is less  is just plain dumb to me, there needs to be a value increase, a solid reason to change and go thru the process of making all my apps and eq work  with  a new os

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caseybiggsconnor

i say vista is the best not bcoz i own it... no... i dont say i own one to make everyone envy on it... its not that... have you ever heard of windows mojave? scenario i'll ask you about vista what do you think about it what do heard about it and what do you read about it then i'll present you a PC tellin you its running a new OS a so called windows mojave and i'll let you play with it, i'll let you do whatever you want on it and after i'll ask you whats about it and i'll reveal its actually windows vista... i've been there before tellin everyone vista is not good, xp is more much better, i even made a pdf file of vista's uncompatibility problems in hardwares, apps and games and i send it to all my fellow pears... but look at me now im using it not bcoz i bought it and i'll waste my money if i wont used it... i wont say it is good when it is bad... if vista is bad i can always go back and switch to good old xp... but i havnt... i do a lot of things in the pc designing, video editing, modeling, listening to music, watching video, surffing, chatting, playing games everything that could be done in the pc i do it in the pc... the reason i used vista is the experience... what you can do in good old xp you could do it also in vista but the experience you have in vista you wont experience it on xp... its a whole new experience... what it is? a lot like i wont waste my time looking for new drivers to update my drivers vista will do it for you automatically... a moving desktop background they called it dreamscene (only for windows ultimate)... windows tab its a new great way of using alt tab... some freaky free new games (only for windows ultimate)...  windows sidebar... directx10 for a new look at the textures of your game if it supported it... theres a lot to mention... one more thing xp is not vista but seven is vista... hardware compatibility from vista, layout from vista,  vista taskbar still included as an option with a new taskbar so called superbar... its vista with more new things... so still waiting for good comments about seven final release before jumping into it... so well see to it that your hardware have its vista sp1 driver or else even though it has a good publicity it wont be good...

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wkwilley2

bump

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QUINTIX256

or you are a... <best left unsaid>

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QUINTIX256

and edit your commetns before you post cause it feels jumbled to gether and lengthy, and stuff and, yeh i can bearly stand reading it

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caseybiggsconnor

Im running a fresh installed vista ultimate 64bit SP1 on my pc. What i notice is that it boot too slow it said welcome for a min. So what i did i looked for new 64bit SP1 drivers for my hardwares i installed it after I update vista and after the last reboot i clean the registry and there after a reboot i only see the welcome screen in 2 secs. Then I installed my programs (a lot to mention) and what happen again after a reboot i stared at the welcome screen for a min again so what i did i went to the startup window and i found out a lot of startups that i really dont need i disabled it after I disk cleanup I reboot and there it came back at 1 to 3 secs welcome screen.

We must always consider back to basic computing.

1. Update your hardware drivers for an specific OS

2. Update your OS

3. Clean your registry

4. Disable unnesessary startup of your OS

5. Disk Cleanup

And if you have no fears disable the system restore of vista coz it eats a lot of your harddrive capacity. For me i made a backup of the same image of my system drive (compress one) where i can boot anytime on it if ever my system crash but its been a months now and vista still running that fine and I never look back at good old XP.

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big_montana

I cannot believe the hate Vista is still getting! Most of Vista's problems on release were due to crappy and buggy driver released by two companies - Creative and Nvidia. I ended up dumping Creative entirely as they never released a stable driver and installed a Razor audio card which solved my sound problems. I also replaced my Nvidia graphics card with an ATI and will not be going back any time soon with either company. Also, most of what is being said about Vista, it's slow, not stable, boot times are slow, shuts down slow, no hardware/software support, etc. was also said about XP. The same XP that everyone now raves about being the best thing since sliced bread. It took a couple of service packs for XP to get to this point, and I feel Vista is there now. Also, Windows 7 is built using the Vista core, so the same problems should not plague it, as the hardware/software support should be much greater when it released than when either XP or Vista released. I swear you guys are whiners who do not like change of any kind. If, so, buy a Mac, and let Apple manage your life's for you than.

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QUINTIX256

Yeah, it is all due to hate. People should stop using Hate as an argument. The moment someone have some gripes against something it is reduced to hate. Your arguments regarding Creative and Nvidia is legit, but made to seem less legit as of starting with "the hate". Well, I like Vista, but I am a proud Hater, and I will hate all I want.

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Keith E. Whisman

Yeah everytime Apple releases an awsome program it requires the latest Apple OS so you have to go out and purchase their newest OS and that's why Apple has a new OS every week or so.

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Keith E. Whisman

I really hope there is only one version of this OS. Everything in Windows Vista Ultimate could be had with free stuff from around the web and in most cases with better functionality.

At least we don't have to contend with Microsoft Plus anymore. I mean the only useful versions of Plus were MS Plus 95 and 98 and that was it. Plus for XP both versions sucked. 

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Cache

Benchmarks of a pre-release OS are meaningless until MS submits the final program.  Right now it is 'Windows Lite'. meaning that it has none of the typical bloat that Windows has become infamous for.  Wait until they load up as many useless products as they can, and then benchmark the thing.

Until then, it's just a pretty thing and a waste of time.  

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ghot

I see no numbers  and no  3dmark 06 score...this is just more MS Bullsh*t...until I see some numbers..this article means nothing...guess I'll head over to Tom's and see if THEY have numbers.

well I found some more words....someone has some splainin to do.....

 In a nutshell, Windows 7 M3 is a virtual twin of Vista when it comes to
performance. The few minor variations I observed during comparative
testing are easily explained away by slight tweaks to the kernel (such
as the aforementioned MDAC changes); they certainly don't indicate a
significant performance overhaul. More important, these variations pale
in comparison with the 40 percent gap in performance I've observed
between Vista and Windows XP SP3. From a raw throughput perspective,
Windows 7 promises to perform as poorly as its predecessor. "Pre-beta"
notwithstanding, the reality is that any hope for closing of the
performance gap with Windows XP is unlikely to materialize in Windows
7.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/11/10/46TC-windows-7_3.html

 

 

 

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QUINTIX256

So of course it is going to perform similarly. M3 should be used to judge the shell, not the kernel.

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nekollx

I don't know where all the Vista hate is coming from, Vista has been nothing but good to me. And if it does have some issues i deal with them, since 64 Bit OS on the PC front are new teritory theirs bound to be some teathing pains.

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QUINTIX256

Vista feels less responsive then the previous operation systems, especially on low end sub-$700 systems. There seems to be a quarter secound delay between a click and an action when interacting with the shell... Wait a moment... where did that thought come from? My Vista seems to be spiffy.

I guess the primary thing is the reoganization of the shell for those used to XP. Few realize that the "Start Search" is also a command line, removing the need for "Start-Run", which is why that menu option is burried. Few also realize that they can now do file type filtering in the explorer shell even withoud the index service by typing in *.(filetype) like you would in search. Or that the Start Menu is readily indexed, and you can type in the first three letters of your favorate app instead of digging for it. Or that the start menu has been reoganized so that the executable shortcuts are directly under the "all programs" instead of burried under "/company/only program you purchased from that company" allong with the readme and uninstall and "untilities". Or Or Or...

Well, it has been my impression that novice users who are used to XP largely don't like Vista

Also, please don't reduce an argument to simple hate.

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yogurt80

I have a new hp notebook with a 2.5ghz dual core AMD, and for the most part, I love it.  My only complaints are this- it takes far too long to boot, and when I batch edit in Photo Premium or Photoshop, if I have more than 5 photos open at once, it completely locks up on me.  I have to completely hard- restart my computer.  This is a 64bit running 4 gigs of RAM.  My home computer which is a 2ghz amd 64x2 running 32bit xp and 2 gigs of RAM handles the load much better.  Never had it bog down like tht, and it's a couple years old.  Runs Photoshop cs4 like a champ.  The other thingis that if I touch the hp quick play buttons on any window other that the desktop screen, it freezes on me.  This means if I'm watching a DVD or streaming content, and hit the volume key, I'm screwed.  It hangs up.  This i think is more just a compatibility issue between Vista and HP, though.

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Five Rabbits

Unless I'm reading things wrong Vista RTM seems to come in second (to win 7) on everything, and first in CINEBENCH.  Where is Vista SP1 blowing the doors off RTM?

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AndyYankee17

alright, I call conspiracy, MS intentionally released an OS with mixed opinions so then when the new one comes put, 7 it will much better to everyone than the previous one and sell better

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Devo85x

It may be faster but I want to know if it is more stable... ether way, im waiting until at least SP1 to upgrade to Windows 7 (from vista)

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QUINTIX256

I installed Vista Business on my previous laptop which had a Geforce Go 7400. It was advertised as vista compatible, but there was an odd behavior from the graphics driver when I opened and closed the lid. It said that the graphics device stopped and had to be reset. It seemed as if, to save power, my laptop actually shut off the discrete graphics entirely. Given what I read of how the beta of Vista handled early video drivers, and what I heard about Vista in terms of its WDM and virtualization, I wonder if it is possible to hot-swap a video card in Vista.

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Vano

I don't believe in such benchmarks simply because W7 is pre-alpha version, with no garbage which will be added to the final release. Just like Vista - it was fast when it was in alpha stage, then later, as more garbage MS added, as slower it become.

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I Jedi

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Although Windows 7 isn't complete and they're still adding tons of crap to it. In general, though, there won't be tons upon tons of add-ons that you've seen with Windows XP and Windows Vista. Instead, Microsoft is planning to launch a site for Windows 7 in which you can download add-on applications, like their email client, etc, etc, rather than include it in the installation portion of Windows 7. Now rather or not the CD for Windows 7 will contain these add-ons for people whom do not have the Internet, or just simply wish to add some of the add-ons, I don't know.

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Vano

However, do I need remind you about Vista Ultimate addons? How many MS released in 2 years? - 3? 4? and haw many of them were actually worth paying $100-200 extra for?

I would not hold my breath when it comes to MS promises...But I do hope W7 will be better then Vista.

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QUINTIX256

Also, there is no correlation between the number of executables on the harddisk and the performance of a particular app. If you don't believe me, simply make thousands of copies of your favorite text editor and see if that has any effect. In fact, given modern pre-emptive multithreaded kernels and multicore cpus, background apps/deamons should have little to no effect (other than occupying memory). In fact, the number of active threads at any given moment should have little to no effect, depending on what (i/o operations) the threads are doing.

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s3th

Finally a proven OS that will be better, and its not toally of the beaten path. But before Vista came out everyone was happy and excited and was like "It's going to be amazing!", Then look what happened...

Anyway this seems to be reasonable though and the test's were equal, so if anything It can't be worse than that piece of shit they dare to call an Operating System.

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