Hong Kong Residents Offered Gigabit Internet for $26 a Month

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TenzoMonk

Laughable how many ppl think HongKong = China.  That, with all the "intelligent" political comments... it's no wonder the government has most of "us" fooled.   Ahhh... Politics... corrputing the minds of intelligent men for 1000's of years!

PS - Repubes and Dumbocrats don't care about you ;)

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bling581

One thing that really stumps me is how the ISP monopolies have been allowed to happen and exist for so long. I live in a highly populated area and there's 2 whole ISP's to choose from, AT&T and Time Warner. A true monopoly would be only one company but even with two there's little competition. I pay $52 a month for 7mbps connection. Just imagine if Net Neutrality is ever defeated and the IPS's are allowed to put in tiered plans with a data cap. We'll all be paying through the nose.

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Gumby

I am an American, but I live and work in Germany.  Here it is very common to have a 50mb DSL connection or a 100mb cable connection at very affordable rates.  The 100mb cable costs 39 Euros/month.  To me, the difference seems to be competition.  There are at least three major DSL providers everywhere I have lived in Germany.  Most places in the USA, there is DSL from a Baby-Bell or Cable from whoever has the local monopoly.  If you want more speed, at a reasonable cost, you will need more competition.  Otherwise there is nothing motivating the ISPs to improve their infrastructure.

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Markitzero

So True

Were I live it is a rural area and the only landline provider in my area is Verizon and that had limited slots on dsl before Oct09 but in oct all the slots filled and when I moved were I am "Phelan, CA" there was no more DSL and all they could offer was Dial-up. Since there is no other provider like clearwire"WiMAX" or cable internet they don't see it profitable to upgrade and add more DSL or start laying there FiOS lines. I have talked to lots of people just at the grocery store alot of people want Broadband and can't get it because Verizon does not see it profitable. It has been 2 years and Verizon has not touched there switching station since Oct 09.

 

The Sprint 3G tower is slow were I am because there is so many people using it for home broadband like with the Service I have.

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chipmunkofdoom2

Most people don't really have a grasp on how far a dollar goes in China. Depending on which site you trust (it's hard to get accurate information out of a government like that of China's), Google will tell you the average Chinese family's income is $1,500 to $3,000 a month. In rural areas, it's closer to $300 - $500. We'll say you're at the top end of that figure and make $3000 annually.. that means you make about $250 monthly (BEFORE TAXES!!) and that "$26 Gigabit Internet" is 10% of your monthly salary. For a person who makes around $55,000 in the US, that's equivalent to almost $500 a month. That's no bargain.

My complaint with the telecos has never been the speed, it's been the cost. If you're willing to pay enough, you can get as much speed as you want. You can pay for a T3 line (or multiple lines) right to your home. If you really work with the cable/phone company, you can probably get a fiber line dropped right to your house and you could probably work out a contract with them to get close to Gigabit speeds. You'll be paying 2 arms and a leg for it though. That's per month.

Speed is nothing new. There are acceptable to blazing fast services all over these days. What would be GREAT news is affordably priced, fast internet. Until then, I don't want to hear about your $150+ a month FIOS or X-Finity. Lower your prices or you haven't done anything that spectacular.

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ymichaelx

Sorry to tell you chipmunk that Hong Kong is China but not really, so while your statement of $3000 US annual income for the average Chinese family is quite valid in the mainland proper, it does not however apply to the Special Administrative District that is Hong Kong.  The majority of residents in Hong Kong are foreign nationals working for companies that have offices in Hong Kong, and therefore are paid a wage comparative to their home countries.  I don't think you'll find anyone working for a big bank like HSBC making $3000 US annually.  It is more likely that their wage will be above the average family income in the US of $55,000 annually.  And that makes $26 US per month for 1 Gigabit Internet very cheap indeed.

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ymichaelx

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MrPC2010

lol... here in Quebec, for 28.95$/month you can only have 3mb/s with a 4go bandwith limit with the biggest ISP of the province... To get a decent speed and bandwith limit, it increase to 43$/month... Ridiculous.  The fastest available is at 120mb/s for 150$/month and a 210go bandwith limit.

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pendar

You can call it a Monopoly, Not much of choice when you only have cable and a dsl company to choose from. If it wasn't for Satellite TV we would still have crappy TV service. With so few companies competing they are to cheap to upgrade and even cap your bandwidth because there to cheap to add more nodes and they oversaturate them with to many people on one node. Welcome to Monopoly USA.

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bautrey

OK, thats it!!  I'm moving to Hong Kong!!!!

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aviaggio

But but but... we have FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY!!! Aren't they enough???

 

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ShyLinuxGuy

Not really...we have too many politicians with Little Man syndrome (typically the liberals) who take away our freedoms and democracies one by one.

Back OT: We aren't there yet because of 1) read statement above and 2) there's too much bureauacracy for it to happen.After finding out that there's paperwork raised to the power of 1e999, dealing with the FCC, the FTC, this and that, paying $15 million here, $200 million there--before even laying down the first line--companies scrap the idea, and I don't blame them. Our government won't allow it to happen (I admit, the Republicans do have some fault in this too...)

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hades_2100

Same process here in Canada. No competition = high prices = sucks.

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Carlidan

That's funny because it sure looks like it's republicans, aka conservatives who has this little man syndrome. Because if I'm not mistaken correctly, they  are passed the patriot act, protesting against mosques, denying civil unions for gay and lesbians, taking away collective bargining from employees. It sure sounds more like conservatives have this " Little Man" syndrome your talking about. 

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someuid

You are right, Carlidan.  The republicans are far more invovled in reducing individual's rights.  I find that frustrating because I am a republican and don't like what has happened to my party.  Its been taken over by ignorant loudmouths and overly greedy corporate types who have no care or concern for the humans they have built their empire on.

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Carlidan

It's sad because not all republicans are for corparate america but are for the american people but are too afraid to stand up against their party. :(

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Vella1tj

Most of the Patriot Act has Sunset, and it does not care about mosques or denying civil unions. It talks specifically about monitoring Americans (which I think is bullshit), please know your facts and don't just blatenly talk about something you heard on the news without researching. 

On a side not it's the greedy politicians and the smart business planning (cable companies know how to business) they have a contract that they can sell their services for whatever amount, and the US got in return cable lines ran accross america. It costs very little amount of money for your service, and from what I've heard they make in excess of 200% of some services especially with phone lines.

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Carlidan

Where did I ever say the patriot act denied civil unions or mosques. If you actually read what I wrote, I was just giving examples of what republicans are doing. They republicans use to be the people who actually believed in small government. But now believe in the wild west for corporate america. They just want to limit goverment so corporations can run amok. They are not working for the middle class as the potray themselves as to be. Republicans are now the christian conservatives party who want to push their morality to every american citizen. 

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RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS

Mitch Daniels, the Nazi from Indiana, exemplifies the Little Man syndrome. Fueling his need for power and authority by destroying the middle class, Daniels is currently vying for the Presidency.

 

Let's just call Republicans the "Greed is Good" party.

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Cleaver

Not sure how thats on topic, RUSENSITIVESWEETNESS, so I hereby invoke Godwin's Law. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law

 

By comparing Republicans to Nazis (I should point out, not all republicans are like that, so quit your generalizations) you have hereby failed this discussion.

 

OT: Internet that fast and at that price would be excellent to have. So there. 

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lunchbox73

Hmmm. Nazi. Really?

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GoldenMonkey

This is old, old news. It's been this price for years.

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franciscomedinav

Come on people !!! right now, at this moment, in this internet era, who regular user needs a 1gbps internet connection ???  To read emails ? To watch netflix movies or hulu or youtube ?? I can do that and more, with my wimax "4G"   5mbps connection, i pay 45 per month, unlimited data, from Clearwire; 

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Markitzero

Try being in a Area were there is only 3G EVDO for broadband other then Satellite. I can barely get over 200Kbps at night and 50-70Kbps during the day with a ping from 100-500.

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compguytracy

what a bunch of whiners, oooh boo hoo, my isp is slow. then turn off the damn computer, internet in not a right, it is a priviledge, geez, douchbags, get a life. a choice to forgo food for connectivity, that is addiction in the classic sense. rats used to forgo food for crack, til they died, hows the maze there chucky?

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DogPatch1149

How's the bridge there, trolly?

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Markitzero

lol were I live it is eaither Dial-up, 3G, or satellite internet. I am on 3G because I need Realtime fuction and alot of times i am under 100Kbps alot of times because of so many people on it.

 

I live in a Rural area in California

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Samjabr

The US did in fact create the internet.  Search for Arpanet on Google to become more educated.

CERN created Hyper text transfer protocol

Webbers created the WWW.

 

Essentially, if you are talking about a bunch of computers interconnected together across a large distance you are talking about the U.S. creation.  It was developed between the military and universities to enable communication in case a war disabled our traditional communication systems.

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Nate.Gil

Who's Webbers?

 

The World Wide Web was invented by Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailliau in 1990.

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Blaze589

Relative to how much the Chinese get paid it's a lot of money. I doubt that a lot of people can afford it.

http://www.worldsalaries.org/china.shtml

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Tenhawk

It's Hong Kong, dude, not Mainland China. Remember, the standard of living there was established by the british, and it's kept it's strongly capitalist roots. It has it's own entry on the site you referenced, specifically because the salarys are so different.

http://www.worldsalaries.org/hongkong.shtml

 

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Blaze589

My ignorance strikes again! Thanks for pointing that out.

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someuid

Thank you for pointing that out Tenhawk.

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zodi

Our local cable provider is rolling out 1Gbps here in Calgary, AB Canada.  They already have 150Mbps service for a nice wallet draining $150 a month.

 

The catch with 1Gbps is only to new e-communities with Fiber to Premises (fiber optics to your house panel).  For S***s and giggles I checked out the communities where they are testing it.

 

Average starting price for a house is 1.7million.  Guess they can afford it!

Currently on 15Mbps for $50 a month.

 

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Eoraptor

while I'm sutre there's something to be said about hong kong being a tightly packed, urban area where you don't have to span long distances or do a lot of trenching...

We Americans in the know KNOW that we're continually being shafted. I'm typing this on a 256k DSL connection because the ISPs in america are under no impetus to build out their infrastructure, no it;'s far cheaper to instigate cripping bandwidth caps and charge outrageous overages and then sit on the money or hand it out to stock holders.

why is it again that socialism and state-run competition is a bad thing again?

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fullur

Because what we have IS state-run competition. Exclusive right-of-way is something the government grants. Our current system is the worst of both worlds. We have neither free enterprise nor government supported enterprise.

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someuid

We do not have state run competition.  We have regional monopolies handed out by the government and little oversight to ensure competitors are given any kind of fair access.

If we have state-run competition, the federal government would separate the owners of the cable/fiber from the service providers.  The owners of the cable/fiber woudl be heavily regulated in regards to contract with service providers, costs they charge, and how much their network was built out.

We have the exact opposite.  The cable company owns their cable and provide their service.  The telephone company owns their cable and the service, and are not closely watched to ensure competitors have access.

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whathuhitwasntme

3mb down here

so 6 is a dream!

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whathuhitwasntme

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Hamburger

The US invents the internet but is getting smoked by other countries.  Hell some people still don't have decent internet speeds nor performance.. some still only have the option of DIALUP or RF or even worse.. satellite..  my ISP only offers up to 6mb. I DREAM of 50mb... much less 1GB!!!

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zNelson24

While the U.S. may have created the internet, corporate interests and the government's ignorance and lack of adaptation to this new information age has drastically hindered innvoation and ability to bring such speeds stateside.

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blimpboy3

the us did not invent the internet. it was created by the people controlling the LRC a few decades ago in europe

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TheZomb

Actually, the US invented the internet, it was called ARPAnet at the time before it was renamed, CERN was just the first non military users of the internet. Might want to read up on the complete history before you go correcting people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet

 

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Phantom-e

You are correct!

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Brock Kane

Hey it's all about money here in the great old USA! Greed and power overcomes any pride for Internet speed here. Hell, we invented the Internet, yet our broadband speeds are 33rd on the list of countries that offer broadband. 33rd!

Why should we have the speeds of Hong Kong here in the USA, the ISP's have fat wallets from 16 meg speeds for $60 a month! Why should the ISP's give a rats ass! They have all the money they want by gouging our wallets thin by offering a couple of more megs per year for another 10 fricking dollars!

But, I'm not bitter, no no. I love this greedy ass country we live in. It's great! Now let's see if I have enough money for groceries this week after paying my cable bill!

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acidic

money dont rule all countries like it does here in the US. i remember paying 70/month for 2mb cable as soon as it was available in my area. with more and more things becoming streaming hd, we need faster and faster internet to take advantage of it. but, no one is making our speeds any faster

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whathuhitwasntme

yeah 1gbs but when you are censored and the network gets shut off by your government because they fear the citizens, what good does it do you to have it?

 

would be great to have here in the states but like you said, it wont happen anytime soon until they find a way to make you pay out the ears for it

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lordmidnight

That's mainland China, not Hong Kong. When Google had its row with Beijing, they just redirected traffic from google.cn (mainland China, and censored by the government) to google.com.hk (Hong Kong, uncensored). This allowed people in mainland China uncensored access to Google search results. That didn't sit well with the Chinese censors, so the threatened to shut down google.cn. That would have blocked the citizens of mainland China from getting uncensored search results, but Hong Kong would have remained unaffected. They know they've already lost those people; they were under British rule for too long.

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