Helm's Deep Expansion for Lord of the Rings Online Pushes Level Cap to 95

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Jeffredo

Gotta a lifetime subscription back in 2007. Not billing worries. Talk about getting my money's worth - six years (and counting) of playing whenever I want for $199.

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Upyourbucket

Its nice to see you giving LOTRO some love Paul. It is a pretty darn good free to play game. If anyone has some free time to take take up, give LOTRO a try.

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wumpus

More like *lots* of time to take up, it is an MMO after all. You can easily play for free up to about level 30 (probably 34 or so you will either have to reach into your "awarded turbine points" to advance or cough up some cash). The game gets steadily more frustrating as long as you haven't coughed up any cash (especially that $15 for one month of VIP).

Trying the various classes and paths to level ~33 could easily eat up a few months. Don't be surprised if you turn around and start paying for it. HINTS:

This is a pretty good deal for LOTRO, but its said to be overdue to go on sale so you can easily wait till you're level 30 or so: http://www.impulsedriven.com/products/ESD-IMP-W2777 (basically this includes a ton of important quests (including Moria) and 2000 TP for $20 (generally a good price even without all the included quests).

One month of VIP is easily the best deal in LOTRO. You might want to buy a ~$15 visa gift card or something to avoid repeat billing (if you cancel within a too short a time you never get to play the thing, if you cancel too late you get billed another month). One month of VIP gives you a whole bunch of perks to characters played within the month of VIP, and should be considered before ever buying Turbine Points.

Everything I needed to know about real money and LOTRO: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?492268-How-to-maximize-your-return-on-investment&highlight= (note that much of the commentary fixes errors in the long original posts. Quite long, but much cheaper than buying LOTRO without reading it.

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sotoa

I see Turbine as one of the top notch companies out there. Many games have had some kind of billing issue one time or another. But Turbine is still a great company.

Love LOTRO though! Helm's Deep.... oooooohhhh!

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wumpus

Turbine does make great games, but mostly that was before Warner bought them. I played DDO for years and have had fun in LOTRO (bogged down lately due to my own silliness). Anyone thinking about trying the Neverwinter MMO should probably at least check out DDO as well. I'd recommend either holding off DDO before the next expansion (in a few months?) or sneaking in quick for a taste of the game in case the expansion kills it (the last expansion left the code base pretty much a wreck. Too many temp developers allowed to change *anything* *anywhere* at will. Who knows if it can survive another go around).

The thing about the billing fiasco is that it comes within days of Turbine making a change that infuriated customers by significantly weakening the security of customer's credit card information. We still don't know if it was a bug at Turbine that caused them to repeatedly bill customers or they handed over a bunch of accounts and this is gold farmer spam (likely considering they were just exposing that information to less secure servers). You can understand just how happy that made the DDO community.

Its a company that is in the process of erroneously maxing out customer credit cards. Do business with them at your own peril. A internet-friendly gift card would be wise.

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wumpus

Hilarious. You should see the billing hack/disaster/whatever that is happening over at Warner/Turbine's other f2p MMO: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Billing over and over for pay2win credits, repeat billing on other things until credit cards are maxed. Timing of this attack is likely due to the widely protested scheme where they migrated all billing information over to a forum that never required security. Management just had to follow their braindead plans and now customers are having their credit cards hammered. Yes, these are the same guys who couldn't be bothered to maintain the ddo.com domain. Just hand over your money and trust them.

The games themselves aren't that bad. But if you have to send money to these clowns, make sure you limit what they can take by some sort of gift card or something.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/ddo/news/turbine-ddo-billing-issue-overcharges-some-players

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Upyourbucket

That's why I take advantage of the free to play option. Rather than be caught up in monthly billing.

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wumpus

While they got rid of the "turbine cards" that were supposed to be in Walmart and Target, I assume you can still do same thing with the right visa gift card. If you play until a "double bonus point sale" comes along, you can likely keep on chugging all year on roughly a $60 stake.

Hints for new DDO players. Avoid the pre-built "paths", you only get one free chance to rebuild a DDO character and then it is $10 a pop. Copy (best to copy exactly, although they are increasingly out of date) from here:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232660

[note to D&D 3.x players, DDO has evolved into its own set of rules and you are unlikely to see upper levels unless you have a constitution of at least 14 and take the toughness feat. If that seems odd than just follow one of the linked builds verbatim.]

** not responsible for wasted time/money if the already creaky codebase is completely destroyed by the upcoming expansion and the servers are turned off.

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