Guild Pulverizes All Wrath of The Lich King Raid Content in Three Days
Posted 11/17/08 at 10:50:28 PM by Nathan Grayson
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Talk about a hollow victory. You and your epic-clad, raid-running buddies wait more than a year for World of Warcraft's jam-packed new expansion, only to be within /spitting distance of its final raid bosses' lifeless bodies after a mere three days of playtime. Vacation's over, team. Back to real life.
Really, it makes us wonder why Blizzard decided to go with the bowling-ball-in-front-of-a-row-of-dominoes method when structuring its latest time-twister -- a question echoed by the guild that did the deed, TwentyFifthNovember:
"We are proud to declare that all WOTLK PVE raid content has now been cleared. This is both a moment of triumph and a cause for concern. The question in all our minds right now is if we could do this, how soon until the rest of the top guilds in the world clear all the raid content that WOTLK has to offer?"
"Did Blizzard miscalculate in the tuning of these encounters? Or is this Blizzard folding under the weight of a large casual player base that demands to be on equal footing with end-game raiders?"
Of course, this guild probably perforated WoW's new batch of glorified piñatas during the WoTLK beta, so odds are, they already knew the encounters inside-and-out before they even got their mitts on a retail copy of the game. Regardless though, that only means other guilds have the tools to pull off a similar thrashing, so we foresee a fairly large 24/7 raid converging on Blizzard's inbox in the near future.
However, before such "fans" sing "wah, wah, wah" all the way to Blizzard, we'd just like to remind them that other games do exist -- as do other, non-virtual worlds. So, you know, do something wholesome. Oh, and those strange people wandering around your house? That's your family. Enjoy.
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Submitted by dragnarr on Sat, 12/13/2008 - 1:18pm
I'm reading the same thing over and over again, and I finally need to say something. Warcraft is a video game, and as in any other video game, you need to be good, or at least decent, to get the best gear. End of the matter.
Now, I will say that in original WoW, some of the raids were, admittedly, too difficult to enjoy. I raided heavily, was in a quality guild, and was still stumped. Razoregore was damn near impossible, and I've never seen Naxx or AQ40. In that sense, Blizzard did need to tone it down some.
However, that doesn't mean make everything so easy that anyone not asleep can do it. Every 10 man in WotLK is puggable already. Something is wrong there. I'm not saying that it needs to be so hard only the top 5% see it, but it needs to be a challenge. Pugging after 3 weeks is not fun. Personally, I think Kara was a good balance. It was difficult to progress through from scratch, but after a while, with nerfs and badge gear upgrades it became puggable. But it wasn't so easy that it was do-able with level 60 epics and cleared in a week. And badge and arena gear were so accessable, everyone who played at all has a good set of t5/6 quality items going in.
On a second note, to all those people declaring sit back and enjoy the leveling. I, and many others, HATE leveling. I bought the original WoW for one reason, to raid. I wanted to burn through as fast as I could and enjoy and end game challenge. If you enjoy leveling, great. But don't complain when Blizzard puts challenging content out there that you can't do. Maybe raiding is not for you. But don't ruin it for the people that enjoy the raid challenge. As far as PvP goes, WoW is so off-kilter that I don't even bother anymore. I bought WAR for my PvP fix, and it does a far better job.
I play WoW to raid. Not to level, not to craft, not to enjoy the scrolling quest text. And I believe a fair few others feel the same way. Unless Blizzard picks up the ball again, and makes raiding a challenge, I'll be done for good next content patch. (And I did quit during TBC when they nerfed everything and I got tired with the PuG everything. I came back to give WoTLK a shot - so all you "stop paying nay-sayers" are shot down.) I'm not saying give the stick to all other play-styles, but at least acknowledge that there exists a player base that wants a challenging PvE environment. Old school BWL, AQ40, and Nax were tough, but the teamwork and skill required to do it was what made the game fun. What is not fun is having your any class tank gather up the whole heroic instance and AoE it down.
Submitted by Dewflop on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 9:40am
You guys are amazingly negative to one of the most popular games out there today. Look at the other article posted today, the Top 20 Best-sellers. Three of those are World of Warcraft related, the original was released in 2004, four years later and it's still part of the Top 20? That's insane!
So TwentyFifthNovember cleared all available content within three days of release, big deal. They are professional gamers, I would be disappointed if they couldn't clear it. They did not go about things the way the average normal player would go about them either. Look at their website, the timestamps on those pictures are back to back to back, of course that might just reflect when they got posted to the site, but I'm willing to bet those are actual times the bosses were downed. They did it, but they did it for the glory of being first, not for the fun of the game.
It's one thing to joke about the gaming community every now and then, but you guys make it seem like you have something against WoW in particular every time you write an article about it. But, I'm okay with you hating the game as long as it keeps you out of my queue to get on the server.
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Submitted by Azruelli on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 8:43am
You also neglected that TwentyFifthNovember is paid to play the game, a rather nice detail to leave out since you just wanted to harp on them, apparently.
As for whether or not the raiding content is too easy, I believe blizzard is going to be releasing heroic raids (If they haven't already, I still haven't gotten a copy of it myself.) for those who want a challenge. The hardcores get a real challenge and the casuals get to have more fun raiding without feeling stressed by the annoying push of consistient progress. Go blizzard.
Submitted by cap737 on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 7:27am
Good choice on the pic! That's what I imagine people that spend numerous hours on WoW.
Submitted by Spiffy on Mon, 11/17/2008 - 9:01pm
I think Blizzard, shockingly enough, would like to see more than 5% of their playerbase experience the content they spend years developing.
From hell's heart, I stab at thee.
Submitted by Spider-Mom on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 4:14am
because the very second it becomes that easy they will LOSE the 5% your talking about. If more people wanted to do it they would. If more poeple could, fewer would want to.
But for real. WoW has been the kiddie game for kiddies with no skill and an astound eight entire classes since it launched. Trivial raid content is nothing to be taken back by in a game thats trivial at every thign else. The game is simplistic and stupid.
Oh wow, I got to level 80. How cool, now everyone knows that I spent at least 4 days playing.
I think it takes longer to get to max level in CoD that it does WoW.
Submitted by Azruelli on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 8:58am
If the casual fanbase is what's going to keep them going long term, why would you want to spend a year just to cater to the hardcore one more time?
Besides, there's far more to do among leveling, especially once you hit the level cap, so if your only argument is to compare the ease of reaching the level cap to the now-nicely-breeze-able raiding, you're kind of just kicking past everything else and trying to reach the least relevant comparison. Leveling does not =/= the difficulty of raiding, nor does anyone but your clique of 5-nights-a-week raiding really care. Go find a different game if it's so bad.
Submitted by Spider-Mom on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 2:00pm
su you casual wanker wanna-be. It always easy to spot the kids who couldnt get into a real guild on the interent. And besides, i dont even play this game. Everything you said is dumb AND wrong. So please chek your guild envy before spouting this digital vomit all over the internet.
Submitted by Azruelli on Wed, 11/19/2008 - 8:16am
So you're pissed that they're not catering to the hardcore community even though you don't play the game?
Also, if I REALLY wanted to get into a hardcore five-nights-a-week raiding guild, I wouldn't have stayed in my own for a year and a half. Before you start spewing crap, you should at least manage to get some facts to back it up.
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