Google Demonstrates Limits of "Open Source" for Android



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I'm gonna chime in here a bit regarding Google's Apps and Android.

From what I can determine here, Google is asking the modder to not distribute their proprietary applications that are used to communicate with their services as it's Google's own code, and thus it's not open the public. Hence the cease and desist order regarding the bundling of Google Apps. Google does have a number of open APIs that allow third party developers to tie in their own software to Google's services, and that's the point, why provide APIs when you could use Google's own code, if it were open sourced, and tweak it a bit? It would be a lot easier for developers, yes, but also would kill a lot of innovation and motivation on both ends as well.

Regarding Android, Google did Open-Source the OS itself, thus allowing everyone access to its guts and workings. and allowing modders to do something. Google did say that it supports the work of modders, it's just asking them not redistribute it's Apps suite, while free, is entirely within it's legal scope as a software developer to do so.  

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 Cyanogen Mod will continue bare bones. You can still put the Google apps. on there, but it'll be a bit more complicated. Although, if you're willing to root your phone and do geeky shit, then this should only look to be more fun.



This story has 2 possible arguments, both of which i agree with to extents. Being an Open Source OS, Android and everything that functions in it can technically be called Open Source, because most open source operating systems do not use closed source applications, however they could, but if they're built specifically for the operating system, then they technically took a closed source idea and made an open source app from it. All Cyanogen is doing is taking the base OS, giving it root, some minor tweaks, and then releasing. What I would do in google's case, is actually hire Cyanogen, and release 2 forms of the android OS. If Linux was restricted to Red Hat kernel, then the Debian kernel wouldn't have lasted long enough to form the most popular version of linux, especially among beginners. (Ubuntu) To break this down further, Cyanogen was making an altered version of the OS and letting people use it at will, but on the specific phones only. So really, the apps are staying but it's like those who take windows and tweak it to work faster. Let's face it, the HTC Android phones are a bit slow a times, but it's fixable with either the right app, or with flashing the ROM for Cyanogen's mod, which is just that, a Mod, short for Modification. A modification takes the base of everything and improves or alters for a specific user, or group of user's needs, or to fix an issue. 

Other end of this argument is that Google did make some of it closed source, however then they should say mostly open source. I think they should have let it go or hired Cyanogen.

I hope Cyanogen can cut a deal with google and improve the situation so he's not left with a base os. I honestly think Google should feature a backup system for everyone's android phones, somewhat like computers coming with os discs, some little flash drive that has the factory Android os and when you boot with it, you get an option to flash the ROM to bring it back to factory. A lot of people who have bricked phones are those who think that Cyanogen's mod was perfectly legal and then to not have a way to restore the operating system. This is a touchy subject considering the Open Source statement, however Google is a big enough company that if anybody can make it happen in thir favor, they can.

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I like the idea of google having some sort of backup for the proprietary apps. That seems like a fair way to handle things. And to ensure that the apps are going on the phones that they were meant to, the apps can be d/l from the cell phone company since "business deals" are already in place.



Unless they provide a way to distribute software through other means, Market shouldn't be only obtainable through a Google device.

I've looked at SlideMe, but I can't get apps I've already paid for from there.

Too much to ask that the Android Market be downloadable as a separate component?


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 I'm gonna side with Google here.

Google gives us a metric fucton of stuff free and open so i can't fault them for keeping a few closed


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