Gizmodo Banned from WWDC Keynote

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imagonex

I'll repeat it: Gizmodo is better off not going to WWDC. There's nothing outstanding to see at WWDC. Nothing but mediocrity wrapped in shiny marketing. For me, the main point of the article is about Gizmodo being given the brush off. As far as the hardware goes...well...hands down a Windows OS based PC will beat by a wide and pulverizing margin any OSX OS based PC.

Any OSX PC is a closed proprietary system. Heck, even take their Mac Pro Xeons. The Xeons they stick in them have no heat spreader. So, if you went to the PC parts shop, ordered some OEM Xeons, well, you'll have a difficult time properly fitting the heatsinks back on in that overpriced Mac Pro Xeon PC.

Yeah, I repeatedly use the acronym PC for any OSX based machine. Why? because that's all it is, just another PC.

And, if I want to build a workstation, which I do, I'll get a Supermicro X8DA6 or X8DA3 motherboard, buy a real Quadro card with real drivers, not some half baked generic driver with 2 year old hardware in a crippled proprietary system. 

If I'd go with a brandname Xeon workstation, I'd go with an HP Z800, a DELL T7500 or a Lenovo Thinkstation over any Xeon Mac Pro any day. Better, faster, stronger and better bang for the buck, oh, and way better professional grade tech support than anything the Fruit PC Company offers.

Lastly, MaximumPC readers, build their own rigs, they know their hardware, their OS, and just about everything else there is to know. In Fruitland it's a whole different story.

Sorry, facts are facts.   

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IFLATLINEI

Look guys and gals. Its time to stop trying to rationalize your love for Apple products by saying they are more secure, easier to use, blah blah blah. Every one of you who posts that crap makes yourselves look stupid. At one time many of those arguements  may have made sense. This is no longer the case. Just simple state that you like their products and we can move on. I can respect an Apple user who says this instead of coming up with these wild stories and defenses that simply dont hold true anymore.

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imagonex

P.C. users have no imagination? A Mac is a Personal Computer (ie. a P.C.).

Yes. I agree...P.C. users have no imagination and apparently little intellect to fully comprehend what others have posted.

 

 

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M-ManLA

Agreed!

 

Electronically charged

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M-ManLA

Steve Jobs is going over the deep end further and further everyday. 

 

Electronically charged

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imagonex

Missing WWDC is like crying over spilt milk.

Like...what?! They're going to introduce video cards that have been available for Windows OS based PC's for the past 12 month?! NO! Wait! I know! They're going to introduce the most mediocre hardware and make it sound like it's the best thing since slice bread?! No, let me guess, they're going to charge $30 to $150 for service pack? 

Yawn. 

Honestly, they're doing Gizmodo a favor. 

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DJSPIN80

" No, let me guess, they're going to charge $30 to $150 for service pack? "

 As  opposed to the $300 that Microsoft charges for theirs? Vista to 7 was pretty much a service pack, with a new UI.  Wow.

 "They're going to introduce the most mediocre hardware and make it sound like it's the best thing since slice bread?!"

Like what? Selling dual quad core Xeon's to the public?  Actually having an OS that's optimized for the hardware it runs on?  I find it egregious that Windows users complain about the Mac's sultry (hardly, IMO) hardware when Windows and its software takes twice the amount of hardware to run.  Macs are simple to use and easy to maintain, unlike its Windows counterpart.  

 

Yawn.

 

Honestly, PC users have no imagination. 

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Tekzel

"As  opposed to the $300 that Microsoft charges for theirs? Vista to 7
was pretty much a service pack, with a new UI.  Wow."

The sheer magnitude of the ignorance embedded in this statement astounds me.  Could you truly be stunted enough to think Windows 7 is merely a "service pack" to Vista? Or, are you just doing what Mac users often do, and making up wild exaggerations to support the myth that your OS of choice is in any way superior to Windows? I am going to go with the latter.

"Actually
having an OS that's optimized for the hardware it runs on?  I find it
egregious that Windows users complain about the Mac's sultry (hardly,
IMO) hardware when Windows and its software takes twice the amount of
hardware to run."

This one made me chuckle. Mostly because I'm running Windows 7 on my Netbook, and it runs like a champ. This means that even your underpowered Mac could run it! 

"Macs are simple to use and easy to maintain, unlike
its Windows counterpart."

I guess simpletons need to be hand-held. Say, did you guys ever get a second mouse button yet? I know, using TWO fingers on your mouse at once would strain your little brains, but trust me, once you get used to it you will love it.

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You know users... Buncha bitchy little girls.

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M-ManLA

PCs are Macs first off. 

 

Second, Windows 7 uses a slightly different kernal than Vista. 

 

Third, Snow Leopard is not a fast as they say. I work on it in the studios, and there is no real speed difference. And if you would Remember, Windows was the first one to have a 64bit OS, the people was just slow to adapt it and/or don't really benifit from it. 

 

Lastly, Macs Pros, their Main Workstation, has only four PCIe's and one has to be taken for the GPU, leaving only three to play with. No room for a lot of Tesla cards for Video and GP computing, and only a few cards for Pro Tools HD. 

 

All and all, Macs are just another machine to play with. 

 

Electronically charged

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Caboose

 Lets take a look at some hardware price differences.

 The currently available ATI Radeon HD 4870 is being sold on apple.com for $349.00 usd. The same cardis being sold on NewEgg.com for between $154.99 and $170.99. Thats a markup of $194.01 - $178.01. Oh ya, that's fair.

The GeForce GT120 on apple.com is $149.99. You can't find it on Newegg.com at all, the closest match is the GeForce GT220-240 which ranges in price from a whopping  $69.99 to $74.99.

Heck the Quadro FX4800 for Mac that they're selling is $200 MORE than the exact same card on NewEgg.com.

They sell RAM for twice as much as you can get other places. And that's at the low end of the scale.

Just from this example, Apple sells old hardware for a huge amount over everywhere else. And don't give me this crap that it's "Optimized for Mac" or "BUT IT'S APPLE CERTIFIED! DUURRRR...." because that's a load of garbage.

I guarentee you, that if you were to ask an Apple tech or sales rep, if you could buy a normal hard drive from any computer store for your Mac, if it'll work, they'll tell you no. It won't work, it's not optimized for your Mac whatever and it'll void your warranty!

 

 "As  opposed to the $300 that Microsoft charges for theirs? Vista to 7
was pretty much a service pack, with a new UI.  Wow.
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And how much did you pay to go from Leopard to Snow Leopard? A few minor tweaks here, a couple little addon's here. Going from Leopard to Snow Leopard for example, is a service pack. And you get charged for them. Windows Vista was launched about 5-6 years ago, and you know what, the changes between Vista and 7 were enough to warrant an entire new OS and not a service pack.

Frankly, I'd say the million and one versions of iPod, and the new muntant iMaxiPad are the yawn.

 

I'm amazed at how much Mac users love taking it up the rear!

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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Bluntknife

Blah, Blah, Blah

Typical Mac vs PC debate.

But I have to say. I love claims made without any real basis.

So here are some numbers for you to see.

 http://themacgamer.com/2010/05/28/half-life-2-performance-mac-vs-pc/ 

 

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armada439

 "As  opposed to the $300 that Microsoft charges for theirs? Vista to 7
was pretty much a service pack, with a new UI.  Wow."

Microsoft doesn't come out with a new Windows every 18mo does it?  And as far as I know, nobody makes you buy the $300 retail copy of Ultimate... most make do with the $100 Premium version.

"Like what? Selling dual quad core Xeon's to the public?  Actually having
an OS that's optimized for the hardware it runs on?  I find it
egregious that Windows users complain about the Mac's sultry (hardly,
IMO) hardware when Windows and its software takes twice the amount of
hardware to run.  Macs are simple to use and easy to maintain, unlike
its Windows counterpart."

 You can have dual quad-core Xeons in PC's...you can have dual hex-core CPUs if you want.  And yes, an OS thats optimized for its hardware, all 3 different configurations that Apple allows you to have.  And just so you know, OSX runs like hell on my MacBook while Bootcamped Windows 7 Ultimate runs like a dream on it.

"Yawn."

Facepalm. 

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MdX MaxX

All I can say is this: That's not fair.

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CentiZen

How is it not fair? Gizmodo bought stolen street dated property, released it to the world without so much as a qualm and then refused to give back the prototype untill Apple sued them for it. Now, I hate the face that I'm siding with Apple right now, but I'd say they are damn well in their rights to tell Gizmodo to bugger off after all the headaches and problems they have caused them.   

SHEILA: AMD X4 965 3.2GHZ ; 4 GB G.SKILL GAMING RAM ; RADEON HD 5770 1GB

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Caboose

 If you find $10 on the ground that someone lost, did you steal it? Unless the guy that sold it to Gizmodo actually swiped the iPhone, I don't see how there was any theft involved. And a lot of the times if you take something like that to the cops, they'll ask you if you need a new phone, can't post a 'Lost and Found' online, because of the number of liers and cheaters out there.

And you know, with Apple's current track record of dealing with customers, I'm sure if the guy had contacted Apple about it, a normal CSR wouldn't have done anything (they're freaking clueless), and if he contacted Apple Corporate, I'm sure they'd try and pin a theft charge on him too!

 

-= I don't want to be dead, I want to be alive! Or... a cowboy! =-

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